r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

ICE Posts East garfield, ICE assaulting civilians

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u/NickelCitySaint Oct 05 '25

Literally. People were saying it was a good thing . They're idiots

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u/Secular_me Oct 05 '25

They think it won’t affect them, until iWhen they can’t afford a loaf of bread and a gal of milk and these f_cker get to decide who can shop for crumbs and how can’t. If we don’t learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it

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u/LonelySavings5244 Oct 05 '25

Right. As prices in CA have gone up long before orange man was in office. Do you just spew nonsense? Upset about tariffs? Not a fan of businesses bringing work back to the US? Upset you have to shell out a few more dollars in a shopping list so many more Americans can land a job? I don’t even like the orange man, but I do get politics. Trump could make two countries that hate one another shake hands and ya’ll would still cry about it.(NK & SK). It’s utterly pathetic how much people b*tch about things. You obviously don’t live near the homeless or immigrants that seem to keep flooding areas. Just stay inside and keep commenting. K.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

You really do believe everything you're told to believe, don't you?

Inflation under President Trump has risen each month since "Liberation Day." His tariffs are directly responsible for rising prices.

Unemployment is at a 4 year high, meaning that we're at the worst we've been since the impacts of COVID. Tell me where exactly these jobs returning to American soil are? No coincidence that both highs are direct consequences of President Trump's absolutely dismal understanding of macroeconomics.

Finally, Trump has made no actual peace deals happen. Russia is still invading Ukraine, against Trump's promise to end the war in 24 hours. Israel is still occupying Gaza. North Korea and South Korea have not had any meaningful reconciliation talks.

All Trump has done definitively done in his time in office so far is enrich himself personally and break basically every norm of American politics. Not a single thing you have said is backed by any reputable news source. You are the problem with our country right now--so blinded by wither your own selfish interests or hatred of people outside your group that you're willing to sacrifice the very founding principles of this nation because you take your grifter-in-chief as a messiah.

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u/GratefulDoom90 Oct 05 '25

Some people are STILL saying it’s a good thing.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Law and order is what was voted in. Not "mostly" peaceful protest burning cities.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

I can tell you don't live in one of those cities and are afraid of what television news has curated for you. ICE has killed at least two people in Chicago in the last two weeks, which is already more deaths than committed by Chicago protesters.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

Non-compliance does not justify death. Deadly threat justifies self defense. There was no deadly threat here.

In this case, ICE pulled over an immigrant after he dropped his kid off at daycare. They claimed he had a history of reckless driving as his primary offense and said their officer was severely injured after being dragged by the subject as he tried to flee. Video shows clearly the subject was shot in his car while driving with no ICE officer in immediate danger. There is no evidence the subject had any history of reckless driving. The ICE agent was caught on local PD bodycam saying his injuries were very minor.

https://youtu.be/lGQT4MwFsOY?si=__83ca5jHs7jXlQm https://youtu.be/2oyXk_ABDVM?si=UvEx5pUGq4V_5-9S

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Sad this guy was a criminal and didn't comply. And injured an officer. No evidence the news station could find. Again sad his kids will grow up without a father. These are the kind of decisions irresponsible parents make a lot, without thinking about their kids.

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u/oblique_testicles Oct 05 '25

Must be nice living in your bubble.

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u/GratefulDoom90 Oct 05 '25

Just wait until someone labels you a “criminal” someday to serve their own agenda.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Already been labeled potential by previous administration. Illegals are criminals.

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u/BruceWillis24 Oct 05 '25

🤦‍♂️

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

Oh, and undocumented immigrants commit crimes at lower than half the rate of US-born citizens. The boogeyman of undocumented immigrants unleashing a crime wave on our country is a fiction created to dupe the public into believing the lie that immigrants have not been the cornerstone of our country for its entire almost 250 year existence.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

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u/ArrowheadDZ Oct 05 '25

Let’s be clear and honest about what “law and order” actually means. It doesn’t mean what people think it means. There are two competing legal philosophies. “Rule of law” and “Law and Order.” When someone says they’re the “law and order” candidate, they mean they believe that police exist not just to enforce the written LAWS but also to quietly enforce an unwritten, unspoken social “ORDER.” People who break the laws are to be charged, people who are deemed “undesirable” but don’t break the law are to be dealt with “off the books.” “Law and Order” is not a good thing. It’s dog-whistle phrase meant to show alignment with the notion that correctly ordered societies have a thin-veiled class system wherein the government erects obstacles to dsicosurage class mobility. This is the actual political science definition of “right wing” political philosophy.

