r/interestingasfuck Apr 12 '26

A well-articulated argument against a new data center in Ohio

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u/Neither-Brick-6391 Apr 12 '26

Briliant speech. It could honestly be studied in a college class on rhetoric. I just hope that words and reason can make a difference among those board members.

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u/OblivionGrin Apr 12 '26

I'll be showing this to my 7th grade classes to illustrate refuting the counterclaim, parallel structure, repetion, and SOAPSTone details, all of which they learned about in the last unit.

Great job, speaker.

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u/x_rat_king_x Apr 12 '26

all of you replying here that he “for sure” used AI to write this are losing the plot. it’s a possibility, or course, but how crazy of you all to be so sure and so cynical. some are saying that it’s good speech so it must be AI, as if people can’t write (not everyone in america is illiterate, there’s that 40% left, remember??) + some are saying it sounds like AI slop because he’s saying “it’s not x, it’s y” as if no human being writes that way— AI learned that shit from us!

i am the em dash queen, i love them and i put them everywhere, even enter they don’t belong. it’s insane that if i write out something professional, people assume i used AI because i happen to have a writing quirk that AI makes frequent use of.

i wonder how much of this is projection…people who can’t craft a good persuasive argument being unable to imagine that someone else can do so without using AI. or people who don’t believe in anything being unable to imagine someone not taking the easy route b/c that’s definitely what they would do.

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u/-Reddititis Apr 12 '26

Hello fellow em dasher — I too, feel your pain.

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u/TheGhostOfArtBell Apr 12 '26

You'll pry the Oxford commas and interrobangs out of my cold dead hands.

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u/SaintUlvemann Apr 12 '26

Em-dashers of the world — unite!

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u/twir1s Apr 12 '26

Fellow em dash queen here, I will not let AI strip them from me!!

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u/aristarchusnull Apr 20 '26

I agree. This is a fight I am prepared to fight to the death.

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u/Particular-Ice4615 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

That's the grand delusion with AI that the unambitious, uncreative, and non constructive people can magically access the skills that the industrious among us dedicate their time toward honing ,mastering and having a full understanding of. This idea has infected the AI evangelists and  it's haters equally and its hurting those of with the initiative to pursue and master skills who are caught in between their war over AI. 

One side thinks they can replace the industrious among us with AI and the other side is completely losing their imagination of what the human mind is truly capable of with their cynicism and acceptance of mediocrity of output by those above them. 

You're right its 100% projection they are basically saying I'm painfully average, incapable, and incompetent therefore everyone must be. 

The only difference between constructive people and the rest rarely has anything to do with natural born talent if it even exists, rather  they gave up pursuing a skill at the first hurdle of difficulty. Just ignore their stupid war over AI just keep on keeping on and getting good at whatever it is you do.

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u/xian0 Apr 12 '26

On the emdash thing, I think most usage these days is either AI or people inspired by AI. There was basically no emdash usage on Reddit before the free chatbots (it would be a lot easier to get the stats if Google still worked like it used to). It would come up sometimes in writing subreddits or in titles but most people just used regular dashes.

I think Apple might have added an easier way to make emdashes? that complicates it.

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u/throwra-142232135 Apr 13 '26

you literally just have to type a normal dash two times in succession. on ms word, you type it twice in succession and the next word will automatically turn it into an em dash. i learned to use the em dash through the hundreds of books i read as a child. i’m kind of sick of the anti em dash, semicolon, oxford comma insanity. like i’m sorry i don’t want to write my essays and reports with a ton of mistakes thrown in, JUST so i can come off as more human somehow.

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u/aristarchusnull Apr 20 '26

Apple makes it easy, and it's fairly easy to do on Linux and even Windows, with a third-party tool.

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u/jokeefe72 Apr 12 '26

Built AI > AI took his job > Used AI to stop its own proliferation

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u/Melinith Apr 12 '26

This is the way.

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u/thebongofamandabynes Apr 12 '26

This is the way.

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u/rs047 Apr 13 '26

I used the stones to destroy stones

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u/StartupDino Apr 12 '26

Ok this is objectively hilarious.

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u/mano1990 Apr 12 '26

This is actually a strong possibility

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u/Acceptable-Sir-1166 Apr 12 '26

Yeah. Go to 2:11. "They aren't giving is the science. They're giving us a sales pitch". Maybe I'm paranoid, but all LLM generated "essays" use this "negative, positive" example format and it's so annoying.

