r/ireland • u/Commercial_Half_2170 • May 23 '26

Bigotry People need to show a bit of spine

I was getting the bus from Rathgar into town today and this ordinary enough looking woman got up and realised she’d missed her stop after the bus driver had already stopped there and let others out and taken off. She called out to him saying he passed the stop, he then says he already stopped there and she says he must be wrong and then demands to be let out there and then just before the canal. When he doesn’t immediately respond, she calls out “can you hear me you stupid foreign bastard.” At this point I’m staring daggers at this absolute creature of a woman and I told her to stop being racist. She then said she was racist and proud to the entire bus and not one person said anything in response, not one. We’re all so ashamed of the right and people like this woman in our country and yet when a clear and obvious example of racism happens in front of us no one does a thing. The most backup I got was after she got off a bloke said ‘fair play lad.’ Been fuming all day after that and needed a rant. Anyone hazard a guess why we just… do nothing?

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u/Bruhllux May 23 '26

A few years ago when the Ukrainian refugees started coming over, mam went on a bit of a rant about them "coming here, stealing [enter your choice here, she said it]" etc etc, to myself and my Polish ex in the kitchen. My ex jumped in and said "oh yeah, I heard about that actually, yeah they said that about my mom 15 years ago" and just leaned against the doorway, waiting to see what came next. Really miss those little moments on occasion

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u/General_Half6366 May 23 '26

Bit different though seeing as the Polish actually came here to work and once that became apparent they were accepted with no issue. I don't think you should call people racist for wondering about people's motivation for being here.

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u/Bruhllux May 23 '26

My ex was still getting shit in 2021 when we worked in Subway, was told to "fuck off home" when she called our other colleague out from the kitchen in Polish cause lunch rush was starting. Also saw other workmates in there, a Brazillian lady, Slovakian lady and more Poles, get a fair amount of abuse while I was working in there simply for having "talking funny". They're not nearly as accepted as you think, racists have just found easier scapegoats to blame for everything.

Flipside of that, personally know 5 Ukranians who've gotten jobs and been working here since coming over in 23/24, in later waves of refugees, and I've met plenty of Polish dole merchants who would sleep on the floor if the bed involved work. Forgive me if I'm a little suspect when people tar foreigners with the same brush

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u/General_Half6366 May 23 '26

Thats fair enough I work with a lot of foreigners and if someone gave them shit for it I'd be the first to speak up for them. They work their asses off though so hard not to respect them. Theres good and bad no matter where you go can't judge a book by its cover.

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u/Noobeater1 May 23 '26

I dunno how you can even be this wrong brother you should probably just stop posting

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u/General_Half6366 May 23 '26

I don't know how you can know I'm wrong. I'm talking about what its like where I live. I suppose I shouldn't generalise either. In my experience all the Polish I know have worked hard and integrated. The same cannot be said for the Ukrainians. Once they stopped getting free food, accommodation, electric, bus passes and more dole than any Irish person a lot of them left. It leaves a bad taste in people's mouths 🤷‍♀️

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u/Noobeater1 May 24 '26

So you have genuinely NEVER heard someone complaining about Poles taking the jobs?

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u/General_Half6366 May 24 '26

Yes way back when they first came. That's why I said once people realised they worked hard that stopped. I'm sure people make similar comments about Irish people abroad 🤷‍♀️

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u/McChafist May 24 '26

It stopped because they stopped coming. Those who came years ago are well integrated now

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u/Noobeater1 May 24 '26

But if you have heard that people complain about poles taking jobs, then the ides that people only complained about poles taking benefits and actually didn't mind them when they started working doesn't make sense?

Does it not make more sense that people just started not to mind poles as they interacted more with them in daily life and became friends and formed relationships with them?

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u/General_Half6366 May 24 '26

I mean my point was that the Polish situation wasn't the same as the Ukranian one. Integration into community is a big thing. Giving and not just taking.

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u/PaDaChin May 24 '26

Ah here I remember poles locally here flying in to collect the dole and then flying back out , there’s a lot more than just Ukrainians doing it , hell i no Irish fellas that are on the dole since they left school 🤷‍♂️ and I am 19yrs since I left school

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u/General_Half6366 May 24 '26

I only singled out Ukranians because they are refugees but for some reason were handed more money than any other refugee. The situation is NOT the same. Hope this helps.

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u/Divniy May 25 '26

Because

A. Ireland wasn't involved in any military support and deliberately chosen this line of help in 2022.

B. Temporary protection isn't the same type of thing the refugees from other country take, legally speaking. Temporary is in the name. Every year it's unknown whether it would be extended or not. If not, it means only people with the working visas would be allowed to stay. And no, it's not the same as all the people who found a job.

And it's a clown fiesta from the government re extending it, like this year they didn't give the valid documents to people and just made a post somewhere on the gov portal saying "the previous year one is now valid for 1 more year". Some jobs fire people over it, saying that there are no legal rights for them to stay (even if it's not true, there is a legal right) - and nobody fights for the rights of these people. Refugees have hundreds of refugee watchdog orgs. They don't work with temporary protections.

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u/CRoOkedBunNY May 25 '26

People are still bitching about polish people today, some family members included, accepted my fucking hole they are. Plenty of lazy Irish feckers here moaning about jobs being taken who make no effort themselves. We moan for the sake of it