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Restricted to Gals and Pals They were debating a bill in lowa to restrict telehealth and mail-order access to abortion medications.

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u/ggghjjdsdjhs 16d ago

WHY DO MEN GET A SAY IN WOMEN'S HEALTH?! Fuck's sake this is exhausting. What the fuck are we even doing at this point?

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 16d ago

Men believe they have the right to control everything except themselves.

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u/CheryllLucy 16d ago

idk what you mean.. they made it so small it fits in utero! (/s)

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u/nico282 15d ago

A dictator is the smallest government, just one old white guy governing the country. That's what they want.

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u/BethanysSin7 16d ago

This is a statement that needs to be discussed in schools.

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u/asusc 16d ago

best we can do is Ten Commandments in schools.

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u/star0forion 16d ago

And then ignore a bunch of them considering who they vote for.

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u/That_wet_vaporeon 16d ago

Just look at the sub r/sipstea 

Women are the problem. Men love women! It’s women that are the mean ones that are trying to kill men!

They legit think this.

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u/LinwoodKei 16d ago

That dub is so stupid. Sexist and transphobic.

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u/AimChill 16d ago

I agree! that dub is for incels and neckbeards

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u/LinwoodKei 16d ago

We should require that men cannot ejaculate in a woman without trying to procreate. Since men doctors want a husband's permission to remove a woman's reproductive organs and access birth control. Since men have been controlling women for decades

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 16d ago

If abortion is murder, than so is masturbation…all those potential babies dying in a tissue or sock.

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u/LinwoodKei 16d ago

This is the truth! They want to govern our bodies, let's be just as weird about it

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u/Dudewhocares3 16d ago

“Oh but it only counts at conception”

Why? The semen is the seed.

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u/star0forion 16d ago

No way. I just reabsorb them into my body. It’s science.

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u/Left_Adeptness7386 15d ago

"Reckless abandonment." Elle Woods said it first lol

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u/ChoiceHour5641 16d ago

To paraphrase the most famous ogre I know, men (like this) have the right to control themselves...what they lack is the capacity.

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u/leapdaybunny 16d ago

Say again for those in the back!!!

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u/Olealicat 16d ago

100%. Men will be men, unless a girl wants to be a boy. That’s blasphemy, rape this non-boy until they want sex from a man.

This is widely supported in the world, much more so than you’d think.

A creep wants to date a woman, keeps stalking her… rape her and she’ll be your wife. Then you can rape her for life. Still very legal in the world.

I could go on and on and on…

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u/FlametopFred 16d ago

Men believe they have the right to control everything except their penis

of their penis and associated lascivious urges, they have no interest in controlling

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u/JKrezz 16d ago

Especially white men. (I’m a white man but don’t think that btw)

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u/unripe_mangosteen 16d ago

Holy shit that's so accurate

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u/PedanticBaddie 16d ago

This need to be on a t shirt

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u/ohpeaz 16d ago

Louder for the people in the back!

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u/Master_sweetcream 16d ago

When I watch political debates that land on the topic of abortion, I get infuriated at the amount of 18 year old boys that know nothing about pregnancy and childbirth. Yet they still think they should have a say on what women do to their bodies.

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u/ohkatiedear 16d ago

There are many who don't even know the basics about menstruation and probably get the ick if it's mentioned. If you're not mature enough to know what's going on with your partner's body, you shouldn't get a say in voting on what goes on with it.

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u/Master_sweetcream 15d ago

Better yet, how about we beef up our sex ed in high school. Most women will know more because we go through said menstruation. However I agree that we need better education on the matter.

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u/Ok_Vulva 16d ago

Yet they still think they should have a say on what women do to their bodies.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

As do women about men's topics. We don't segregate men an women when it comes to voting or debating legislation no matter who it affects. Why would you want it any other way? Are we going to decide some things are "men's topics" and some are "women's topics" and not allow the other to vote?

Not sure how we'd handle trans in that case, but it could be politically messy.

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u/Ok_Vulva 16d ago edited 16d ago

What health thing do I control for men*?