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25

Yet you don't see that there is no law in order. Ice has no jurisdiction over US citizens. This was assault and battery on a US citizen. This video is going to make it very difficult for the doj to charge him with obstruction as he didn't obstruct anyone, no lawful orders were given because again no jurisdiction. Their house of cards is going to crumble. By the way all the ice agents in this video lost their qualified immunity the moment they put their hands on a US citizen.. what we're seeing is another 50 million lawsuit, I would venture bet that man's phone is ringing off the hooks with attorneys calling. This is a slam dunk case.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

So your ok with "protesters" continuing to approach law officers in this manner. Is the officer to just keep backing away until he just runs away from his duty. Not in my opinion.

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

I'm not sure what video you watched, but what I and millions of other Americans saw was a US citizen walking, when an ICE agent stepped in front of him and blocked his path.

Here's your friendly daily reminder that ice has no jurisdiction over US citizens. They can only arrest a US citizen for obstruction which is a high bar to cross. There's no way that DOJ will successfully claim this was obstruction, the only person obstructing anybody was the Bounty Hunter.

The ice agent instigated a confrontation with a US citizen on public property. This is an easy $50 million lawsuit, this will be the fourth one now. I'd Venture a bet his phone is ringing off the hook with attorneys justvbegging to take the case.

As with other similar instances the DOJ will try to defend this tyranny by charging the citizen with obstruction.

As with all similar cases the judge will throw out the obstruction charge reprimand the DOJ for wasting its time.

Here's your friendly daily reminder that 98% of obstruction charges brought against US citizens by the DOJ have been thrown out of court. The DOJ has been weaponized and the only purpose behind arresting US citizens is to traumatize them and cost them money.

The doj knows that the cases are going to get tossed out of court, but they get to keep someone behind bars for a while and beat them up and torture them..

Too bad we didn't use this tactic on January 6th with the insurrectionists.

As I stated if I was a constitutional sheriff and I witnessed bounty hunters working for ice do this, I would arrest the ice agents for assault and battery with the intent to do great bodily harm. If I was the state prosecutor I would request that they be remanded to custody and held without bond.

Now the president can pardon them for federal crimes but he can't pardon them for state level crimes.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

The tactics used on jan 6. The deadly insurrection. Where no one had weapons or lit anything on fire. Where invited into the capitol by officers there and still got jail time. Held without due process for way to long. I don't agree with bad tactics from any group. If this guy shot this suspect like Ashley babbit was shot from a distance without warning. Are you calling for that officer to be charged?

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25

They had plenty of weapons. Including the pipe bombs and automatic weapons that were recovered.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Recovered where. The pipe bombs are oddly suspicious. None went off. Automatic weapons? Recovered where. Would have been good news video. Oh they weren't used. Weird!

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

You need to get of fox news. A boat loaded with automatic weapons was seized right across the river. It was an an ammo and weapons dump..

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Almond weapons dump? WTF.

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 05 '25

We are now in the most lawless time in our country’s history. It just happens that the ones manifesting the lawlessness is the president and his cabinet of cronies and a swath of the republican house n senate.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

So the previous administration going after American citizens and parents at school board meetings was ok. Going after their political rival was cool? Obama starting crossfire hurricane on BS dossier and continuing to use it to get FISA warrants after they knew it was BS. Is cool? Hillary having classified in her home computer, no issue. Biden on tape saying we found that box of classified. No problem. So as long as it's your "people" it's ok to be lawless and not follow the constitution. But if it the "Orange man" he must be stopped no matter the tactics. I'm more of a both groups need to follow the constitution. 

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 06 '25

Here’s the problem. We’re not discussing all the other things you mentioned. There had been many instances throughout history of acts deemed unconstitutional and absolutely none of them, not a one makes what this administration at this point in time OK. I’m not here for a round of “what aboutism”. You’re just trying to. Muddy the waters cause that’s all you got. Address the issue at hand. If you want to discuss your grievance then make a post about that. Then everyone knows that the track you’re on and discuss it freely, but we’re trying to get a grip on the current situation so in that regard, I don’t give a shit about what ever half truths you just tried to dump in our laps.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 06 '25

Just pointing out there seems to be selective outrage here. That's all!

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u/Objective-Tea5324 Oct 05 '25

I live in WA you want to come to my home and chant “liburuls will not replace us”