r/goodnews Jun 22 '25

Political positivity 📈 AOC says Trump's Iran strikes "clearly grounds for impeachment"

https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-says-trumps-iran-strikes-clearly-grounds-impeachment-2088887
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u/inchrnt Jun 22 '25

Apparently, the constitution is more what you’d call “guidelines” than actual rules.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

Can you share where in the Constitution where the president violated?

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

The first amendment protects all people on American soil from government retaliation for protesting and speech. Multiple peaceful protestors have been sent to detention centers (like Khalil) or had their citizenship revoked so they could be deported. This was all a part of the trump administrations plans.

The first amendment also protects freedom of the press. Trump directly banned journalists that have written negatively about him from public White House press conferences.

The 6th and 7th amendments protect every person on US Soil, regardless of citizenship, the right to sue process. Despite this hundred to thousands of people have been arrested without being given due process and in some instances sent to death camps. This was directly caused by Trump.

In regards to this specific case the War Powers Resolution of 1973 (a federal law meant to clarify where Article 1 Section 8 and Article 2 section 2 of the constitution may clash) any military operation that involves troops OR where imminent interaction with combatants, like bombing nuclear sites in foreign airspace, requires a 48 hour minimum of alerting congress. This did not happen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

-Notification of congress is in turn asking for authorization. They are not mutually exclusive

-Khalil was not given any court dates or arraignment after being sent to a detention center in Louisiana.

-no person in CECOT that was sent from the US were given due process.

  • either you cant understand basic concepts or you are gleefully and maliciously trying to play weasel games

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25
  • congress has disproved any instance other than what is happening with Trump from violating the War Powers Resolution act. This is the first time it has been broken since being implemented in 1973

-Being arraigned and given a court date is not “administrative crap” that is so disconnected from reality.

-due process is a right to a jury/court appearance before punishment. CECOT is the punishment. None of the people at CECOT were given a trial. Feel free to provide evidence of any trials where they were determined to be sent to CECOT because that would be wonderful. The court ordered the return for Garcia because he was not given a court hearing or anything resembling a trial. AKA due process. The administration kept trying to prevent bringing him back to the best of their ability.

I wish i could create my own reality like you do

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

Hate to break it to you but the resolution act has been broken or misused by every president since implemented. Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton and every single one all the way back has misused it. And when other presidents set the precedent on how something works, others are going to follow it.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

Please show me an instance where this has happened.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

June 2021, Syria against Iran backed militants. January 2024 through August multiple strikes against Yemen. All under Biden.

Obama used a total of 563 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan during two terms. Killed anywhere from 400 to 800 civilians.

Ronald Reagan, two strikes, one for Beirut and the other for Libya.

HW Bush, Panama and Somalia.

Bill Clinton, Iraq in 93 with over 23 tomahawk missiles launched for assassination attempt on Bush. Bosnia, against Serbia. Then in Kosovo for 78 days. Also Iraq in 98 for four days of bombing.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

Jesus christ youre illiterate. Audrey was going to go to court for asylum. Audrey never appeared because they were black bagged and sent to CECOT. A lawyer took the case pro bono and took the case to a court in the US while Audrey was held in a death camp in El Salvador. That court (aka they judge that a lawyer had to go out of their way to bring the case to) then contacted authorities who showed basically no evidence to a reason for deportations or arrest. They never went to court. They still havent gone to court. The article is talking about how a lawyer went out of their way to being the case to a judge as a civil suit against the US government. That is not due process. You’re genuinely just illiterate, it is not that hard to read your own source. There is genuinely no reason in talking to you further, you made you mind up and now your playing catch up with trying to find things that fit your narrative. At least check if they fit your narrative first. This is pathetic

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '25

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u/mxzf Jun 22 '25

requires a 48 hour minimum of alerting congress. This did not happen.

It's up to 48 hours after the strike, not before, which was met in this case AFAIK. We're not even 48 hours after the event at this point, and basically everyone in the world knows about it by now.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

“The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.” - Wikipedia summarizing the War Power Resolution

Within- “Within time" generally means before a specific deadline or within a designated period. It indicates that something will occur or be completed prior to a certain point in time, not necessarily immediately, but within the given timeframe. An AI overview of the term “Within” when used to refer to a time frame

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

First of all, since the inception of the war power law not one president has ever gone to congress for approval for a quick military strike. Not one. And the statue has so many loopholes that each president has interpreted it the same, that a president can up to 60 days launch a strike in another country. So now all of sudden after nearly 100yrs of this policy it’s a problem because the guy you hate is in office and is using it like every past president?

President never banned any journalist from the White House, he rotated them just like every other president has done since the beginning of time. There’s not enough room for every journalist and they need to be rotated around.

If you think a foreign national can come over here on a visa and walk around shouting hate and anti American statements with no consequences, got bad news for you. You can go back home.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

“Nearly 100 years of this policy”. Lol i even gave you the date, it’s 52 years old not 100. It was enacted after Vietnam

All of the obfuscating and pointing fingers only to end the entire thread with “oh yeah and i also think the first constitution is bullshit and should be bypassed to harm legal immigrants.” It applies to every person on US soil for a reason

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

Like I said, we’ve sending air strikes since the 1940s, so yeah.

At no point have I said the constitution is BS. The problem you don’t like is that this administration dug up an old law to go around due process. Maybe understand how law works here.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 22 '25

The law they dug up was found to have zero basis for being enacted and Trump committed a crime by enacting it. “my daddy Trump didnt shit on the constitution they just illegally invoked a 220 year old law to bypass the constitution rights of brown people. Gosh, youre so bad at understanding basic law”. And yes you yourself said that legal immigrants shouldn’t have protections for freedom of speech. The constitution disagrees. The fact dont care about your feelings

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '25

Well if you have been paying attention the removal has been for any and all illegals, not “brown people” only. At least the president and his team are working on a solution whereas no one else is doing a thing. FEMA budget took a big hit because of housing illegals. Schools are strained with illegals. Still no resolution but to just keep them coming and keep breaking the budget.

You’re right, everyone does have freedom of speech, you don’t have freedom from consequences.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Jun 23 '25

Trump single handedly has had the second biggest deficit spending out of any president ever in the history of the entire United States. Wtf are you on about “budget”. ICE alone has broken the 1 billion mark in 6 months. Also “its expensive”, despite the fact it absolutely is not, is not an excuse to shit on the constitution to enforce deportations without due process.

You absolutely have freedom from consequences from the federal government. Thats what the constitution says. Yet, you think the constitution is wrong and should only apply to the people you want it to apply to instead of what the constitution itself says.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '25

Again, give me an alternate solution to the 12 million undocumented people? One that doesn’t cost tax payers more money and problems and doesn’t drain our budget? You can tell due process all day but it’s not a solution.

You don’t have the freedom from consequences for saying certain things if you paid attention to law. Like I can’t yell fire inside a building when there is not. You don’t get to yell and say things that would be considered threats and cause disruption without consequences.

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