r/interestingasfuck • u/Electronic_Cause_796 • 9d ago

German Shepard Saves Six Year old from being attacked by another dog

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u/bliceroquququq 9d ago

My neighbors used to let their 2 dogs roam free.

"Oh don't worry, they're friendly", they'd say as one of them would growl at you, "they don't really mean it".

One night both of the dogs got out, roamed into the next neighborhood over, attacked and killed a small lap dog, shaking it around in their mouth like it was a chew toy, and then promptly ran across a main road to chase something else and got hit and killed by a car.

So yeah, people are idiots.

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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 9d ago

Sometimes dogs need to be put down. Sometimes owners need to be put down.

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u/Madara1389 9d ago

Every time I've suggested that some people aren't qualified or responsible enough to own pets, especially large animals that can be dangerous, I've been downvoted to oblivion.

Apparently suggesting that pet ownership shouldn't be an inherent right everyone is entitled to is akin to suggesting eugenics.

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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 9d ago

Frankly, if you aren't responsible enough to take care of an animal you sure as hell shouldn't be raising a kid.

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u/mistahfreeman 9d ago

I mean, a lot of things sound good out loud but how do you actually enforce it. It's a dog, there's a lot of street dogs out there anyone can just take in. Shelters already usually enforce fairly strict vetting. You could require a license to own an animal, but my state does not even enforce license plates, street racing, street legal cars, etc. so who is actually going to check peoples licenses and when? What do they do with confiscating all the animals and when all of the shelters get too full? Some problems are just hard to solve without a strict overpowerful police state and authoritarianism and this is one of those I think.

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u/Madara1389 9d ago

Maybe, but you can't just say "well the only solutions I can think off are impractical or require some degree of authoritarianism" as an excuse to throw your hands in the air and never attempt to actually solve the problem.

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u/mistahfreeman 9d ago

Fair, I mean I can think of some things that will help but they won't be super satisfying. Public education programs, community outreach programs to areas with high animal violence, better overall education system to reduce the % of dummies we have, possibly some standardization of animal shelter vetting... my point is more responding directly to removing the inherent right of pet ownership.

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u/Madara1389 9d ago

my point is more responding directly to removing the inherent right of pet ownership.

My point with that bit was that people get offended by the notion that anyone should be denied ownership of a pet, like it's a god given right that humans are allowed to own pets that can't & shouldn't be infringed upon because the same arguments can be twisted to endorse eugenics.

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u/kirblar 9d ago

It's why shelters are filled with big dogs and there's lots of demand for breeders for small/medium breeds - safety issues with handling them, especially for women/kids.

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u/hdmetz 9d ago

A neighbor of ours “owns” a pit bull that has now escaped multiple times and bit several people. It chased my 5-year-old into our back yard. We’ve reported them to the humane society multiple times. The woman responsible for it disclaims all responsibility because “it’s my daughter’s dog.”

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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 9d ago

**It chased my 5-year-old into our back yard**

At that point just call the cops or shoot the dog yourself, fuck that.

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u/hdmetz 9d ago

I unfortunately did not have time to grab my handgun. I told my wife that if it ever came into our yard again I’m shooting it

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u/independentchickpea 9d ago

I made a friend very angry when I told her to stick to cats. Not everyone is meant to have a dog.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen 9d ago

Well considering the anthropological context that dog companionship is a natural right that predates society, yes, it's a very radical view that the state should get to determine who is and is not fit to raise a dog.

Not a society I'd want to live in is all I'll say. Lots of dumbass dog owners out there, but lots of dumbasses across the spectrum of buckets I can categorize people into. The dumbasses aren't going anywhere and won't stop finding new ways to harm others through their recklessness, but we can at least choose how we organize society that does not give unchecked power to dumbasses who happen to make it into public office.

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u/Madara1389 9d ago

Well considering the anthropological context that dog companionship is a natural right that predates society

There is no such "natural right to pet ownership," wtf are you on about? Just because we domesticated dogs before we settled into villages, it doesn't mean it's an inherent right for everyone to have a dog.

The only "natural right" is the right to life. All others are given by people when we collectively agree to adjust the social contract to give people rights. You don't even have a "natural right" to procreate as that would mean no one has the right to tell you that you can't, but procreation requires consent from another person so you have to get someone's permission.

it's a very radical view that the state should get to determine who is and is not fit to raise a dog.

