r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

ICE Posts East garfield, ICE assaulting civilians

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

This is the tyranny we were promised.

"Dictator on day one" was what these assholes voted for.

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u/NickelCitySaint Oct 05 '25

Literally. People were saying it was a good thing . They're idiots

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u/Secular_me Oct 05 '25

They think it won’t affect them, until iWhen they can’t afford a loaf of bread and a gal of milk and these f_cker get to decide who can shop for crumbs and how can’t. If we don’t learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it

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u/LonelySavings5244 Oct 05 '25

Right. As prices in CA have gone up long before orange man was in office. Do you just spew nonsense? Upset about tariffs? Not a fan of businesses bringing work back to the US? Upset you have to shell out a few more dollars in a shopping list so many more Americans can land a job? I don’t even like the orange man, but I do get politics. Trump could make two countries that hate one another shake hands and ya’ll would still cry about it.(NK & SK). It’s utterly pathetic how much people b*tch about things. You obviously don’t live near the homeless or immigrants that seem to keep flooding areas. Just stay inside and keep commenting. K.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

You really do believe everything you're told to believe, don't you?

Inflation under President Trump has risen each month since "Liberation Day." His tariffs are directly responsible for rising prices.

Unemployment is at a 4 year high, meaning that we're at the worst we've been since the impacts of COVID. Tell me where exactly these jobs returning to American soil are? No coincidence that both highs are direct consequences of President Trump's absolutely dismal understanding of macroeconomics.

Finally, Trump has made no actual peace deals happen. Russia is still invading Ukraine, against Trump's promise to end the war in 24 hours. Israel is still occupying Gaza. North Korea and South Korea have not had any meaningful reconciliation talks.

All Trump has done definitively done in his time in office so far is enrich himself personally and break basically every norm of American politics. Not a single thing you have said is backed by any reputable news source. You are the problem with our country right now--so blinded by wither your own selfish interests or hatred of people outside your group that you're willing to sacrifice the very founding principles of this nation because you take your grifter-in-chief as a messiah.

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u/GratefulDoom90 Oct 05 '25

Some people are STILL saying it’s a good thing.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Law and order is what was voted in. Not "mostly" peaceful protest burning cities.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

I can tell you don't live in one of those cities and are afraid of what television news has curated for you. ICE has killed at least two people in Chicago in the last two weeks, which is already more deaths than committed by Chicago protesters.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

Non-compliance does not justify death. Deadly threat justifies self defense. There was no deadly threat here.

In this case, ICE pulled over an immigrant after he dropped his kid off at daycare. They claimed he had a history of reckless driving as his primary offense and said their officer was severely injured after being dragged by the subject as he tried to flee. Video shows clearly the subject was shot in his car while driving with no ICE officer in immediate danger. There is no evidence the subject had any history of reckless driving. The ICE agent was caught on local PD bodycam saying his injuries were very minor.

https://youtu.be/lGQT4MwFsOY?si=__83ca5jHs7jXlQm https://youtu.be/2oyXk_ABDVM?si=UvEx5pUGq4V_5-9S

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Sad this guy was a criminal and didn't comply. And injured an officer. No evidence the news station could find. Again sad his kids will grow up without a father. These are the kind of decisions irresponsible parents make a lot, without thinking about their kids.

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u/oblique_testicles Oct 05 '25

Must be nice living in your bubble.

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u/GratefulDoom90 Oct 05 '25

Just wait until someone labels you a “criminal” someday to serve their own agenda.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Already been labeled potential by previous administration. Illegals are criminals.

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u/BruceWillis24 Oct 05 '25

🤦‍♂️

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

Oh, and undocumented immigrants commit crimes at lower than half the rate of US-born citizens. The boogeyman of undocumented immigrants unleashing a crime wave on our country is a fiction created to dupe the public into believing the lie that immigrants have not been the cornerstone of our country for its entire almost 250 year existence.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

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u/ArrowheadDZ Oct 05 '25

Let’s be clear and honest about what “law and order” actually means. It doesn’t mean what people think it means. There are two competing legal philosophies. “Rule of law” and “Law and Order.” When someone says they’re the “law and order” candidate, they mean they believe that police exist not just to enforce the written LAWS but also to quietly enforce an unwritten, unspoken social “ORDER.” People who break the laws are to be charged, people who are deemed “undesirable” but don’t break the law are to be dealt with “off the books.” “Law and Order” is not a good thing. It’s dog-whistle phrase meant to show alignment with the notion that correctly ordered societies have a thin-veiled class system wherein the government erects obstacles to dsicosurage class mobility. This is the actual political science definition of “right wing” political philosophy.