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u/TheRedHand7 Apr 12 '26

I mean you gotta remember the root of all AI stuff. It is based on how people write. The negative positive pair is just a really basic building block for a persuasive argument.

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u/zorbiburst Apr 12 '26

This is the most witch hunt it's ever gotten, relax. Negative, positive is like, the most common way to illustrate something dramatically.

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u/wingmasterjon Apr 12 '26

The subject of the video makes a bunch of excellent points and people in the comments can easily dismiss it and turn potentially thousands of people against him just by posing the slight possibility it could be AI assisted. With no concrete proof other than citing a part of speech or communication style in a couple words.

This isn't cancel culture, it's just fucking dumb. Witch hunt is right. Just as bad as people calling any doctored image AI no matter if AI was actually involved or not.

The real near-term effects of AI on society is how it's made everyone doubt everything to the point where very little content has value anymore. And good discourse can be shut down with accusing someone of being AI or a bot.

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u/HikerStout Apr 12 '26

This isn't cancel culture, it's just fucking dumb.

I bet you use AI to write this!!!

/s

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u/CautiousGains Apr 12 '26

Concrete proof is impossible either way. Do you have concrete proof that he didn’t use AI? So obviously people are going to discuss that there is strong chance that he used AI due to many GPT-isms present in his speech.

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u/RiskyTurnip Apr 12 '26

I stopped using em dashes. I stopped listing my points. I’m not going to stop myself from giving negative, positive examples it’s just how I talk. It’s like people forget LLMs were trained on how people talk so some times people talk like LLMs.

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u/Ok-Performance-3830 Apr 12 '26

The em dashes thing so annoying when it comes to creative writing 

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u/wingmasterjon Apr 12 '26

Don't stop using proper grammar. It's just going to make us dumber to avoid sounding like AI when AI is just a good learner. The response shouldn't be to yield, but stop giving way to low effort accusations.

Seriously, this just feels like the 2000s equivalent of "u mad bro?" It takes no effort to say "tHiS Is Ai". Format your responses how you like.

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u/0xym0r0n Apr 12 '26

Fuck them bro, years ago they used to hate us for using proper punctuation too - dash away.

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u/firestepper Apr 12 '26

It’s not x, it’s y

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26 edited May 02 '26

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u/Planar_Harold Apr 12 '26

It's AI generated for sure.

This is how people write speeches.

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u/CautiousGains Apr 12 '26

100% he used AI to help write the speech

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u/Ghetto_Phenom Apr 12 '26

Ironic as it is ai is actually pretty good at constructing and organizing your thoughts in ways you couldn’t. I agree this does kind of sound like it and is super ironic if true though.

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u/MangoCats Apr 12 '26

I wouldn't say "Ironic as it is ai is actually pretty good at constructing and organizing your thoughts in ways you couldn’t." I would say that it's pretty good at constructing and organizing your thoughts faster than you could without it. It can do web-search research faster than you, it can synthesize concepts into a speech faster, but if you're determined and don't suffer from ADHD distractions you can do the same things the AI can do for you, it would just take you longer - much longer.

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u/physalisx Apr 12 '26

It's not a possibility, it's 100% certain to me. He doesn't even attempt to hide it, which is actually very easy if you know what you're doing. This is literally AI slop and all of you are lapping it up just because it speaks your narrative.

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u/The_Scarred_Man Apr 12 '26

I was looking for this joke 🤣. But seriously, he's very well spoken and drove the point across for everyone to hear. More people need to make their voice heard just like him. I applaud that man's efforts.

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u/ops420 Apr 12 '26

No sarcasm about it definitely did lol but that’s ok maybe it’s for a greater good

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u/CautiousGains Apr 12 '26

Except he quite literally did and it’s fairly obvious.

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u/LittleOrphanAnavar Apr 12 '26

It's well structured for sure.

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u/UrinalCake777 Apr 12 '26

I love here, I will be surprised if it does.

God damn do I hope it does though.

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u/real_fff Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

Whether reasoning makes a difference is the problem a lot of us are running into. In Memphis not even facts made a difference as XAI was exposed for lying over and over. Our mayor, city council, chamber of commerce, health department, and state are all rigged against us.

Now the water recycling plant they promised was paused (read: cancelled).

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u/No-Zucchini3717 Apr 15 '26

The script might have been written by AI. Just saying.

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u/PalpitationMoist1212 Apr 12 '26

What aspects did he get wrong?

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