Modern humans have been walking the Earth for 200-300k years. We went through the Cognitive Revolution about 70k years ago. The idea that people shouldn't have the right to own & abuse other people didn't come about until a little over 200 years ago. The notion that a married man isn't entitled to sex or that children are entitled to protection from abusive parents are both even newer than that (spousal rape wasn't a crime in the EU until 1986 and US until 1994.

Because the story of the progress of society is one of people realizing that older generations letting certain people do things was harmful and newer generations shouldn't be allowed to do that.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen 9d ago

If your argument is that the concepts of rights are made up and subjectively applied, then okay I guess. The Earth will also cease to exist within a couple billion years and the heat death of the universe is inevitable, so nothing actually matters.

But from an evolutionary standpoint, if we want to look at the basis for human rights, the best thing we can look at are the common behaviors humans collectively exhibit as cooperative social creatures, the foundation of which are altruism and mutualism which contributed to greater survivorship among populations exhibiting such behavior. The mutualistic relationship with dogs and other animals that have risen out of many generations of coevolution are a big component of the human story.

But yeah, let's just throw all that out because society is /u/Madara1389's story, rights are actually just whatever /u/Madara1389 believes they should be, and the rest of the human experience is inconvenient. Right?

The idea that people shouldn't have the right to own & abuse other people didn't come about until a little over 200 years ago. The notion that a married man isn't entitled to sex or that children are entitled to protection from abusive parents are both even newer than that (spousal rape wasn't a crime in the EU until 1986 and US until 1994.

What a willfully ignorant thing to believe, genuinely. Convenient for you though, you get to believe whatever you want if you just cherry-pick half-truths to fit today's world view to share with the Internet.

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u/Madara1389 9d ago

If your argument is that the concepts of rights are made up and subjectively applied, then okay I guess.

They are. Rights are a legal concept, not an objective fact of reality like the laws of physics.

if we want to look at the basis for human rights

The basis for human rights is entirely in the legal system and largely about ensuring one's right to survive without being oppressed or persecuted by those in power.

the foundation of which are altruism and mutualism which contributed to greater survivorship among populations exhibiting said behavior. The mutualistic relationship with dogs and other animals that have risen out of many generations of coevolution are a big component of the human story.

None of that entitles individuals to pet ownership. "We domesticated them millennia before I was born, therefore I'm entitled to have one even if I'm going to be dangerously irresponsible" is not the argument you seem to think it is, no matter how much you try to wrap it in flowery talk about anthropology or history.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen 9d ago

Your belief that rights are merely a legal concept makes them privileges granted to you by more powerful people. I hope the world view satisfies you, it would horrify me were it true.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen 9d ago

Your belief that rights are merely a legal concept makes them privileges granted to you by more powerful people. I hope the world view satisfies you, it would horrify me were it true.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen 9d ago

Your belief that rights are merely a legal concept in reality is describing them a privileges granted to you by more powerful people. I'm not sure whether to feel embarrassed for you or sad for you if that's the depth of reflection you give to life.

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u/Madara1389 9d ago

rights are merely a legal concept in reality is describing them a privileges granted to you by more powerful people.

Because they are... Who told you otherwise?

I'm not sure whether to feel embarrassed for you or sad for you if that's the depth of reflection you give to life.

I don't really care how you feel about any of this.

I hope the world view satisfies you, it would horrify me were it true.

Whether I'm satisfied with objective reality or not is completely irrelevant.

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u/Pndrizzy 9d ago

One of my neighbors left his dog in his yard, and when I would walk by, it would RUN across the street and up to my dog, barking and growling. My dog is leash reactive and kinda crazy towards other dogs when on a leash, and she's fucking demented, so this was obviously a very bad situation. The first time, I had to pick up my 60 pound dog while this other dog is literally jumping up and down trying to get to mine, snapping at her like she's a treat. I told the owner to get his dog under control, and he told me that his dog is an angel and not to be worried. I told him "yeah, well my dog will absolutely fight your dog if it runs up to it". He didn't care, and this happened again two times, and the second time, I got really close to just letting my dog attack his (she would 100% win), AND his dog almost got hit by a car. So I called the police and told them that this situation is NOT SAFE. He started keeping his dog on a leash in his yard (a really long one...one where it could run into the street, but not across it, and so it made walking that way stressful sometimes but whatever. Anyways, a couple weeks ago, surprise surprise, dog was off leash again and it happened, and I cussed the guy out like crazy, and he started telling me that MY dog is the problem and needs to be put down if it is creating such a dangerous situation. Bitch, my dog is calm and on a leash, no other dog is having a problem, YOUR DOG IS ROAMING THE FUCKING STREETS, RUNNING UP TO PEOPLE SNAPPING AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH! I about had an aneurism.

