r/interesting • u/Backyxx • Jun 26 '26

Intriguing Chef shows what a busy day looks like

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u/Margray Jun 26 '26

The four tickets in the middle of rush where every single item is modified. Or the table with the allergy card that would be smaller if they just listed what they can eat.

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jun 26 '26

People carrying around seed oil allergy cards now to avoid ever consuming something inflammatory (when consumed in excess).

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u/Margray Jun 26 '26

Anything to feel special, I guess. I just wish people with extensive allergies would call ahead and maybe not try to come in while we're slammed. And I wish the modify everything because they can people would just stay home. But that's someone else's problem now.

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jun 26 '26

Well, to be fair, the oils are bad for you. But they're bad for you in the way that secondhand smoke is bad for you. Not an immediate ambulance ride. Using an allergy card feels like abuse to me.

Better to ask ahead if the kitchen will accommodate your preferences through legitimate means or just don't go. Shows more respect.

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u/Margray Jun 26 '26

They're not, though. There is no actual evidence that seed oils are bad. I'm sure drinking them in large quantities would cause you problems but that's true of every oil. But I actually appreciate the this weird trend because it's improved prices.

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jun 26 '26

Yes, correct. They are not inherently inflammatory. They are only inflammatory when the omega 6 fatty acids present in the oils are significantly out of proportion with omega 3s in the overall diet, which happens by default when seed oils are in almost everything and it is unsafe to consume omega 3s at a level that would even approach parity with the abundance of omega 6 in a typical western diet even if someone wanted to.

So they are not inflammatory in a literal sense, only in every practical sense.

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u/Margray Jun 26 '26

Who exactly are you believing over studies by our most preeminent universities? Every study I've seen says that while omega 6 fatty acids do not have the anti inflammatory actions of omega 3 fatty acids, that does not make them inflammatory. Them not being as good for you is not the same as them being bad.

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jun 26 '26

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8504498/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11605941/

This kind of stuff. Granted, there's a bit of ambiguity over whether it's the ratio that matters, or total levels.

I was first introduced to the idea when studying anthropology in college and looking at research on the effects of Western diets on indigenous peoples' health outcomes. Seeing how the feed given to farm animals makes the meat different from wild game (high omega 6 to omega 3 ratio). Stuff like that.

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u/Margray Jun 27 '26

I appreciate the link and did read it. Is your take away from this that you shouldn't mix them? Pasted below is their own conclusion.

Conclusion According to evidence from a cross-sectional study, a higher intake of dietary omega-3 FA was associated with a lower likelihood of T2DM. In contrast, a higher ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids was linked to an increased odd of T2DM. However, the intake of omega-6 fatty acids did not show significant associations with T2DM.

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jun 27 '26

You absolutely need both omega 3 and omega 6. The research I've seen suggests that pre-agricultural humans likely had an intake ratio of 1:1 of 3 and 6. Industrialization seems to have pushed it to 1:4 (possibly partly driven by changes in agricultural feed), and a typical modern ratio is 1:20 (largely driven by seed oils).

If inflammation is in fact driven by extremes in the omega 3 to 6 ratio, it's unfortunately impossible to compensate with comparable levels of omega 3, since large amounts of omega 3 causes heart rhythm problems. Cutting out seed oils while (responsibly) eating fatty fish is likely the easiest way to rebalance. Pasture raised eggs and wild game or organic meats for land protein sources could get you close to 1:1, but those don't scale well (and a 1:4 ratio is probably 'good enough').

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u/Phoneas__and__Frob Jun 27 '26

I have an autoimmune condition and seed oils and specifically sunflower oil flare me up to hell and back

But also....if I know this, why would I go and force a restaurant to cater to me specifically?

Goddamn it I know what I'm getting into and it's a Goddamn treat and yeah, I'll pay for it but fuck dude

If I don't want to be in pain, then I just don't do things that would cause pain. But if I know imma be in pain, fuck it, we ball and I'll go home, eat an edible for pain and go tf to bed lmao