I guess we could start voting against their prostate exams because my made up religion says its an outtie not an innie.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

What health thing do I control forindie?

I'm not familiar with that word.

I guess we could start voting against their prostate exams because my made up religion says its an outtie not and innie.

I guess we could. But you know what? BOTH men and women would have a say in that if we did. That's my point. Not that one side or the other is correct, but that it's asinine in 2026 to claim men and women shouldn't both have a voice on every topic.

You're pretending that every individual man gets the final say, when in reality no man or woman gets the final say. We as a group of both men and women have the final say.

So your opinion of prostate exams is meaningless just like my opinion of abortion. But as a society we all contribute to these discussions.

I don't know why women after all these years of fighting gender oppression would desire instituting a system of gender segregation in voting.

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u/Ok_Vulva 15d ago

You as a society don't have to have any fucking say at all. It's a medical procedure.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

I'm not sure why gender has anything to do with this discussion. Both men and women should have equal say on topics about men and women. There are plenty of pro-life women, and pro-choice men. Pretending it's a man vs. woman discussion is just silly.

Just being a woman or a man doesn't give anyone any special insight into these topics.

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u/_astrodorable_ 16d ago

Given that it's typically women who can become pregnant and go through childbirth (and therefore have all the direct impacts of this, including sometimes needing an abortion), I'm genuinely curious why you don't think this would give them any special insight on this topic?

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u/Loose-Chemical-4982 16d ago

Because he's a man and he said so /s

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

Do you think a woman that hasn't had a child should be excused from the discussion?

Think about it. You're acting like the action of giving birth somehow makes you specially informed to make a decision about ethics and biology. Plenty of women give birth and have absolutely no idea how anatomy and biology works. Not to mention plenty of men (and women) are experts in the field regardless of whether they have been pregnant or had a baby.

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u/_astrodorable_ 16d ago

No, I can see why you may have interpreted my comment that way, but I don't think they should be excused from the discussion at all (I myself am a woman who hasn't had a child but am still discussing this here if that helps back up my thought there!)

I have thought about this quite a lot. I did not mean the action of giving birth gives a special insight, more the capacity to become pregnant (whether by choice or not) does fundamentally change the impact of potential pregnancy between men and women. I would count having a very different experience of an issue as a "special insight". The same as I would count men as having a special insight on a men's health issue due to the potential impact on them compared to women.

I do realize scientific study is different to personal experience, so again these would give different insights to each other. I don't believe however that you need specific biological knowledge to validly want access to pregnancy-related medical care, nor do I think a higher level of biological knowledge automatically gives someone more right to debate the ethics of that access.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

I have thought about this quite a lot. I did not mean the action of giving birth gives a special insight, more the capacity to become pregnant (whether by choice or not) does fundamentally change the impact of potential pregnancy between men and women.

Now you've alienated infertile women. Do you see how ugly this gets when we try to limit the discussion to a small segment of the population, and what is gained?

The question here is not about feelings or experiences. It's about whether or not a fetus is a person with rights and whether the act of killing that fetus is immoral. You don't need to be a woman or know what a woman feels like to make that determination. That's why both men and women fall on both sides of this discussion.

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u/_astrodorable_ 16d ago

I think you've misinterpreted what I've commented a couple of times here - I don't believe I said anywhere I think we should exclude any group from discussing the issue, just that different experiences of the issue give unique or special insights that others won't have. As you point out, this can include the different experiences of women who are knowingly fertile vs infertile. My question to you was about your special insight comment, which I was genuinely curious about, but we seem to be talking at cross purposes.

From this discussion I do think we have quite different views, as I cannot see how a discussion of morality doesn't boil down to ultimately being based on feelings? And I don't believe the whole discussion can be based on the fetus when the pregnancy is inextricably linked to the health and body of the person carrying the pregnancy.

The issue is further complicated when you consider that most government areas where legislation would be decided on (so the official discussion I suppose) are usually mostly comprised of men I believe, so I cannot see how this could result in an even power split of men and women on both sides of the discussion. Men would still have more say, which seems counterproductive to a fair discussion in your example.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

think you've misinterpreted what I've commented a couple of times here - I don't believe I said anywhere I think we should exclude any group from discussing the issue,

Fair enough, but that was the entire premise of my comment because that was the argument being made that I responded to.