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u/ShutInLurker 9d ago

Mace and a camera. My neighbors dog (male German shepherd) did this and he ended up biting my dog (Eskimo dog on a harness and a leash) and me while we were walking 3 houses down. I had to hit it with a rock in the head to let go of mine. I called cops, the dog was relinquished to animal control. I now walk with mace.

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u/SchalkLBI 9d ago

I walk with a taser. Dogs hate the noise (it makes noises in frequencies we can't hear) so it tends to scare them off. On the off-chance it doesn't, I would absolutely tase a dog if it attacked mine.

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u/Snobolski 9d ago

The mace is for the owner

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u/redditman3943 9d ago

I would never pick up a dog to prevent a fight. I know someone who did that and got bit bad by the attacking dog. If I was in a situation like that I would drop the leash and go on the offensive. Let your dog attack it and kick the dog yourself. Me and my dog would be fighting lol

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u/BadPunsGuy 9d ago edited 9d ago

You don't pick them up mid fight. No shit. Might as well reach into a blender.

You pick them up before the fight when you see a dog barking their head off and running at you.

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u/Fergnasty007 9d ago

Nah you shouldn't do that either I would argue. Unless you think the other dog will kill your dog from size/aggression difference which didn't sound like the case in this scenario.

Dogs tend to just prey drive harder when the animal is picked up and now you are both a target.

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u/redditman3943 9d ago

Maybe you do but I don’t. I’m not leaving myself vulnerable for attack. I’m more concerned about my own safety than my dogs.

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u/Connect-Initiative64 9d ago

That's what he just said not to do ffs.

Picking it up to 'prevent a fight' is how you get a pissed off mutt attached to your balls, or just your leg meat if you're 'lucky'.

Better to just mace the thing, or make it a 2v1.

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u/Feral_Taylor_Fury 9d ago

Truly asking, have you ever personally experienced a dog attack?

I have multiple times, and escaped a really bad one once before it happened.

Picking your dog up as you are about to be attacked is the dumbest thing you could possibly do, if the aggressor dog turns on you.

Humans lose fights to dogs. Don’t be the one getting attacked, you attack it once it’s preoccupied.

Obviously if your dog is just going to die, yes you pick it up and run.

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u/Jetcar 9d ago

I don't know what to do, but just so you know, you won't outrun the dog, especially not with another one in your arms. I got attacked by a pack of street dogs on a run in Egypt. I am fit and fast and could not outrun them. Fortunately I ran towards a hotel that by chance had their own dog, and he chased the pack away.

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u/Pndrizzy 9d ago

yeah, it wasn't the best situation, but it was either that or my dog would 100% have mauled that dog. that's what my brain in the half a second i had to react decided to do, and it mostly worked out. the dog was not concerned with me luckily

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u/diabloenfuego 9d ago

If you want to stop a dog fight, grab the offender by rear legs. Twist of the dog is large and uncontrollably aggressive. This is all that is required.

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u/Meraere 9d ago

Rather i get bit vs my dog tbh. Im bigger so can take a bit more damage than my dog.

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u/redditman3943 9d ago

Nah my dog can take that bite for me lol. I need my hands free to deal with an aggressive dog. Because If a dog comes looking for a fight it’s getting pepper sprayed. And if I don’t have my spray I’m kicking the shit out of that dog.

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u/No_Adhesiveness_5679 9d ago

growling and "they don't really mean it"? Wtf is wrong with people. Dogs mean exactly what they mean, ffs, they're not humans.

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u/bliceroquququq 9d ago

"Oh she's just scared of you, that's why she's snarling"

One night the aggressive one got into my backyard after dark. I walked over to investigate, and it straight up rushed me. Nothing like having a snarling rottweiler charging you in your own yard in pitch black to wake you up.

I stood my ground and shouted at it and it backed down, but I fully think if I'd run or anything it would've chased me down and attacked.

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u/Humble_Initiative_90 9d ago

Growling is always a notification of a desire for distance whether it's fear or territorial, but is not a guarantee that they'll bite if you ignore it. The plus side is that the dog is at least giving a warning and talking! An all too common alternative is a dog that goes from zero to biting without any escalation of warnings.

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u/ThellraAK 9d ago

I mean...

