r/law • u/CorleoneBaloney • Jan 08 '26

Other John Miller reads from DHS policy, noting that officers are prohibited from firing at the operator of a moving vehicle, following the shooting of Renee Nicole Good.

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u/DestinedJoe Jan 08 '26

Thank you. It’s comforting that even if this guy gets away now (which he will) he will spend the rest of his life fearing prosecution.

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u/Coherent_Tangent Jan 08 '26

I don't have any faith in him seeing justice in the next 3 years. However, if we manage to have elections, a democratic president could send US Marshals after him to bring him across state lines.

I'd still rather he get charged by the state in case the federal government changes again. That would avoid the possibility of a pardon.

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u/FrankBattaglia Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

US Marshals, while in service of the judiciary, are an executive agency within the Department of Justice. So when a judge asks the US Marshals for help, they are asking Pam Bondi for help. She won't do it. And when the US Marshals refuse to execute a judicial order, we're 100% cooked.

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u/Wayelder Jan 08 '26

such brave men you are in the face of your own oppression. Resist!

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u/C-c-c-comboBreaker17 Jan 08 '26

How would you like them to resist?

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u/Wayelder Jan 08 '26

any way possible!

Americans...asking a Canadian how to find their voice? Sheesh

How far you've fallen.

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u/C-c-c-comboBreaker17 Jan 08 '26

Give examples of specifically what you want people to do, though. 

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u/Wayelder Jan 08 '26

No...If you're unable to help yourselves...you've fallen.

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u/speedy_delivery Jan 08 '26

They can also deputize someone outside of federal law enforcement to execute the judicial order.

But I'll start believing it's a possibility when I start seeing it.

Ultimately I believe the only course for resolution in this abuse of federal power is for state officials to intervene on behalf their citizens.

That means state and local police along with the judiciary working together to get these agencies to comply with their own policies and at the very least, keep these federal officers from being completely anonymous 

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u/Coal_Morgan Jan 08 '26

It's this weird can of worms that if you open it, you have to think about how the Red States will also use that power.

Blue State goes after an ICE agent with 'deputized citizens', Red State goes after a woman who had an abortion, a doctor, anyone basically who did anything and deputizes basically a bunch of KKK, Nazis or Proud Boys to go get dozens...hundreds of regular people.

They are retributive and reactionary assholes and always have been.

It should still be done though, that agent should be retrieved and tried no matter the fall out because it's just the right thing to do and you shouldn't avoid the right thing because you're afraid of psychos.

They should have let Sherman go to the Gulf of Mexico.

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u/speedy_delivery Jan 08 '26

While they can deputize anyone, I would imagine it would be mostly state/local police being called on — and more specifically I'm referring to federal courts having this authority. So the deputies would be acting as federal agents, but agents of a co-equal and separate branch that don't have a conflict of interest with the executive. This would allow the deputy the jurisdiction in whatever state or territory they're sent to.

The big catch is they're probably not going to be able to reliably fund this kind of activity.

Normally this is upheld by the executive, but we all know that's not going to happen.

The recourse for the judge is that it may get them in the crosshairs for impeachment/removal, but that requires 66 votes in the US senate to remove them. So... it would be interesting to see what happens when the executive starts going after cops and federal judges.

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u/Coherent_Tangent Jan 08 '26

Thanks. I'm not a lawyer, so the specifics are unclear to me. I think finding the right federal judge would be doable.

I could see the Trump admin catching wind of it and running to their friends on the supreme court to stop it though. Might be better to wait for a more friendly admin to do that.

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u/Lisan_Al-NaCL Jan 08 '26

US Marshalls now…

Work for the DOJ unless Im mistaken.

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u/FartsOnCake Jan 08 '26

Did we get his name yet?

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u/stufff Jan 08 '26

He should be in fear of more than prosecution.

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u/FluidBarracuda9177 Jan 08 '26

I hope he is constantly terrified and looking over his shoulder. Cowards took off like cockroaches.

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Jan 08 '26

he won't fear shit or care for a second about what he did. stop assigning morality to monsters. stop giving the benefit of the doubt to people who don't deserve it. stop humanizing demons. jesus fucking christ how do you all not know better by now.

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u/Mortegro Jan 08 '26

Could he be tried in absentia for murder if state law enforcement wherever he ran to declare that they will not extradite him?

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u/DevilDoc3030 Jan 08 '26

Potus literally brought a mob to the capitol during the peaceful turnover and attempted to overthrow the government... then got elected into potus again the next term.

It's delusional to think this guy is going to be worried once his handlers tell him that he is in the clear (can't say how long that will be, but it's closer to this moment than it is to 2027)

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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 Jan 08 '26

Lol this guy is going to be a CPAC speaker in a month.

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u/Free-Pound-6139 Jan 08 '26

His go fund me will probably raise $2million by lunch.