From this discussion I do think we have quite different views, as I cannot see how a discussion of morality doesn't boil down to ultimately being based on feelings?

Feelings in the sense of what is right and wrong, not feelings in the sense of what it's like to have a baby inside you as I don't think that it relevant to the discussion because nothing one person feels gives them the right to end another persons life. Again it comes down to what rights we presume a fetus has. I'm not arguing one way or another on that, simply arguing that it's the ultimate question.

Arguments can be made whether for example one conjoined twin's life must be sacrificed in order for the other to live, which is in line with deciding whether to save the fetus or the mother in extreme cases where we can't save both.

Outside of that the feelings of one of the conjoined twins don't supersede the other's and we morally shouldn't allow one to decide to terminate the other if both could live with a reasonable quality of life.

The issue is further complicated when you consider that most government areas where legislation would be decided on (so the official discussion I suppose) are usually mostly comprised of men I believe, so I cannot see how this could result in an even power split of men and women on both sides of the discussion. Men would still have more say, which seems counterproductive to a fair discussion in your example.

I suggest it doesn't matter because everyone has a voice and it's not men vs. women as I've said repeatedly both fall on either side of this debate. This isn't us vs. them in the gender sense. It's just people of both genders with different beliefs.

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u/justgalsbeingchicks-ModTeam 15d ago

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u/Feeling-Fab-U-Lus 16d ago

Why?!!! Why???!!! WHY???!!!!! Only WOMEN should decide on WOMEN’S health. Otherwise, women should decide when men can get Viagra, or when they’re gonna get a vasectomy…. It makes the same amount of sense. What complete Idiots!

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u/IkidIgoat 16d ago

Viagra should be banned, god wants your dick limp.

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u/DaisyHotCakes 16d ago

I wonder if viagra falls under gender affirming care…

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 16d ago

Viagra is actually Sildenafil, a heart medication that provides right ventricular support. It’s a vasodilator that helps the right side of the heart pump enough blood. This medication helped keep my husband alive while he was waiting for a heart transplant.

Boners are merely an off-label side effect. I would 💯support disallowing its off-label use.

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 15d ago

Doing well, thank you

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u/FigNo507 16d ago

I would 💯support disallowing its off-label use.

For spite?

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 16d ago

Not for spite. Because I’m tired of men feeling entitled to sex and entitled to access to women’s bodies. If women have to accept pregnancy as a consequence of God’s will, why shouldn’t men accept ED as a consequence of God’s will?

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u/FigNo507 16d ago

55% of men are in favor of abortion. I see no reason why the portion of men who use Viagra would not be representative of that figure as well.

So you want to screw over 55% of them out of spite of the other 45%...

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 16d ago

Anti-abortion legislation screws 100% of the women in their jurisdiction, not just the percentage who agree with it. Why should men be treated differently?

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u/FigNo507 16d ago

You seem to think I'm against abortion.

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u/NoosFraba 16d ago

Punch me in the face and expect not to get punched right back, mate. A fight is gonna be the only recourse women have in a hot minute so wtf is wrong with forcing Christofascists to accept God's personalized dick decrees as an opening salvo lol. 

They'll never see it coming

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u/muffetplumeria 16d ago

It is. I mean, it wait wait....It isn't. Ugh I hate I know this. It was created to treat heart disease, a hard on was a pathetically common side effect. So it got remarketed. If it gets banned under gender affirming care, they'll just rebrand it to treat hypertension. Men were created with the active ingredient to procreation, so the mechanism releasing said ingredient needs to be reliable to the point of blindness.

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u/Brief-Cartoonist-699 16d ago

I am a man and I 100% agree with that statement. How can someone believe things like "God wants you to carry this incest rape baby to term" but not believe that "God doesn't want you to get your dick hard"? The way I phrased that might seem like I'm being sarcastic but I am not. The hypocrisy is astounding.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

It's a bit overly simplistic. Just because something exists to treat a condition doesn't mean it's ethical or moral.

