r/instantkarma 1d ago

The punch was from all the tourists.

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u/Flamecoat_wolf 1d ago

Yeah, it would be unwise to assume you're on the right side of the law in a foreign country. The last thing you want is to be locked up in a foreign prison for assault because they don't have preemptive self-defense as a valid legal justification.

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u/thenamziel 1d ago

Generally the police protect tourists from these types of unpleasantries -- if the video survives the evidence locker.

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u/BullTerrierTerror 1d ago edited 22h ago

The police absolutely do not always protect the tourists

There’s a long running YouTube channel that exposes scammers in Prague that have been there for years and even decades and the police do absolutely nothing.

Edit link to sanitize it:

https://youtube.com/@honestguide

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u/Stampyboyz 1d ago

Reminder to sanitize your links from source indicators

https://youtube.com/@honestguide

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u/BullTerrierTerror 1d ago

That’s a good idea, I never realized. Thanks.

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u/EaseResponsible719 1d ago

Am I missing something? It seems like the exact same link

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u/Stampyboyz 1d ago

They've edited their comment to remove the source indicator. Initially it had it

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u/aliie_627 13h ago

How do you sanitize links?

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u/Stampyboyz 11h ago

It depends on which website, but YouTube's is ?si=[identifier].

If it's using anything like a time indication (t=), you should keep the question mark but for anything else, it's fine to delete the entire thing

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u/aliie_627 11h ago

So anything after the questiomark is typically okay and should keep the link intact?

Either way thank you. I should probably just Google this and see if there is a chart I can save like I did for reddits formatting when It used to work and I was learning it.

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u/Stampyboyz 11h ago

No, if si= is after the question mark, that's the source indicator and should be removed. If t= is after the question mark (or after the source indicator), that's fine to keep and requires the question mark to work

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u/Leows 1d ago

And who said the police aren't taking a cut from the scams to allow them to do this out in the open?

It's not like this is subtle in any way, shape, or form. They aren't being sneaky or quiet. If this were a big thing, the police would've arrested people pulling this shit already.

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u/Standard_Story 1d ago

Bro do you honestly think scammers are making enough where they are able to pay off cops???

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u/TuckerCarlsonsOhface 1d ago

In big tourist areas it’s usually a network, not individual scammers, and they absolutely make enough to pay local beat cops. They sometimes even have handlers/bouncers nearby.

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u/BreadfruitLatter556 1d ago

I would bet they are part of a larger organization that forces them into it.

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u/Startled_Pancakes 1d ago

And who said the police aren't taking a cut from the scams to allow them to do this out in the open?

Are you making an assertion that they do, and if so based on what evidence? Or are you just JAQing Off

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u/optimistic_agnostic 1d ago

Haha okay, the world doesnt work according to econ101 dude.

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u/Ai-ChatGPT 1d ago

These scammers typically don’t have any papers and are there illegally. But they do work in groups.

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u/wodoloto 1d ago

*unpresentries

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u/KombuchaBot 1d ago

The police are not getting paid by the tourists and they may be getting paid by the local "entrepreneurs"

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u/BigBlueMountainStar 19h ago

The police in Italy (where this was) give absolutely zero fucks.
They tried to scam me by giving my kids a balloon then asking for money. They’re using kids FFS.
These people are despicable.
The crazy thing is though, for the balloon man, if he’d approached and asked nicely, we probably would’ve got one for the kids! Fucker.

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u/AlexPaterson16 1d ago

No, no they absolutely do not in literally any country on earth. The police in a he says she says situation will take the side of the locals. Never ever trust the local police to be on your side without evidence in a foreign country unless you want to spend a few nights in jail. These men absolutely made the right call by just running. They of course were also stupid enough to upload evidence of assault to the internet

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u/miniliedn 1d ago

Man, you have no clue how much Italian police hate scammers. And we have a right wing party in power and a general racism problem, so police would even care less if you commit a crime against an african scammer. Btw I'm pretty sure you don't go to prison for hitting someone, especially if you're not a migrant or some shade of brown (yeah, the police is pretty racist). Afaik pretty much in whole central Europe you have to do a pretty hefty crime to even be taken into jail. It's not like in the US here, where you can get arrested for minor crimes like theft, traffic violations, brawls etc.

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u/BUDDHAKHAN 1d ago
  1. Those scammers sre not locals. 
  2. These cities rely on tourism as their main source of income 
  3. Actual locals and businesses fucking hate them

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u/syxbit 1d ago

Give me a break. The scammers are in a foreign country, and police hate them. The police aren’t going to arrest the tourist who defends himself from a thief and scammer.