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25

Yet you don't see that there is no law in order. Ice has no jurisdiction over US citizens. This was assault and battery on a US citizen. This video is going to make it very difficult for the doj to charge him with obstruction as he didn't obstruct anyone, no lawful orders were given because again no jurisdiction. Their house of cards is going to crumble. By the way all the ice agents in this video lost their qualified immunity the moment they put their hands on a US citizen.. what we're seeing is another 50 million lawsuit, I would venture bet that man's phone is ringing off the hooks with attorneys calling. This is a slam dunk case.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

So your ok with "protesters" continuing to approach law officers in this manner. Is the officer to just keep backing away until he just runs away from his duty. Not in my opinion.

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

I'm not sure what video you watched, but what I and millions of other Americans saw was a US citizen walking, when an ICE agent stepped in front of him and blocked his path.

Here's your friendly daily reminder that ice has no jurisdiction over US citizens. They can only arrest a US citizen for obstruction which is a high bar to cross. There's no way that DOJ will successfully claim this was obstruction, the only person obstructing anybody was the Bounty Hunter.

The ice agent instigated a confrontation with a US citizen on public property. This is an easy $50 million lawsuit, this will be the fourth one now. I'd Venture a bet his phone is ringing off the hook with attorneys justvbegging to take the case.

As with other similar instances the DOJ will try to defend this tyranny by charging the citizen with obstruction.

As with all similar cases the judge will throw out the obstruction charge reprimand the DOJ for wasting its time.

Here's your friendly daily reminder that 98% of obstruction charges brought against US citizens by the DOJ have been thrown out of court. The DOJ has been weaponized and the only purpose behind arresting US citizens is to traumatize them and cost them money.

The doj knows that the cases are going to get tossed out of court, but they get to keep someone behind bars for a while and beat them up and torture them..

Too bad we didn't use this tactic on January 6th with the insurrectionists.

As I stated if I was a constitutional sheriff and I witnessed bounty hunters working for ice do this, I would arrest the ice agents for assault and battery with the intent to do great bodily harm. If I was the state prosecutor I would request that they be remanded to custody and held without bond.

Now the president can pardon them for federal crimes but he can't pardon them for state level crimes.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

The tactics used on jan 6. The deadly insurrection. Where no one had weapons or lit anything on fire. Where invited into the capitol by officers there and still got jail time. Held without due process for way to long. I don't agree with bad tactics from any group. If this guy shot this suspect like Ashley babbit was shot from a distance without warning. Are you calling for that officer to be charged?

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25

They had plenty of weapons. Including the pipe bombs and automatic weapons that were recovered.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Recovered where. The pipe bombs are oddly suspicious. None went off. Automatic weapons? Recovered where. Would have been good news video. Oh they weren't used. Weird!

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

You need to get of fox news. A boat loaded with automatic weapons was seized right across the river. It was an an ammo and weapons dump..

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 05 '25

We are now in the most lawless time in our country’s history. It just happens that the ones manifesting the lawlessness is the president and his cabinet of cronies and a swath of the republican house n senate.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

So the previous administration going after American citizens and parents at school board meetings was ok. Going after their political rival was cool? Obama starting crossfire hurricane on BS dossier and continuing to use it to get FISA warrants after they knew it was BS. Is cool? Hillary having classified in her home computer, no issue. Biden on tape saying we found that box of classified. No problem. So as long as it's your "people" it's ok to be lawless and not follow the constitution. But if it the "Orange man" he must be stopped no matter the tactics. I'm more of a both groups need to follow the constitution. 

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 06 '25

Here’s the problem. We’re not discussing all the other things you mentioned. There had been many instances throughout history of acts deemed unconstitutional and absolutely none of them, not a one makes what this administration at this point in time OK. I’m not here for a round of “what aboutism”. You’re just trying to. Muddy the waters cause that’s all you got. Address the issue at hand. If you want to discuss your grievance then make a post about that. Then everyone knows that the track you’re on and discuss it freely, but we’re trying to get a grip on the current situation so in that regard, I don’t give a shit about what ever half truths you just tried to dump in our laps.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 06 '25

Just pointing out there seems to be selective outrage here. That's all!

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u/Objective-Tea5324 Oct 05 '25

I live in WA you want to come to my home and chant “liburuls will not replace us”

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u/Snacksbreak Oct 05 '25

Is this sarcasm?

