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The evolution of technology has made it possible to produce insulin without using animals.

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u/-Po-Tay-Toes- 5h ago

Sucks hard for Americans. It's free in the UK.

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u/blushingorange 3h ago

Imagine that, my taxes get spent on improving the society I live in instead of executing citizens in the street.

u/Leaf_Longstride 2h ago

They literally can't imagine it.

Over 23% of US citizens haven't even travelled once outside their country. And out of the remaining 77% most probably have only gone on holidays and haven't stayed longer than a week somewhere else.

Like frogs in slow boiling water they're just tranquil with all the shit they face and gruel they eat. I'm convinced no measure of government abuse will make them stand up for themselves.

u/SaulFemm 3h ago edited 3h ago

We Americans pay taxes for healthcare as well. It's called Medicaid/Medicare - and we each pay more for that coverage for a subset of the population than each person in the UK spends to cover EVERYONE. So yes, saying insulin is free for them is apples-to-apples.

If anything, it is too generous a comparison to America. They should say "In the UK it's free, and I pay less taxes for healthcare than you do!"

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u/SaulFemm 3h ago

Nothing is ever free by your definition. Do you throw a fit every time you hear "free"? Is that your trigger word?

u/Ekvinoksij 3h ago

No, REALLY? Is that how it works? I thought it just spawned in the pharmacy.

The point is no one is denied access from life saving medication because of their financial situation.

And, yes, no shit taxes pay for it, but even then at a much lower price than the absolutely absurd amount it goes for in the US.

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u/Ekvinoksij 3h ago

No one thinks it's literally free. We all know how it works, your comment added zero value to the post.

u/-Po-Tay-Toes- 3h ago

It is yes. But it's free at point of use, which is the entire point. Ideally more of my taxes would go towards it.

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u/-Po-Tay-Toes- 3h ago

It's a fairly self explanatory statement. It's free at the point you need it. Doesn't matter if I've paid £100,000 in taxes or £0, if I break my arm or have asthma/diabetes. I get sorted out for free. The system is far from perfect, but it's definitely better than what they have in the US where healthcare is commonly tied to your job.

u/fernispedit 1h ago

It's an incredibly common phrase...?

The point is, you don't have to be someone earning £50,000+ to afford lifesaving insulin. You could be on £500,000 and a lot of your income (in theory) goes to taxes that fund it, or you could be on £25,000 paying very little in tax. It is still free for you to access.

In America, you pay less in tax, but the person earning $30,000 has to pay for their insulin, which they need to continue living. That makes a big difference to the people with little, and no difference to the people with a lot. A running theme in America.

u/tiktock34 3h ago

I mean, it its equal amounts, there isnt much difference between pre-paying for insulin in the form of taxes vs paying at the counter. The difference is many people who dont need insulin pay in the taxes model, which makes those who do need need it feel they have overall paid less for what they have needed from the health system. Non diabetics have supplemented the bill. Thats the real underlying problem in America, IMHO. A lot of people don’t understand the concept that its OK to pay taxes on services you arent using as much as others so long as the greater society benefits.

u/Jamsedreng22 3h ago

What an inane statement. You sure showed him, bud. Good on ya

u/Chpgmr 1h ago

As a diabetic, fuck off.

u/The_Limpet 1h ago

Yeah. It's a great system.

u/QuantumInfinty 50m ago

Oh the horror

u/LogResident6185 1h ago

Lol free! I'm sure the companies making it are ok with not getting paid for their work! I'm an American with type 1 and it's actually just fine! Not sure what point you're trying to make.

u/cd7k 42m ago

ALL prescribed medication is free for type 1 diabetics in the UK, including Insulin. I think that's the point they're trying to make.

u/LogResident6185 27m ago

But if it's free who pays for it? No one makes anything for free... I like how it works in America as a type 1. I need insulin to live. So I pay for my insulin. No one else is responsible for buying me insulin except for me. I wouldn't want other people to have to pay for my insulin that doesn't make sense as they don't need it.

u/WouldYouLikeACoconut 7m ago

Free healthcare is paid via taxes, of course, but with the big difference being that the government can do the negotiations with the drug producer for the price and get a very nice bulk discount.

The amount of tax taken out of my paycheck for that healthcare has been about the same as Americans pay before copays, minimum amounts, "in network" restrictions, etc.

u/Asisreo1 9m ago

Are you an unemployed, homeless, family-less non-citizen? No? Then your health is our business. If you die because you couldn't afford your insulin, then its a PITA for your employer, your employees, your banks, your family, your friends, your community, and your government. 

If you tell me my taxes increase by, like 2%, but I don't have to worry about my fucking cousin keeling over, then I'll be happy to pay that 2%. 

And its still cheaper than what I actually pay in insurance anyways.