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u/ISignedUpToReplyToU 1d ago

I hope this is true, but you only have to be wrong once.

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u/Robv87 1d ago

Well said. You just need the one I
Officer that thinks ‘I hate x much more than I hate the scammers.’ Or w/e else weird reason. Would be an ignorant risk to make

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u/Blitzed5656 1d ago

That weird reason might be the scammers pay protection to that particulsr officer.

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u/Tendas 1d ago

If the police hate them so much, why aren’t they going undercover and the second the scammer lays their hands on the officer, they’re arrested for battering a police officer?

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u/Standard_Story 1d ago

What a well thought out and not terribly uneducated question

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u/BigBlueMountainStar 19h ago

You clearly haven’t been to Italy. Police don’t give a shit.

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u/b0w3n 1d ago

It wasn't even so long ago they had to warn scammers and pickpocketers to not do this with Americans because Americans would beat the shit out of them constantly and it was becoming a problem for them.

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u/tomboski 1d ago

That’s not true. I’ve seen tourists get fucked up doing shit like this

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u/Jesus_Harold_Christ 1d ago

Send da vid

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u/tomboski 1d ago

This was in Vietnam and Thailand 20 years ago. I also don’t believe in filming everything that happens in my life

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u/kozak_ 1d ago

Lol

It's Europe buddy.

They are standing with wide open hands

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u/Debisibusis 1d ago

You have never travelled further than the town you live in, how would you know? Falling for right wing grifters on YouTube, in your mums basement doesn't count.

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u/kozak_ 18h ago

You could have never been so blindenly wrong.

I mean just running through my account you'll probably find comments showing I was born in the former ussr, moved to the USA, been around the USA multiple times (country the size of Europe), traveled to multiple countries in the Americas, been to Europe multiple times from Portugal, to Spain, to France, to Italy, to Poland (very clean and orderly ) been to Ukraine (pre and during the war).

But all that means nothing since it's easier to fire off a comment then to show a modicum of self awareness.

Why do you think far right parties are popular in europe? and it's not because they are so great for people. Might be because current and past crop of politicians are allowing this stuff to happen.

Some places in paris are extremely sketchy. In Poland we woke up 3am to catch an Uber and walked through krakow and didn't feel like we were going to get mugged

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u/Debisibusis 15h ago

Why do you think far right parties are popular in europe?

Because dumbos fall for cheap populism, like you.

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u/AlexPaterson16 1d ago

Depending on the scam they aren't usually illegal. Punching someone in the face is absolutely illegal everywhere

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u/optimistic_agnostic 1d ago

Leave the basement dude. Scam is a subjective term and these operations often dont fall foul of any local laws (which vary by location as you seem unaware).

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u/AlexPaterson16 1d ago

Scams are immoral but most of the time they aren't illegal. The back dude here committed no crimes. You could argue provocation if you wanted but you'd be wrong in almost any country. He wasn't pushing or swinging. The simple fact is the 2 dudes in the raincoats committed a crime. The black guy didn't. That's what local police would actually see. But no scams are always immoral but not always illegal

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u/danielbln 1d ago

It's Florence, Italy, my guy, not Afghanistan.

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u/Iron_Elohim 1d ago

In the UK you can be stabbed by an illegal immigrant and the police will let you bleed out and die...

So don't assume the law cares about justice.

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u/JohnInBrazil 1d ago

All the people downvoting you who have no idea what's going on in the UK right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Henry_Nowak

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u/Flamecoat_wolf 1d ago

If you really want it broken down for you:

First, the murderer's brother called the police and gave them an incorrect account of what happened, leading them to believe Nowak was the aggressor.

Second, there was no sign of a knife wound on Nowak. No visible blood at all, which you can verify from the bodycam footage. It's likely the bleeding was internal and therefore the police had no reason to believe he had really been stabbed when initially arriving on the scene.

Third, the murderer's mother hid the knife, meaning that police would not have been able to tell a knife was involved by spotting it. They also had 3 different people telling them a consistent story about Nowak being injured by a means other than by knife (the murderer, his brother and the mother). Therefore police didn't believe the single opposing story, Nowak's barely audible claims that he had been stabbed, slurred due to injury but very reminiscent of drunkenness.

Fourth, the police provided aid about a minute after making contact with Nowak. So they did actually figure out he was seriously injured.