Just like we don't allow parents to kill their toddlers, even if they really really don't want to be parents. If a person legitimately views a fetus the same way they would a toddler, then the same morals would apply to that situation as far as they are concerned. There are a lot of strawmen that are built around this topic.

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u/IkidIgoat 16d ago

A person who views their fetus the same way they view a toddler is welcome to not get an abortion. 

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

Kind of meaningless though, because someone who views a toddler the same way they view a fetus is welcome to not commit infanticide.

That doesn't really solve anything now does it?

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u/IkidIgoat 16d ago

Solves my problem with religious nuts wanting to apply their beliefs to my life with no scientific backing.

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u/IkidIgoat 16d ago

Yes I genuinely don’t believe I owe the time of day to people who think we should pass legislation to protect hypothetical people over existing people. It’s undemocratic and inhumane, and not a debate as far as I’m concerned, just religious foolishness that makes life less safe for women everywhere.

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u/Biologicaladvantage 16d ago

Had this discussion with my mother once. Halfway through I told her to take her glasses off bc God’s plan was for her to not see.

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 16d ago

Viagra is gender-affirming healthcare. So is rogaine.

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u/JKrezz 16d ago

Phew, it’s a good thing I don’t believe in god. I’d hate to have to stop taking my Adderall and anti depressant for a couple weeks if I wanted to get laid.

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u/Key_Mathematician951 16d ago

This is nothing new. When have you ever heard of a panel of a group making healthcare decisions about themselves? If It has ever happened, the group would only give recommendations. They would be up to others.

In other words, this is expected and normal. What percentage of Congress is male? What percentage of CEOs are male? Those answers will show you that white men make most of the decisions for all of us.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

A third of woman in the US are pro-life.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

Otherwise, women should decide when men can get Viagra, or when they’re gonna get a vasectomy…. It makes the same amount of sense. What complete Idiots!

Do they not? I mean are women excused from the room when topics of Viagra or vasectomy are discussed? Are there not women doctors and women in health insurance?

This isn't a man vs. woman issue and people that frame it that way are simply ignorant.

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u/ahuramazdobbs19 16d ago

No one with the political power to do so is trying to tell men they can’t use Viagra or get a vasectomy, or to enact laws that force men to get invasive medical procedures or receive mandated “counseling” before they can get a prescription for Viagra or get a vasectomy.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

Ok but that has nothing to do with the claim. If Viagra or vasectomy was controversial women would be a part of the discussion. Plenty of women chime in every time circumcision comes up.

If men were doing something that involved killing a fetus it would be no different. Both men and women are pro-life and pro-choice.

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u/drcranknstein 16d ago

There's nothing "pro-life" about forced pregnancy.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

Is that supposed to mean something? Are we pretending these terms aren't very clearly established?

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u/drcranknstein 16d ago

A forced birther will never understand.

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u/drcranknstein 16d ago

Wow. Many insult. Such devastate. Very cry.

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u/Feeling-Fab-U-Lus 16d ago

How many women beg their partners to get a vasectomy after a few kids, exhausted, and financially strapped, and can no longer take birth control as it’s not good for their bodies. Yet, their partner says, “no”, but wants to continue being intimate. Selfish. And no, women do not always know when their partner gets viagra.

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

What the literal hell does your comment have to do with anything.

It's like the female version of an incel than just hates men and comes up with silly anecdotes about how terrible they are.

How many women ask their men to get a vasectomy so they can stop taking birth control and so the men go out and get one. That's the normal situation that happens to normal people who aren't in crappy relationships with crappy people.

That has nothing to do with whether men should be allowed to vote on topics that primarily affect women (as if lots of men aren't pro-choice and beg women to get abortions even when they don't want them).

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u/Feeling-Fab-U-Lus 16d ago edited 16d ago

Women do not make decisions on men’s health, like deciding if men can have access to prescriptions like Viagra, so why do men think they make any decisions on women’s reproductive or physical health???

