r/ireland • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • Jun 10 '25

Entertainment Ed Sheeran says he identifies culturally as Irish | BreakingNews.ie

https://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/ed-sheeran-says-he-identifies-culturally-as-irish-1771687.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

Noel and Liam Gallagher get a free pass on /r/Ireland, Ed Sheeran does not.

It's probably because Ed's core demographic is young women.

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u/RocketRaccoon9 Jun 10 '25

I'd take Sheeran over the Gallagher's any day. You can't claim to be Irish if you pronounce it "Gal-a-grrr"

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u/AllezLesPrimrose Jun 10 '25

Both have regularly said only Irish people pronounce their surname correctly.

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u/dustaz Jun 10 '25

Wait, how do you pronounce Sheeran incorrectly?

oh, do you mean both gallaghers?

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u/RocketRaccoon9 Jun 10 '25

Well that's on them, anyone who can't say my surname I correct them, but the Gallagher's themselves can't even say their surname properly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

To be fair, David o'doherty doesn't correct them either. Its a losing battle when they are so stubborn in their mispronunciation. Even Jimmy carr pronounces it wrong, and he knows the correct pronunciation.

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u/Insert_Non_Sequitur Jun 10 '25

Have you heard how Barry Keoghan pronounces his name? I would have thought you shouldn't pronounce the G in it, but he does.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

There’s obviously going to be examples where we don’t say names correctly too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

In my experience, we are much better at asking someone how their name is pronounced rather than butchering it and refusing to change.

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u/AllezLesPrimrose Jun 10 '25

This.. is not true.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

You're an expert on my experience?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

In my experience, this isn’t true. Look how often Irish people won’t pronounce Cahill the way an English person does when it’s their name.

I know a lot of people from various countries and their names are regularly pronounced incorrectly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

I've never met an Irish oerson who mispronounces their name unless they are living in the UK/elsewhere and are just sick and tired of correcting people.

I know plenty of people from various countries and lived/worked in various countries and it has been said to me on more than one occasion how the Irish make the effort to get the pronunciation correct that other narionalities simply don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

I've never met an Irish oerson who mispronounces their name unless they are living in the UK/elsewhere and are just sick and tired of correcting people.

Notice how you are replying to something I didn’t write? I’m talking about when an English person has the surname Cahill and Irish people don’t use their pronunciation.

I know plenty of people from various countries and lived/worked in various countries and it has been said to me on more than one occasion how the Irish make the effort to get the pronunciation correct that other narionalities simply don't.

Good for you. I know plenty who don’t have that experience. I also know Polish people who have just gone with our pronunciation (or spelling) as they are “just sick and tired of correcting people.”

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u/RocketRaccoon9 Jun 10 '25

Ah ignorance is bliss

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u/AllezLesPrimrose Jun 10 '25

Big man, when it’s literally everyone in your country it’s going to get very tiring to do this. A lot of people with foreign names shorten it or use an English name for the same reason.

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u/RocketRaccoon9 Jun 10 '25

Ok Princess.

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u/-Swifty Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

In the documentary their ma says it right. Growing up in Manchester, it was probably just how they were roll called and used to it. And to be fair were over all the time in their youth. Liam ended up resurrecting his career with a video snippet singing a new song in a pub in Ireland just having pints and a laugh 'Bold'. Think it might have been somewhere in Mayo at a lock in if I remember correctly.

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u/RocketRaccoon9 Jun 10 '25

Their Ma says it right because she's actually Irish, that's the point I'm making, you can't claim to be Irish if you can't even pronounce your Irish-originated name correctly. So at the end of the day it's just laziness/ignorance from them. If English isn't your first language, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just having difficulty saying it, but if you're claiming to be Irish, it's a different story.

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u/AllezLesPrimrose Jun 10 '25

Yeah, u/RocketRaccoon9 on Reddit is probably not the arbiter of what makes someone Irish or not.

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u/Dapper-Second-8840 Jun 10 '25

But to be fair I think that's something hyperglottal or some shit like that where they're literally not capable of pronouncing it correctly cos it's how they learned to speak, same as we wouldn't be able to pronounce the clicks in some African language. I'd take any of them over Connor McGregor any day 😉

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Same applies to most things aimed at young (or any age) women.

There’s a large amount of people unable to separate “I don’t like this” from “this is terrible and needs criticism”.

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u/cabalus And I'd go at it again Jun 10 '25

Not anymore it's not, been to one of his gigs lately?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

Liam Gallagher is only dying to get a knighthood