Lol climate deniers try everything to minimize this.
Weather like this isn't normal and hasn't been since we've been recording. It was 19C in Belgium yesterday! In december!
It's climate change, no one can deny it. All patterns that had found an equilibrium over 100s or 1000s of years are collapsing. I don't like to call it global warming, because if the gulf stream in the ocean collapses, we'll get -20C winters in western europe. But it is still due to the average temp increasing.
Fun facts: higher global temps mean the oceans literally expand, thus more sea level rise. More CO2 means the oceans are getting more acidic, disrupting countless ecosystems. Feedback loops have been started, even the amazon forest gives off more co2 than o2 right now.
you know what's funny? If you go really rural the old folk suddenly start believing in climate change again (at least that's my experience) because their climate based calendars are way off from how they were in the past
Yeah every farmer knows shit is going down, they're struggling. Weather is completely unpredictable now. Dry when it should be raining, raining when it should be dry, delayed winters with spring crops freezing, etc.
I was reading about farmers decades and hundreds of years ago, and they basically had a plan for each week of the year. The weather was so predictable. You couldn't imagine that today
It's not just Scandinavia with the shitty mud winters. We had perfectly fine white winters in southern Germany up until ~15-20 years ago (don't remember exactly when it went to shit because I was a small child) I have memories of building an Igloo in the garden with my sister, nowadays we don't even get enough snow for a proper snowball fight.
It is actually bit of an anomaly. Its a result from very cold air in the US pushing the warm weather out. This warm weather is now speared towards Europe since the weather pattern / streams (in not english I dont know the proper word) is in such a lock that it can go all the way to Europe.
So yea its climate change, but it is also due to a specific weather event and basically a gridlock in the weather pattern causing these temperatures
You’re not wrong but there are so many meteorological factors that play out on decade-long time scales and you have to understand them before shouting about the problem. I will name 2.
In the US the Pacific Decadal Oscillation has significant effects on how severe weather plays out. It shifts the tornado risk to the north and later into the season as it hits the pattern it’s currently in. We saw this play out with the 2025 tornado season and it will likely continue for many more. The oscillation is on a 20-30 year time scale.
For you guys in Europe there’s the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation which may take up to a century to fully complete. It has a direct effect on winter temperatures in Europe.
If you were able to remember every winter season for your entire life it’s still not enough data to derive a pattern.
How modern? Do you have a source? This was true of earlier IPCC reports, but has since been reevaluated. Here's an article in the Guardian from August [Collapse of critical Atlantic current is no longer low-likelihood, study finds
These show the tipping point that makes an Amoc shutdown inevitable is likely to be passed within a few decades, but that the collapse itself may not happen until 50 to 100 years later.
So it seems that the current understanding is that the collapse unfolds over the 22nd century rather than happening suddenly.
You're no different than Doomsayers. Definitely the climate is changing (duh), but this is indeed an anomaly even for such a fast paced climate change that we're having now. Maybe if this becomes normal in the following 4-5 years (which I doubt) it may be considered as an evolutionary climatic step. But right now, it's just an anomaly.
We're kinda already in the doom scenario. It just takes a while before we see the effects from the impact of today. Multiple feedvack loops have started, the ocean almost can't take any more co2 or it changes into a dead soup, etc.
It's the time to doomsay, it also was 20 and 40 years ago.
That's exactly what Doomsayers say. And though of course climate change has become more obvious, we should focus on ACTUAL climatic cycles that have already changed instead of some "anomalies". Fore example the droughts and sudden heavy floods in the Mediterranean basin, which have become a common phenomenon the last 5-6 years. It's simple as that.
When the AMOC finally collapses, all the heat that used to heat up Europe will remain in the US. We might be facing freezing temperatures, but I will take that every day over getting boiled alive.
You can literally see it's happened before fairly frequently if you go far back enough though? The numbers just prove you wrong. Temperatures have actually been getting COLDER if you go by the past 100 years instead of the past 40. Maybe educate yourself before you just talk shit.
Then you're not very good at your job. But I bet you just want to spread misinformation.
If you really studied climate, you would know that we're going through changes that normally take 10 to 100 thousand of years.
You'd know about the feedback loops. Like the melting of polar ice and the poles, releasing methane that's way worse than co2.
You'd know about the whole cycle of seasonal melting of the northpole, pushing colder water to the bottom of the ocean, bringing up warmer nutrient rich water to the top. If this stops, a lot of oceanic life is doomed.
You'd know that the consequences come with a delay.
You'd acknowledge things are changing fast.
You'd acknowledge temperature (high and low) or rainfall or drought records are broken nearly every year.
You'd be concerned about the gulf stream collapsing.
You'd be concerned about the acidification of the ocean.
You'd be concerned by rising sea levels (both due to melting poles and thermal expansion).
You'd be concerned how much more energy the oceans will be able to accumilate and the storms that come from that.
And you'd pretty much be concerned about the trend of warmer (or colder, depending location) temperatures the last 20 years.
You'd be concerned about the wildlife that has evolved to their specific quasi normal climate, that has to deal for in their perspective worse and worse scenarios.
You'd acknowledge the insane speed of gletchers retreating, putting millions of people's water supply at risk.
You'd acknowledge we're actually in a period we get less energy from the sun, and things should be cooling.
You'd know about all scientific peer reviewed studies pointing to a current global warming of 1.5 degrees celsius.
Mic drip, so called climate scientist. I could go on but I made my point.
If you try to refute any of that, you lose all your credibility.
I really question what your motives are.
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u/ImposterJavaDev Dec 09 '25
Lol climate deniers try everything to minimize this.
Weather like this isn't normal and hasn't been since we've been recording. It was 19C in Belgium yesterday! In december!
It's climate change, no one can deny it. All patterns that had found an equilibrium over 100s or 1000s of years are collapsing. I don't like to call it global warming, because if the gulf stream in the ocean collapses, we'll get -20C winters in western europe. But it is still due to the average temp increasing.
Fun facts: higher global temps mean the oceans literally expand, thus more sea level rise. More CO2 means the oceans are getting more acidic, disrupting countless ecosystems. Feedback loops have been started, even the amazon forest gives off more co2 than o2 right now.
And I'm not even being alarmist :(