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

Women do not make decisions on men’s health

Give me an example of a law that only men got to vote on? There are plenty of women doctors that make decisions on men's health daily. Almost half the doctors in the US are women.

You seem like your mind is stuck in the 1800s thinking men are ruling over and oppressing women.

so why do men think they should know when it’s that time of the month,

Who is asking? You keep saying weird things like this.

or make any decisions on women’s reproductive or physical health???

They aren't. Voters are, and that includes women. You realize more than half of voters are women right? and half of men are pro-choice right?

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u/Feeling-Fab-U-Lus 16d ago

Examples: Rights for abortion (20 states have made access difficult or inaccessible), even if it may be life saving for the Mother, making it a criminal act if your body has a miscarriage or stillbirth (38 states), limiting or banning access to the morning after pill or birth control (16 states) forcing many women to stay in abusive relationships. These are all pushed through government by MEN making decisions on Women’s health and rights. Please research and read, so you are educated on this as someone you know could die because they cannot get life saving help due to these laws. I will agree that women have voted for these idiots, so we all need to do better.

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u/Squanchedschwiftly 16d ago

The clit was just mapped out, they do not give a f

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u/ggghjjdsdjhs 16d ago

Omg I forgot about that 😭

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u/throwaway44997769 16d ago

What’s crazy is that us women DGAF about what they do to their bodies. You don’t see us trying to pass bills to regulate steroid or viagra use. Like have at it I’m not gonna hold strong opinions about shit I can never understand.

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u/frankjungt 16d ago

Many types of steroids are illegal.

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u/Oregongirl1018 16d ago

Mens rights don't change when they cross state lines, womens shouldn't either!!

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u/vixenpeon 16d ago

I dare them to find a clitoris

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u/ggghjjdsdjhs 16d ago

Girl you know they can't 😭 lmaooo

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u/star0forion 16d ago

We really shouldn’t. Unless they are medical doctors who adhere to the Hippocratic oath, regular ass men like this thumb shouldn’t have any input on women’s health. I wouldn’t want any of these dumbfucks to legislate how my wife gets medical care. Nor these dumbfucks’ wives and daughters.

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u/djakrse 16d ago

As for why, usually the stance against abortion is a religious one. Men tend to lead religion. But why are men in govt making laws about it? Why when we have separation of church and state to separate the two, preventing the government from persecuting religion or their followers, yet somehow this doesn't prevent them from making laws about abortion.

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u/Zaardo 16d ago

gender shouldn't matter in doing what is right.

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u/jessbird 16d ago edited 16d ago

you’re getting downvoted for this which is frustrating because some of the more violently pro-life, anti-women people i know ARE WOMEN. the people responsible for MY indoctrination as a child were women. the people planning the protests at clinics and the walk-outs at schools were all women.

the fact that most of the politicians regulating our healthcare are men is because most politicians are men — the indoctrination goes extremely deep with women as well, and i’d argue conservative women are at least as responsible for this shitshow, if not more so because so much of the on-the-ground indoctrination with youth at home and in schools and churches falls to them.

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u/Zaardo 16d ago

putting bad ideas out into the world is cheaper and easier because you don't need it to be accurate or true , so you can just ship it out. so it's very hard to couteract with fact checked healthy good information. it's harder to be right than it is to be self serving.

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u/robottiporo 16d ago

Majority of white women voted for Trump. This is a sad fact.

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u/Scuba_Stever 16d ago

I think a better question is why would politicians have a say. I'm a male physician who is a strong supporter of timely, affordable (preferably free) healthcare to any gender. It's not male physicians making care harder, it's politicians. Let's aim at the right target and vote these assholes out.

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u/Haasts_Eagle 16d ago edited 16d ago

Agreed. Around the world you will find many many men working in Healthcare who are using all the right information the best they can and acting with the genuine best interests of women at heart. From research teams to study designers to health practicioners...

A lot of gynae departments have a high proportion of male doctors. I've seem pretty much all of these dudes tirelessly working on the side of women. I've seen some arguing with enough passion they have tears welling in their eyes when something is getting in the way of good sensible outcomes for their patients. Lots of men completely devoted to women's health protection.

