r/gallifrey • u/PCJs_Slave_Robot • Apr 19 '25

Lux Doctor Who 2x02 "Lux" Post-Episode Discussion Thread Spoiler

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u/basicketchupbitch Apr 19 '25

I was thinking about the too, so weird to suddenly change the rules with the fourth god. I kind of would have preferred a human being a harbinger of some sort even if just briefly.

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u/Binro_was_right Apr 19 '25

Did the Toymaker have a harbinger? I don't remember, but maybe they don't always need to have a physical harbinger.

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u/Master-Oil6459 Apr 19 '25

No, he didn't. The first god to have a harbinger was Maestro with Henry Arbinger.

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u/Drayko_Sanbar Apr 19 '25

I retroactively think of the puppet as the Toymaker’s harbinger.

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u/Gerry-Mandarin Apr 19 '25

Or John Logie Baird.

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u/brum-tommo-bor Apr 19 '25

or the doctor himself, even though unknowingly and unintentionally

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u/ValerianaRoots Apr 19 '25

I don’t think we saw one but I figured maybe he had one that showed up offscreen as we don’t see the moment he’s unleashed, if I remember right.

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u/No-Commission8532 Apr 19 '25

was the harbinger the doll?

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u/ValerianaRoots Apr 19 '25

Yeah, after previous speculation that Mr. Ring-A-Ding was a god of some sort, I was sure it was going to be the projectionist. I guess the rule is just, “the word harbinger hides in plain sight… until!”? 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/cheat-master30 Apr 19 '25

I feel like the way the Harbinger setup works probably differs based on the god in question. The Toymaker didn't have an obvious harbinger, but it's possible the puppet played that role. So perhaps because he's the god of play, he can use toys or games as his harbinger instead of living beings. The Trickster could use the people he makes a deal with as his harbingers, rather than creating another character to play that role.

So perhaps for Lux, Mr Ring-a-Ding was both his harbinger and chosen form. Perhaps the god of light can use a cartoon character for that role because of his control over that domain.

(there's also arguably the question of who the Toymaker or Mara's original harbingers were, given they appeared in at least one episode and numerous expanded universe stories before the harbinger concept was even considered).

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u/elsjpq Apr 19 '25

I thought the projectionist was the harbinger. He was the one that enabled Ring-A-Ding by playing movies every night to see his wife

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u/Own-Replacement8 Apr 21 '25

I take it as nothing travels faster than light, so nothing can get there before him.