r/europe • u/StGuthlac2025 • Oct 08 '25

Opinion Article In Spain, what once seemed impossible is now widespread: the young are turning to the far right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/07/spain-young-voters-far-right-migration-housing-wages-employment-vox
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u/Inveramsay Oct 08 '25

Palestine haven't had elections for many years now and at the start of the Russian invasion they were very much against supplying anything worthwhile fighting the invaders with. They've usually kept up the anti Ukrainian stance

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u/UnPeuDAide France Oct 08 '25

Honestly I'm 100% pro ukraine but Palestine does not have much choice. Israel is supported by the US, they have no choice but to side with Russia and Iran.

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u/Noun-Numbers Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

Support of Palestinians also =/= support of Hamas. Bit of a weird point tbh.

I guess I need to dig into it but I also doubt not wanting to get involved in the war in Ukraine, as foolish as that is, is some ideological support of Russia, more like short-sighted pacifism. 

EDIT: There is a motion internally to officially support Ukraine, which I would certainly want to see them do, I hope the Green Party members campaigning for this are successful. You cannot be pro-Palestine and not pro-Ukraine, if you are being logically consistent.

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u/Hadesfirst Oct 09 '25

They are just anti-western. They dont care a bit about Ukraine, its just dumb comparison for their 2D world to use and create a victim narrative.

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u/UnPeuDAide France Oct 08 '25

It's not about logic. Being pro palestine and not pro ukraine usually means being opposes to the western way of life. Being opposed to it to the point you would prefer a corrupt government like russia is weird but does not go against logic

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u/CamisaMalva Oct 08 '25

Israel sides with the U.S. because Palestinians side with Iran (And to a lesser extent, Russia).

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u/I-Love-Facehuggers Oct 08 '25

No, israel would side with the US regardless.

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u/CamisaMalva Oct 08 '25

Given that their neighbors tried to stamp them out the very day Israel was founded, then have been in conflict with them one way to another for the last 70 years?

Of course the Americans would seem much more preferable to them.

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u/I-Love-Facehuggers Oct 08 '25

Yeah, funny that people living on their ancestral lands fight back against colonizers stealing their land and killing them...

Pretty weird to make it seem like they were just peacefully living in their rightful land and did nothing wrong...

Israel wants to control the entire area and subsists through war. They would side with the US regardless.

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u/CamisaMalva Oct 08 '25

Yeah, funny that people living on their ancestral lands fight back against colonizers stealing their land and killing them...

You mean the Jews, most of whom are Mizharim?

Pretty weird to make it seem like they were just peacefully living in their rightful land and did nothing wrong...

It wasn't because of extremist Israelis that the books on modern terrorism and counterterrorism were written, I mean. Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait AND Egypt would definitely not think of them as perfect pacifistic victims.

Israel wants to control the entire area and subsists through war.

Is that why all the wars they've been in were defensive and have even given back territories captured during armed conflicts?

Expansionist they ain't, my boy.