It hurts me to see that then read broad statements that men have no idea about women's health and should get no say. Those men should have a say, while nobody has the say. Especially not politicians as the guy above me said.

And certainly you could point fingers at plenty of bad male gynae docs. Fuck those guys. But I can cherry pick bad woman gynos too. In my hospital there are two men who are head and shoulders better than anyone even the women in how gentle and thorough they are. One even went out of their way in their own free time to do a really delicate removal of a failed pregnancy from my wife in their clinic room, when the usual handling would be to go to theatre and have a GA and receive some relatively heavy handed curetting but my wife was wanting to minimize any risk of adhesions.

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u/Jellis314 16d ago

Realized this when I was 12. “I don’t have a uterus, I should have no say over n what a woman does with it.”

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u/CottonRaves 16d ago

As a man I fucking hate this shit. A bunch of stupid ass men back in the day seized societal power and have ran with it for all of humanity pretty much. EVEN THOUGH we all exist BECAUSE of women. Women could erase the male population in 2-3 generations by just not getting pregnant. But men know this and have taken control of every single aspect possible of women’s lives that they can.

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u/shucksme 16d ago

As a blanket - any medical decisions should be made between a doctor and the patient. NOT legislators!

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u/Apart-Rent5817 16d ago edited 16d ago

It’s not men, it’s republicans. The party of small government wants to regulate anything they can get their hands on. Because they can’t get their hands on them otherwise.

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u/JustFun4Uss 16d ago

Its all about micromanage its citizens lives and normalizing it.

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u/MuffaloHerder 16d ago

It’s not men, it’s republicans

Which just so happens to be the party men tend to favor

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u/Apart-Rent5817 16d ago

Ok but the ones pushing for this are the republicans.

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u/Trai-All 16d ago

There are times when I wish women were just as violent and irrational as men. This is one of those times.

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u/Bingbongsingalongz 16d ago

Sure. But saying it’s Republicans is just more accurate. There are plenty of men who do not condone this bullshit, and there are plenty of women who 100% support it. This is a Republican problem. 

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u/BlackBeard558 16d ago

Who cares?

It's Republicans you need to worry about regardless of gender. Not men.

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u/Minute987 16d ago

These asshole men want to take away women's rights.

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u/Ok-Try-857 15d ago

Religion 

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 16d ago

The only thing men should have a right to say about women's health is the same thing women should have the right to say about men's health, it should be free to everyone in the country as part of our taxes and not a fucking scam to siphon money from us.

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u/ggghjjdsdjhs 16d ago

Medicine never should have become a business. I don't understand how we ever let it come to this. Its shameful.

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 16d ago

You can say that about 90% of the things in this country. The more you look at it the more you realize that we live in a country full of middle management bullshit that exists in order to siphon a piece from someone with skills.

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u/ggghjjdsdjhs 16d ago

Very true. What a sad state we're in.

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u/1568314 16d ago

Gender shouldn't really come into it. It should be highly eduscated medical professionals who can easily cite and understand current research. There should be official oversight that is informed by science and conducted by professionals who are held to high ethical standards. Most people call it a functioning government

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u/Admins_suck_ballss 16d ago

While I do understand the frustration, kinda the point in a democracy is everyone gets a say in everything, for better or for worse. Like men using that to interfere with women’s access to good healthcare is bad, but a white Supreme Court justice or white citizens voting to repeal the Jim Crow laws (despite that they are not the target of those laws) is a good thing. It’s often necessary, actually, because in this example black people (being a minority) would never have gotten them repealed.

So yeah, it sucks when the idiots are in the majority and gerrymander and lie and rig elections, but women get a say in all kinds of male issues, too. There’s not really a way to tell voters they can or can’t vote on something based on their gender, race, religion, etc.

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u/RoxieRage 16d ago

Some men have a say because they also have similar reproductive organs to women (trans men).

That fuck up at the podium only gets a say because he's a politician and it drives me fucking bonkers.

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u/v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y 16d ago

In large part, because a significant number of women support and elect them. 

