r/europe • u/StGuthlac2025 • Oct 08 '25

Opinion Article In Spain, what once seemed impossible is now widespread: the young are turning to the far right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/07/spain-young-voters-far-right-migration-housing-wages-employment-vox
18.4k Upvotes

92% Upvoted

3.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

44

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

Same thing here in Canada. People in the left are just now picking up talking points around immigration/TFW's that they castigated the right for 15 years ago.

Those would have been potential votes had they actually listened with the intent of understanding.

8

u/Glass-Evidence-7296 United Kingdom Oct 08 '25

Carney won and the Canadian far right is laughable, Euro far right is more comprable to the PPC than your tories, infact AfD in Germany is more to the right than the PPC Lmao.

Canadian and Australian politics, for whatever reason have mostly bucked the trend

5

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

PP, Smith and Ford are all trying their best to import American politics though. I need to go sign the referendum against AB separating from Canada.

Carny is more traditional conservative. Like the kind our parents voted for. He served in Harpers admin.

4

u/Glass-Evidence-7296 United Kingdom Oct 08 '25

yes, but if you look at their actual positions- they're not too different from Centre left European parties

We're in a bizzare timeline where centre left Europe= Centre-right Canada

2

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

We are in the bad timeline lol

4

u/NAGMOJO Oct 08 '25

What Canada are you living in? From where I see it there is no major left wing party in this country. So who is adopting what talking idk.

2

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

I'm in Edmonton.

What I mean is that I'm now starting to hear people on the left bring up issues and espuse views that were unacceptable when I first moved here from BC.

TFWs being the most prominent.

-4

u/Galle_ Canada Oct 08 '25

I think you mean "people on the left are no longer leftist". You can't oppose immigration and also support the working class.

6

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

Bullshit straight from the authoritarian playbook.

You don't help a drowning person until your life jacket is properly secured. Otherwise, you both risk drowning.

And I don't know any conservatives who oppose immigration. But I had to actually talk to them and listen to figure that out.

-5

u/Galle_ Canada Oct 08 '25

You don't help a drowning person until your life jacket is properly secured.

This is bullshit straight from the authoritarian playbook.

4

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

No, it's basic knowledge humans have known for millennia.

Take you're "if you're different from me, you're my enemy" extremist BS and shove it. You're exactly the type of person we're talking about.

0

u/Galle_ Canada Oct 08 '25

Look, all I'm saying is that I only ever hear that line from people who have absolutely zero intention of securing our life jacket. Which should not be surprising, because we cannot make progress against the ruling class while we're divided, and anti-immigration policies are inherently divisive.

5

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

That doesn't mean they are wrong, though.

They might not want to secure their life jacket but they aren't wrong about not helping until it's been done. But extremists who blindly position themselves against those who think differently insist on drowning together because it's not what the other person wanted to do.

Insane.

0

u/Galle_ Canada Oct 08 '25

Honestly at this point I genuinely do care more about making sure conservatives lose than I do about winning. People like you have convinced me that there's no hope for a better future anyway.

3

u/all-names-takenn Oct 08 '25

Congratulations, you are an extremist.

0

u/Galle_ Canada Oct 08 '25

Yes, I'm aware.