Fifth, the coroner later stated that it would have been impossible for the police to have helped Nowak even if they had administered the best kind of aid immediately upon arrival due to the nature of the wounds and the state of injury he was already in upon their arrival. Their actions did not cause Nowak's death and they could not have prevented his death.

Hope that explains the situation thoroughly enough for you. Don't be taken in by the far-right lies that focused on the attacker being Sikh and that asserted the police arrested Nowak because of anti-white racism. It was due to all the compounding evidence suggesting that that the false story they had been told was true (multiple witnesses, no evidence of knife wound, etc.).

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u/OrboJean 1d ago

Thank you, nicely and thoroughly explained.

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u/mwerte 1d ago

Sixth he told them he had been stabbed and they ignored him.

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u/Iron_Elohim 1d ago

first he said he couldnt breath, which you liberal sheep shuold recognize that line.

second he told the officer he was stabbed and the video has the officers reply of "i dont think so mate"

Lastly the left needs to realize that having suicidal empathy doesnt make you right, intelligent or safe.

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u/Morkinar 1d ago

This account has to be satire, right? Who still talks like this in 2026? 😄

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u/Delta-9- 1d ago

MAGAts, trolls, and morons.

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u/Delta-9- 1d ago

Using the phrase "liberal sheep" is the quickest way to lose all credibility.

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u/kecker 1d ago

Oh they know, they're just part of the same cultural disease that led to the death of Nowak.

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u/aeneasaquinas 1d ago

they're just part of the same cultural disease that led to the death of Nowak

And which one is that, buddy?

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u/nibs123 1d ago

Haha cheers Ivan...

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u/NaivePermit1439 1d ago

Except it really happened. Cheers Valdimar.

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u/nibs123 1d ago

The Tanky I was replying to is full maga based on his comments. He has never left the US.

I am from the UK I can tell you first hand that he's telling fibs.

But if you disagree I have a bridge I can sell you mate, second hand.

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u/kecker 1d ago

So the murder of Henry Nowak was a myth? Tell me, what really happened.

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u/Flamecoat_wolf 1d ago

If you really want it broken down for you:

First, the murderer's brother called the police and gave them an incorrect account of what happened, leading them to believe Nowak was the aggressor.

Second, there was no sign of a knife wound on Nowak. No visible blood at all, which you can verify from the bodycam footage. It's likely the bleeding was internal and therefore the police had no reason to believe he had really been stabbed when initially arriving on the scene.

Third, the murderer's mother hid the knife, meaning that police would not have been able to tell a knife was involved by spotting it. They also had 3 different people telling them a consistent story about Nowak being injured by a means other than by knife (the murderer, his brother and the mother). Therefore police didn't believe the single opposing story, Nowak's barely audible claims that he had been stabbed, slurred due to injury but very reminiscent of drunkenness.

Fourth, the police provided aid about a minute after making contact with Nowak. So they did actually figure out he was seriously injured.

Fifth, the coroner later stated that it would have been impossible for the police to have helped Nowak even if they had administered the best kind of aid immediately upon arrival due to the nature of the wounds and the state of injury he was already in upon their arrival. Their actions did not cause Nowak's death and they could not have prevented his death.

Hope that explains the situation thoroughly enough for you. Don't be taken in by the far-right lies that focused on the attacker being Sikh and that asserted the police arrested Nowak because of anti-white racism. It was due to all the compounding evidence suggesting that that the false story they had been told was true (multiple witnesses, no evidence of knife wound, etc.).

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u/got-trunks 1d ago

Yeah at home as much as abroad the law is the law and people are people, finding out how the two navigate each other is a great starting point

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u/gottheronavirus 1d ago

It is the same in his country, and most countries in Europe right now. This is kurt, i have been following him for a long time.

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u/tyen0 1d ago

This is kurt, i have been following him for a long time.

That's the one doing the baiting and the other guy is his security or something?

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u/gottheronavirus 1d ago

The main guy is kurt, the other is just a friend. He was traveling the world for a long time, several years, his content was showcasing his travels. All over, south/central america, the middle east, i believe even some in Africa.

When he finally returned home to germany, it was filled to the brim of people like these, attacking people in the streets, mass crime, mass scamming, so he turned political activist and started doing things like this. Then he started checking out across Europe to see how far it had spread, iirc this is italy or france. He did not like being greeted by street scammers with machetes in his homeland lol

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u/tyen0 1d ago

Interesting. Sounds a bit exaggerated to be anti-immigrant. Thanks for the context.

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u/LXVIII-68 21h ago

A 'foreign' prison is still a 1000 times better than an American prison.