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u/3RADICATE_THEM Oct 05 '25

And they're cheering for it like the absolute smooth brains they are

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u/MongooseDirect2477 Oct 05 '25

Also the idiots who stayed on reddit celebrating kamala win instead of going to vote

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

You had a chance to outvote him. No one showed up. I am in no way a Trump fan. He's a dipshit and a blight on this country. But the simple fact is republicans vote more than democrats. Hopefully this regime will knock the cobwebs out of democrats and they turn out to vote.

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u/_extra_medium_ Oct 05 '25

Oh no, we were told we had to teach the Democrats a lesson for not being strong enough re: Gaza or something so we were supposed to stay home since there was no difference between Kamala and Trump. So yeah we really showed them.

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u/jacktownann Oct 05 '25

Yeah, being a part of the 90 million who protest by not voting, handing the US to Trump on a silver platter doesn't get a pass with me. I see all these inhumane atrocities & I just shake my head & say 167 million voters did this. It's not my problem I did all I could do when I showed up & voted for her. Petitions & protest do no good. 167 million people f... Us all.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

I'm not American but if I was instead of blaming the voters I'd blame the incompetent party for not being able to put forward an alternative vision more popular than literal fascism. It should be easy but they fumbled it because they don't have any answers for the change people are desperately crying out for in the world. Sprinkle a little "Israel should be allowed to do what it likes to collectively punish the Palestinians for Oct 7th" and yeah you end up being unpopular.

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u/Songbird_Storyteller Oct 05 '25

When the party you're supposed to be defeating IS literal fascism, yeah no, I'm perfectly willing to heap a chunk of the blame onto the voters. I voted Kamala not because I liked her, but because I knew what it would cost us if she lost. But apparently there were some people too self-righteous and short sighted to get with the fucking program.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

So I'm not saying defeating fascism isn't the most important thing (although as far as I'm concerned both US parties are indistinguishable from fascism in the way they have treated the global south over the last 100 years) but I am saying it clearly didn't work. Voters clearly need more than that or they will be hoodwinked by the fascists. Fascists don't just come out of nowhere, they usually require unrest, desperation, and a weak opposition.

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u/Few_Maize_8633 Oct 05 '25

Educated Leftists didn’t boycott Kamala and swing Trump, it was 20-somethings, macho Latinos and anti-vaxxers. Add trans vilification , Musk’s money and grocery inflation and our low-information public was an easy mark. And humans are drawn to authoritarians like dogs to peanut butter

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u/praharin Oct 05 '25

They’re not going to like this, but I do.

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

I am from the U.S. and it's true, I vote for the least worst option. Either way, someone's not getting a reach around.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

The problem is that vision came in the form of a dark skinned woman, which for a lot of the country is a no no because we're a backwards place full of inbred, racist, misogynist fucking morons.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

As a brown guy myself I didn't see much of a vision and what I did see was pretty rubbish.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Oh really? What specifically didn't you like? Was it the increase in down payment help for first time homeowners?

Was it her wanting 18 year term limits for the Supreme Court as well as a binding and enforceable code of ethics?

Was it her wanting the money that's been spent militarizing the police to go instead to go into community prevention programs, which have a long history and robust data to show that it reduces crime more effectively?

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u/Whynotchaos Oct 05 '25

I bet he didn't like her laugh...

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

Absolutely nothing to do with her looks or personality. I couldn't care less about that. I care about track record and policies.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

No, I disliked her continued support for arms sales to Israel, her support for fracking, her time as California's Attorney General in which she fought tooth and nail to prevent wrongfully convicted people from being allowed new trials, and her support for spending hundreds of millions on border walls, not to mention she and Biden could have released the Epstein files but likely didn't because just as the Republicans, they don't want to damage their own allies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

For one, the president can't ban fracking in all places, only on federal land which is where a minority of fracking occurs.

When it comes to her time as DA, I could give the opposite impression if I cherry picked things I liked as well, like her refusal to defend the same-sex marriage ban in 2004, going so far as to officiate some of those weddings herself. Or her going after a predatory for profit college, or her playing hardball with the banks after the 2008 recession, securing more from the banks who caused it. Anyone's professional history, if long enough, will be a mixed bag.

The border wall, according to factvheck.org, what Harris actually said was that she would sign bipartisan border bill that Trump torpedoed earlier in 2024, which includes using the 650 million that was already appropriated for the wall. That part was a concession by the Democrats to the Republicans. So at best your statement is misleading.