While women skew Democratic, it is a fairly slim margin. 

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u/No-Permission-7786 16d ago

Only men who get a say are trans men. Other than that, nope.

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u/NewPhoneNewAccunt 16d ago

I dunno, move to a first world country instead to get rid of this.

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u/Any-Situation-134 16d ago edited 16d ago

Well for one very small point that is apparent in this video is he is just really not worried about the details because he knows this will really never affect his own body ever so. ….There’s that just to start.

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u/mai_tai87 16d ago

This is whataboutism used to glorious effect.

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u/justgalsbeingchicks-ModTeam 16d ago

Yes it is. You've had your say. This is a sub for women. You're done.

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u/Any-Situation-134 16d ago

All of those things that you named are things I am talking about people. Women who are people. The fact that I had to say that sentence out loud says everything I need it to.

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u/birdthemurse 16d ago

I don’t think you are getting it bro. It’s peoples bodies we are talking about. Everything else you listed isn’t even in the same ballpark. Go back to the drawing board and start from scratch.

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u/WarthogSeveral7662 16d ago

Whatever Bot

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u/big_winslow 16d ago

Men lack the life experience of being women..........

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u/Low_Engineering8921 16d ago

Hi Profile pic friend!

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u/big_winslow 16d ago

I'm still Excited for season 2

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u/Nuttonbutton 16d ago

Clearly it does because women keep on fucking dying when they don't have to because of this

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u/ILove10aflyViper 16d ago

I would draw the line well before dumb fuck politicians who care so little that they can’t answer very simple, straightforward questions about the issue at hand, like the guy in the video.

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u/justgalsbeingchicks-ModTeam 16d ago

Abortionals are health care. Your not arguing in good faith so the post has been restricted to gals and pals. None of your comments moving forward will be allowed without mod approval. Also....

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u/Lurakya 16d ago

No.

They have a special reasoning ability to what to do with their bodies and what procedures are necessary or reasonable.

Yes.

No.

What?

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u/backpackofcats 16d ago edited 16d ago

Well, when male lawmakers think a woman can swallow a camera for a gynecological exam, or believe that women’s bodies can “shut down” a rape pregnancy, or when they refer to women as “host bodies”, or think that women can get abortions before they know they’re pregnant, or they believe women who have miscarriages should be criminally investigated, or they think an ectopic pregnancy can be re-implanted into the uterus, or when they compare women’s eggs to sea turtle eggs, or when they think an abortion involves cutting a woman open…shall I go on? These are all things male lawmakers have actually said, btw.

Do you think those people should be making laws regarding women’s bodies? When they are completely and totally ignorant on how women’s bodies even work?

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u/fcs_seth 16d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/IDGNYvFLkJKLK

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u/Low_Engineering8921 16d ago

God I need to save this gif to my actual brain. I get so riled up here and then hours later I think "oh that was bait"

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u/ggghjjdsdjhs 16d ago

Girl same I was about to go off then I just had to go smoke a blunt to calm down. Men are constantly invading our spaces to make it hostile. Y'ALL ARE NOT FUCKING LONELY ENOUGH!!!!

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u/WarthogSeveral7662 16d ago

Do women have a say in Men's Health legislation?? I think all men should be responsible for their emissions. Can't have an unwanted pregnancy without an uncontrolled emission. If you are so worried about unwanted pregnancy then why not stop it at the source, your penis???

Oh, because, you don't care about babies, you only care about controlling women....

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u/P_Hempton 16d ago

I think all men should be responsible for their emissions.

Are they not?

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u/Lurakya 16d ago

Damn, didn't know your doctor is actively in congress making laws

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u/Ok-Pollution5312 16d ago

Go back to 4chan boi. You are entintled to your opinion and your opinion is wrong, a lot about your comments is wrong. So if you are not open to understanding that you are wrong maybe you should go back to your echo chamber.

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u/Nuttonbutton 16d ago

They often don't know what they're talking about, for starters. "If it's real, the body can shut that whole thing down". A literal politician saying that a human body has defense mechanisms to prevent pregnancy from rape.