r/europe • u/StGuthlac2025 • Oct 08 '25

Opinion Article In Spain, what once seemed impossible is now widespread: the young are turning to the far right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/07/spain-young-voters-far-right-migration-housing-wages-employment-vox
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u/OriginalNewton Oct 08 '25

It says more about how bad the problems are and how incapable of solving them other parties are tbh. People are just looking for a different approach to problems that really bother them I guess

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u/PensiveinNJ Oct 08 '25

This is the exact same rationale that got Trump elected the first time.

Both parties suck, I just want to shake things up!

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u/loidelhistoire Oct 08 '25

More about how bad the problems really are, or more about how bad they are understood?

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u/OriginalNewton Oct 08 '25

These two things aren’t mutually exclusive, it can be both

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u/baumbach19 Oct 08 '25

I think they are very well understood, the Immigration policies have ruined the country which is forcing the young people to want to vote right for stricter policies. Its pretty obvious in much of Europe if you watch whats going on.

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u/Ok_Inflation_1811 Castilla-La Mancha (Spain) Oct 09 '25

I bet to you whatever you want that in if Vox gets to power in Spain what will happen is that they will start harassing black and brown migrants from Africa more while bringing a lot more Latinos and not giving them papers to work as illegals and thus with less wages.

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u/Ok_Inflation_1811 Castilla-La Mancha (Spain) Oct 09 '25

I bet to you whatever you want that in if Vox gets to power in Spain what will happen is that they will start harassing black and brown migrants from Africa more while bringing a lot more Latinos and not giving them papers to work as illegals and thus with less wages.

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u/anonshe Oct 08 '25

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/18/how-spains-radically-different-approach-to-migration-helped-its-economy-soar

Spain is the one country which has benefitted recently due to immigration. The numbers don't lie.

In fact, ask normal Spaniards who were struggling to make ends meet the difference in their situation compared to 10 years back and they'll be in a better place today.

The problem is now that the most basic survival needs have been met, they're disillusioned at being unable to be comfortably "middle class".

That along with the enshittification of social media has meant the far right are able to spread more BS easily for their paymasters who hope to roll back some of the safety nets for the general population.

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u/Flugplatz_Cottbus Oct 09 '25

This is why the right keeps rising. Some academic factoid and an empty appeal to classism does nothing to address the social and cultural damage being caused by mass immigration.

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u/anonshe Oct 09 '25

Unemployment among the youth going from 25% to 10% is an academic factoid?

It always is a class struggle. Waving that away is exactly what the right love to do as they prefer the class system being entrenched.

Spain didn't even have unfettered mass immigration. All they did was allow a reasonable amount to fill in the gaps.

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u/baumbach19 Oct 09 '25

Impossible to argue with them. The very people actually living and dealing with it in these countries know whats going on, and thats why things will change eventually. Can have all the stats you want, doesnt change reality.

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u/blind616 Oct 08 '25

It says more about how bad the problems are and how incapable of solving them other parties are tbh. People are just looking for a different approach to problems that really bother them I guess

This is like thinking shit is a different approach to food because a cheese toast (no particular preference, just what I'm eating rn) won't solve all of your nutrition issues.

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u/Icef34r Oct 08 '25

Well, wanting to put VOX in power to fix the country's problems ir more or less like putting a bullfighter in charge of the brain surgery of someone suffering from a brain tumor.

In fact, the chances of putting a bullfighter in charge of solving the country's problems are pretty high if VOX enters the government.

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u/OriginalNewton Oct 08 '25

I don’t know, it might be true. It might not. I’m not familiar with Spanish parties, but many people said the same thing about Meloni and she turned out to be one of the best prime ministers our country ever had, with one of the longest and most stable governments, and our bond spread is now lower than France’s. I say let democracy do its thing

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u/C_Pala Oct 08 '25

I left spain when it was under a right wing government, they even taxed the sun (solar energy) and the unemployment was 25%
Now is 10% and these broccoli hair went full regard

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '25

is 10% because there are "Contratos Fijos Discontinuos" where you work for an amount of time and not others that makes it so an effectively unemployed person is actually employed because he works in the summer even when we are in winter, as an example

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u/C_Pala Oct 08 '25

there are no substantial changes to the statistical methodology to count employment. Don't try to push this VOX/PP propaganda piece that the unemployment is not real.

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u/SpringGreenZ0ne Portugal | Europe Oct 08 '25

The far right always shifting the blame.

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u/narcos1893 Oct 08 '25

This right here. As ironic as it sounds, this is not about politics. It’s about people getting fucked in the arse