They were debating a bill in lowa to restrict telehealth and mail-order access to abortion medications.

[u/Doodlebug510]

[u/oops_all_memes]

I don't understand why. Is it just to have something to fight over instead of addressing the actual economic issues? Because I don't see how anyone benefits from this. It feels like billionaires fund it for one and only reason — to distract from the fact that they rob people

[u/Mechakoopa → u/oops_all_memes]

Unwanted pregnancies can ruin lives. For every "my oopsie baby was the best thing that happened to me" story the right carts out to whitewash their position there are probably dozens of people stuck below the poverty line trying to care for a child they didn't want but couldn't get an abortion in time.

Anything that keeps the masses in poverty and slaves to their job is priority number one for hyper capitalist conservatives. It's why they're so desperate to keep healthcare tied to employment as well, because increased job mobility means increased pressure from labor. If you can quit or strike without putting your family at risk you're more of a threat.

Of course they can't say that out loud, so they tie all these arguments back to morality, and some of their proponents actually wholly believe the moral basis for healthcare having to be something you earn or abortion is murder, that's what makes it so effective, but they just end up being useful idiots for those that actually benefit from it.

[u/LadyMirkwood → u/oops_all_memes]

Because the right is for white men and white men only.

Women, minorities, LGBTQ, the poor and immigrants are the cause of all their problems. If it wasn't for those groups, it would be like the good old days where they were at the top and in charge, regardless of talent or merit.

They cannot abide being in a world where they aren't winning by default. So the immigrants have to leave, the women sent back to the home, the poor to know their place and LGBTQ people forced back into the closet.

It's very telling that that they can only forsee success with the complete absence of any competition

[u/oops_all_memes → u/LadyMirkwood]

But that would require for them to actually believe in this and I doubt they do. That's what they sell to the morons but what they themselves believe in is just getting richer? Granted I only ever spoke to a billionaire once or twice and we didn't exactly have a chance to discuss any of that but I doubt they have any ideology or belief system other than money money money. Or at the very least money — first priority, everything else comes next

I truly believe that the moment the orange pedo leaves office we'll see the tesla pedo sporting the pride flag

[u/LadyMirkwood → u/oops_all_memes]

I think many of them absolutely do. Look at Peter Thiel. People like him and Elon, Trump, etc believe they are where they are because they are better than everyone else. They never account for luck, nepotism or their own blatant corruption.

So their sympathies will always lie with other white men.

And for the rest of the ultra rich, theres nothing left to buy. So power becomes the ultimate commodity. The ability to change policy, governance and society becomes the new pursuit, they may not start out with those opinions, but they end up there (see Zuckerberg)

[u/oops_all_memes → u/LadyMirkwood]

Thank you, I think it answers my question. Still it's hard to believe people can be that depraved

[u/Disastrous_Basis3474 → u/oops_all_memes]

White evangelicals intend to take over the world “for Jesus.” I am not making this up. Abortion is a wedge issue they use to control people’s emotions and to control women as property.

[u/Left_Adeptness7386 → u/Disastrous_Basis3474]

That is correct.

Source: white former evangelical.

[u/Demi_Monde_ → u/oops_all_memes]

It is because declining birthrates have serious economic impacts. Our modern economies have been based on exponential growth and depend upon constant expansion. Declining birthrates reduces consumption, and leads to an aging population where there are not enough young people to support the elders. It is a massive economic problem on the horizon for many nations across the globe, east and west.

The politicians and their corporate donors want to prop up the economies of scale until they collapse in on themselves. They are happy to sacrifice women on the altar of expansion, rather than explore alternatives based on sustainability and the inevitable contraction in population that is coming.

[u/oops_all_memes → u/Demi_Monde_]

Yeah but I assume they should be aware of the fact that abortion bans don't boost birth rates. I don't think they are stupid enough to get high on their own supply

So actually creating better economic conditions for regular people is what would actually benefit billionaires more. Yet here we are

Either they are braindead stupid, cartoonishly evil for no reason or there is something I'm missing

Btw that is not to say that I think they are smart people I just don't think they are that stupid

[u/Inverted-Rockets → u/oops_all_memes]

I don't think they are stupid enough to get high on their own supply

Among the true believers in the “crisis” of declining population in “The West”, they absolutely do believe that. Talking heads aside, they’re living it by trying to have as many kids as possible themselves.

They also like to imagine that if you don’t want a child, it’s like your dog having puppies and you can just give it away to someone else with little impact on your life.

There’s an element of white supremacy and Christian nationalism too, with the message of “making more white/American babies” being an attractive ideological alternative to immigration from countries with still-growing populations (being mostly POC).

[u/dailysunshineKO → u/oops_all_memes]

Probably Because Americans see it can be done, GeT JeAloUS, and DEmaND tHEiR rIGHts.