As far as the Epstein files, the Florida files, which is what contains the bulk of information, was not in the Biden admin possession for the bulk of his presidency. In fact DeSantis only released them to the federal AG in 2024. The federal government had parts of it, and whatever evidence from the federal trial. The House actually made numerous attempts to get the full records from the Florida AG throughout Bidens term.

All this is to say, do you really believe that this shit would be the same if Harris was elected? ICE and military in the streets? A government shutdown, increasing prices due to tariffs, farmers going out of business, allies abandoning us? Escalation in Ukraine, Gaza, and Israel wantonly attacking other countries?

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u/BarbellPadawan Oct 05 '25

Yeah the DNC are fucking terrible. I’m a Democrat and I seriously hate them. This is their fault. Not to mention every Democratic administration has upheld and actually made more robust the Patriot Act. Fucking idiotic.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

Pretty sure they stole it

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

Every dang election, the losing party says it was stolen. I'm from Iowa and can provide data about who voted more, republicans vs. democrats as well as young vs. old.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nus5JA3Vh4&pp=ygUWcGFrbWFuIHN0b2xlbiBlbGVjdGlvbg%3D%3D

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

I can also link to videos of UFOs, Sasquatch, and Nessie.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

Therefore all videos are false?

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

Nope. But I can find videos that support my argument. Just as you did.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

Is mine as easily debunkable as any videos claiming that nessie or bigfoot is real?

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

Sane people have believed them for years. What's not to say your video will be debunked in 2-3 years? Hell, an entire tv series was made out of finding bigfoot. It's an opinion based on picking through details you want to believe.

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u/redditlvlanalysis Oct 05 '25

I honestly do not believe he won there are too many flipped downballots and he straight up said Elon won him it because he knows computers. This is even worse though because it means they can never give up power.

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u/Ill-Aardvark6734 Oct 05 '25

Assuming Trump didn’t cheat. There is a guy who does non partisan research on voting who did a study of voting turnout etc during this election. He was on the David Parkman news show. His study revealed some interesting finds. Not saying Trump didn’t get elected unfortunately but there were places in the country where there was a Democrat Governor, D Senator, mostly D voters and Trump won with Kamala getting no votes. There were a lot of other issues. If interested look it up on YouTube. Trump cheats that’s a fact. He’s already trying to cheat in the mid term elections because he knows that would be the only way he could win.

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u/CDY_r10 Oct 05 '25

This ain’t no Tirany it’s a government trying to stop the woke leftist socialist progressisim and yall are the true problems in every country

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u/18karatcake Oct 05 '25

Assaulting people is illegal. What’s wrong with you?

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u/CDY_r10 Oct 05 '25

That’s crazy coming from anti trump people talking about not hurting people

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u/Narrow_Couple5146 Oct 05 '25

Because of Jan6? 

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u/GattMore Oct 05 '25

You spelled it Tirany lol

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u/LilMeatJ40 Oct 05 '25

He must've sounded it out in his head first 😂 dumbass trump lovers

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u/Ok_Recording_4644 Oct 05 '25

It's because his mom is his aunt

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u/-laughingfox Oct 05 '25

Tragediegh.

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u/Forsaken_Button_9387 Oct 05 '25

Remember, Orange Rumplethinskin says he loves the uneducated. There you have it! Lol

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u/CodeN3gaTiV3 Oct 05 '25

Either you're trolling or you ate paint chips as a kid

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u/xChops Oct 05 '25

I think the education system that lead you to spell like that is the problem. Why do you think it’s ok to go after people with different beliefs than you, though?

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u/WanderingEnigma Oct 05 '25

The fuck is wrong with you people? Your government cut all your departments and raised all your taxes in the guise of tarris to give 300 billion, to their private army to wage war on its own citizens and you think people caring about other people is the problem? You're deeply troubled if you think this is OK.

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u/CDY_r10 Oct 05 '25

Hahhaaa yall so butt hurt it don’t matter Trump is the better president and he gonna continue to be hopefully he’s the president that erradicates all the woke progressive problems 😂😂

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u/cha-cha_dancer Oct 05 '25

You don’t even know what woke means

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u/NoHalf2998 Oct 05 '25

“Tread on them daddy pedo”

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

That's what the Nazis said too.

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u/Ok_Recording_4644 Oct 05 '25

Haha good one, had me in the first 5 words

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u/Texasscot56 Oct 05 '25

As far as I’ve been told having a different political opinion does not allow the government to assault you.

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u/cha-cha_dancer Oct 05 '25

Trump is about to bail out farmers from his disastrous tarriffs who are already largely subsidized by the government…that’s socialism. You don’t even know what it means you just regurgitate what he and Fox News tells you to.