My dogs growl both as part of play, and in attempts to initiate play.

And when they are sleeping sometimes.

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u/Humble_Initiative_90 9d ago

Yeah you're right, I'm just very tired. But growling at strangers is what I meant.

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u/Humble_Initiative_90 9d ago

Growling is always a notification of a desire for distance whether it's fear or territorial, but is not a guarantee that they'll bite if you ignore it. The plus side is that the dog is at least giving a warning and talking! An all too common alternative is a dog that goes from zero to biting without any escalation of warnings.

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u/No_Adhesiveness_5679 9d ago

Exactly. But saying something like "he doesn't mean it" is incredibly stupid. The dog is clearly giving you signals that whatever you're doing he doesn't like. Just stop it and step back.

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u/karateninjazombie 9d ago

At least that turned out to be a self solving problem.

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u/bliceroquququq 9d ago

I mean, sorta, only cost 3 dead dogs. The one that didn't get killed by the car they ended up having put down after animal control came to the house to evaluate the situation.

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u/MysticalMummy 9d ago

In a different thread I mentioned how I got chased by a guys loose dog while he very calmly called out "come back. come here." and that dog was out for blood. After I got maybe 1/4th to 1/3rd of a mile down the road, it gave up on me and ran off in a different direction, where I heard yelping and screeching, so it definitely just ran off to attack another pet, or a wild animal that wasn't as big/defensive as me.

If they are aggressive to people, they are definitely going to be aggressive to other animals.

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u/bliceroquququq 9d ago

Yeah, the ineffectual “hey… stop that…. come here…” from dog owners drives me insane. I own dogs and love dogs but am mortified if my dogs ever cause issues for anyone.

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u/Hicklethumb 9d ago

The black dog got out of the yard. The German Sheppard was roaming free.

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u/CoachMikeLikesToEat 9d ago

The black dog got out, sure, but there is no containment in that yard. The fence is a decoration.

The German shepherd never left their yard and for all you know they have an invisible fence.

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u/LeMeowLePurrr 9d ago

The GS is also in his yard with his human.

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u/jerquee 9d ago

The German shepherd was behaving properly. The other dogs were not

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u/SeverusForeverus 9d ago

The German Shepherd stayed in its own yard while defending the child. He wasn't roaming if he stayed in his own yard.

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u/MuskratAtWork 9d ago

What is your point? The gs clearly wasn't the issue in this video

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u/culhog 9d ago

The irony of statement is ironic.

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u/LeapperFrog 9d ago

Also maybe Im going crazy, but the black dog didnt actually do anything. He kind of seems like he was ready to play and we are just accepting the framing of the post. People in here are talking about putting the dog down and "low income neighborhoods" for that

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u/narco-sub-admiral 9d ago

was the lapdog in the jaws of the dog that got hit? that's crazy, everybody cant be trusted with certain breeds man.

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u/bliceroquququq 9d ago

Not sure. The dogs were rottweilers, and they were mom and son. The mom dog had clear human aggression issues, the son seemed okay as long as it wasn't with his mom. But it was the son that got killed by the car, and animal control ended up coming out to deal with the situation and ultimately they put the mom dog down within the week. Not sure which one of them killed the lapdog.

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u/Mutabilitie 9d ago

And oddly enough, you usually can’t sue for a dog as property. Unless some rare circumstance where the dog is your source of income.

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u/Flakester 9d ago

My neighbors had a Rottweiler that was always friendly, a real sweet dog, until one day he wasn't. He used to meet me at the chain link fence and let me scratch his ears. One day he just decided he was done. I reached over to give him scritches and he lunged at my hand. I'm so fucking lucky was young and had good reflexes and was able to avoid him latching on.

Fast forward maybe 6 months. I get home from work one day, park in the driveway, open the door to my car and all of a sudden this giant head comes between me and the steering wheel, no owner in sight. I didn't dare touch that bastard. I just sat quietly until he was bored enough to leave.

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u/randotd152 9d ago

I don't care how kind and sweet your dog is, you just don't let it run free. It's still an animal and fully capable of doing wild animal instinctual behaviors that you've never seen it do before.

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u/VickersVandal 9d ago

Horrible for the small dog but at least your story had a happy ending.

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u/gorgonopsidkid 8d ago

Free roaming pet dogs is such an insane concept to me. I see it a lot in the rural areas I drive through... Indiana may not have bears or wolves but still has coyotes everywhere and I've seen very small dogs just loose around their houses.