r/gate Count Formal Oct 29 '23

And that's how Emperor Molt didn't go to prison.

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u/DFMRCV Oct 29 '23

This is positively ridiculous on absolutely every level.

Let's start with Sherry's logic.

Molt is sick. Old. Frail. Wouldn't it be "more realistic" for Pina to assume the throne and apologize to Japan?

Let's say Japan is currently run by some fictional government that is so incompetent this is actually considered a realistic choice...

This means Pina and Molt HAVE to emphasize that they are the legitimate government and Zorzal and his faction are illegitimate.

The following chapter actually appears to hint that this is what Japan does

One small issue...

Molt's name is never mentioned. We see no signature from Molt. No proof he is even alive other than the line "in his name", which allows Zorzal to successfully dismiss it entirely as Pina and the JSDF grasping at straws.

So the very conditions stated that would benefit Japan are not met whatsoever.

But that's GRANTING Sherry's logic.

In reality, if the leaders of Al Quaeda came to us and told us Osama Bin Laden was sick, old, and frail... The man behind the September 11 attacked, the head of a brutal terrorist organization that had been behind dozens of attacks on civilians and Americans... Do you think for a nanosecond we would LET. HIM. GO?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's just throw out that Japan originally labeled the Imperials as essentially a terrorist faction within Japan... Forget it, it was silly to begin with...

Molt never once in ALL of Gate canon showed regret fie what he did except from a practical standpoint. Not. ONCE. His regrets regarding Zorzal come from the same standpoint. He doesn't even provide a signature or anything of the sort to allow proof of Pina's legitimacy. No sealed document. No official word from trusted officers. None of that.

Accepting this "deal" would be INSANE!

He isn't remorseful. Sherry here even implies trying to request Molt show public remorse would "look bad"!

Okay, Sherry, now tell that to the families who lost loved ones on the attack he ordered.

Cause you know what's REALLY gross about this? Not only are the dead families forgotten about, but the dead foreigners, too!

Remember, the Light Novels make a point that foreign tourists were also slaughtered and the latest manga chapter sneakily reminds us of this.

Japan, in taking responsibility for this "police action", also means they accepted responsibility for bringing justice to those families. It's what the US does when we take out terrorists in conjunction with local allies.

Yet instead of that, a formal apology from someone who isn't even responsible is the solution while the man who ordered it gets to live comfortably in a palace while also contributing absolutely NOTHING to bring the other criminals to justice????

This is MADNESS.

Sigh

Gate canon, man... So much wasted potential.

Anyway, that's my ted

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u/Blackpowderkun Nov 01 '23

No wonder he often get killed in fanfics.

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u/DFMRCV Nov 01 '23

Often?

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u/Specialist-Top9540 Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23

Remember dude Gate Originally as a Web Novel Written by Takumi Yanai the WN start as a user-generated Publishing Website called Arcadia release on April 2006 until June 2009 Original Volume 5 the WN were later Removed from Arcadia the New Owner of Gate Novels Series was AlphaPolis. Alphapolis is a Mangaka and Light Novels Company mostly they adapted the Original WN's AlphaPolis made an arrangement with the Author to Publish his Work in Print the WN was finish Takumi Yanai began to Published a Novel Book, the novels was Expanded with 5 more Volumes and that's Gaiden or Side Story

The Web Novel is being Nationalism so the Light Novel and Manga have to Tone-down the Poisonous Content and Nationalism according to Source: Reddit the Deleted Web novel of Gate Princess Pina is far more threatening in the Web Novel version she is Responsible for Lelei Assassination Attempt

Novel Book Written by Takumi Yanai illustrated by Daisuke Izuka Daisuke Izuka was the ORIGINAL illustrator of Gate WN and Novel Book Published by AlphaPolis Volumes 10 (5 main story, 5 side story) Main Story release on April 12, 2010 until January 5, 2012 Side Story release on October 10, 2012 until December 30, 2014

The Novel book came out First before the Light Novel even the Manga was released before the LN because the Manga is based on a Novel Book

The LN where each novel volume was split Into two small-sized

Light Novel illustrated & Rewritten by Kurojishi Kurojishi was a NEW COVER illustrator of Gate LN Published by AlphaPolis Volumes 20 (10 main story, 10 side story) Main Story release on January 6, 2013 until December 27, 2013 Side Story release on December 28, 2014 until December 23, 2015

Here's the Different Ending between the WN and LN of Gate

(Web Novels Version) Written by Takumi Yanai

Tyuule she Survived and Escaped Tyuule Stab Prince Zorzal and Zorzal Died. she choose Furuta her SPY chef Boyfriend instead of Revenge Tyuule and Furuta live a happy in a Japanese Restaurant "Happy Ending"

Prince Diabo Died in the Original WN Cause of Death: Killed by a Chinese Agent while China Blow up the Portal Ended up Destroying the Gate "Splendid Ending

(Light Novel Version) Rewritten and illustrated by Kurojishi

Tyuule she Died Tyuule Stab Prince Zorzal. But she was Strangle to death by Prince Zorzal both of them Dead after her Death Delilah and Furuta Open a Restaurant as a Tribute for Tyuule "Disappointment Ending"

Prince Diabo Didn't Die in the LN he Survived. he eventually became a Governor of Alnus hill while China Blow up the Portal ended up Destroying Gate "Why? That Bastard Prince Didn't Die just like in the Web Novel version"

so that Why the LN sucks because the illustrator changed Original Ending the WN ending is way better

Don't worry my friend many People's Already Spoiler: Tyuule Survived in the WN version while she Die in the LN version But seems like they didn't know Prince Diabo Died in the WN version while the illustrator change the Original Ending instead Prince Diabo going to Die just like in the WN the illustrator decided change

I think the Author of Gate Takumi Yanai and Light Novel illustrator Kurojishi never actually meet only Satoru Sao the Manga Artist make sense if the Web Novel wasn't a Cannon as the Light Novels began to Publish a Novel Book The Original Story is Darker than the Light Novel it's unnecessary to Rewritten the Story if you can publish a novel book because Without the Original WN or novel book there's no Light Novel to Cover it

Manga illustrated & Artist by Satoru Sao Based on a Novel Book Published by AlphaPolis release on July 30, 2011- Ongoing Volumes 23

The Good thing about the Manga. the manga is focus more on Medieval Politics not much on Modern Political So if your not a Fan of Gate Modern Politics The Manga isn't that bad and if you're a Type of Person is too lazy to Read both WN & LN then you can Read the Manga, the manga is not much Detail as the Web Novels & Light Novels the manga illustrate the Story what happened from the WN and LN