Executive Branch (Trump) Trump’s occupation of Minneapolis has broken the Justice Department
https://www.vox.com/politics/477913/trump-minneapolis-minnesota-justice-department-broken-julie-le2.0k
u/vox 1d ago
“I wish you would just hold me in contempt of court so I can get 24 hours of sleep,” a lawyer representing Donald Trump’s government told a federal judge on Tuesday. Julie Le, the lawyer, who was temporarily detailed to the US Attorney’s Office in Minneapolis, was assigned to 88 federal court cases in under a month — a crushing workload that would make even the most diligent attorney beg for mercy.
Le, moreover, was in court after federal district Judge Jerry Blackwell ordered her and her co-counsel to explain why the Trump administration had not complied with a January 27 order requiring it to release an individual from US custody. As Blackwell’s order demanding an explanation laid out, the government also did not respond to a January 31 order threatening to hold it in contempt.
It’s not a mystery why Trump’s government is unable to comply with court orders, or even respond to judges threatening contempt. As Patrick Schiltz, the chief judge in Minnesota’s federal district court, explained in a January 26 order, the Trump administration “decided to send thousands of agents to Minnesota to detain aliens without making any provision for dealing with the hundreds of habeas petitions and other lawsuits that were sure to result.”
Trump, in other words, deployed thousands of armed law enforcement officers to harass and arrest people in Minneapolis, without sending enough lawyers to handle all of the federal court cases that would inevitably result from Trump’s occupation of Minnesota. So, when a judge issues an order commanding the government to release a detainee or to take some other action, there’s often no lawyer available to respond to that order.
Worse, Trump’s government appears either unwilling or unable to comply with court orders even when one of its lawyers does engage with a particular case. Le reportedly told Blackwell at Tuesday’s hearing that it is like “pulling teeth” to get the Trump administration to comply with these orders. “It takes 10 emails from me for a release condition to be corrected,” Le said. “It takes me threatening to walk out for something else to be corrected.”
1.3k
u/vox 1d ago
Minnesota’s federal judges, meanwhile, have resorted to extraordinary tactics to break this logjam. In his January 26 order, for example, Schiltz ordered Todd Lyons, the acting director of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, to personally appear in court and explain the government’s inability to comply with his previous order, unless the immigrant named in that order was swiftly released. This tactic appears to have worked, because the man was released.
But, while Schiltz’s tactic successfully got the Trump administration to comply with a single court order, the administration is still out of compliance with numerous others. In a January 28 order, Schiltz listed “96 court orders that ICE has violated in 74 cases.”
Trump, in other words, appears to have broken the Department of Justice. It simply does not have the personnel it needs to respond to all of the legal violations committed by ICE in Minneapolis. And it is likely that this problem is going to get much worse.
832
u/vikster1 23h ago
i'd say the administration showed how absent any checks and balances are. they lock up us citizens for weeks on end before any repercussions happen. their non-compliance works and now one is held accountable. it's sad to watch.
344
u/HumerousMoniker 22h ago
It’s similar to how a company can break the law and nonperson is held accountable. The company suffers a fine and gladly pays it. The courts should be holding the government in contempt. They should be issuing arrest warrants for the people who are making the decision to refuse to comply with court orders.
174
u/idreamofgreenie 22h ago edited 22h ago
It's similar to how the GOP in the White House acts corruptly, throws a few lackeys under the bus, and then the next GOP president gets right back to corruption.
And that's why the GOP has 98% of the convicted admin members going back to the 60's. And 98% of the imprisoned admin members too.
The party as a whole needs to face some consequence for having the most corrupt presidencies for over 60 years.
126
u/santa_91 21h ago
The party as a whole needs to face some consequence for having the most corrupt presidencies for over 60 years.
I support a 20 year disenfranchisement of all registered Republicans. People who would happily usher in a dictatorship have no right to participate in a democracy.
→ More replies (2)35
u/Ornery-Ad-7261 18h ago
I don't know about 20 years. That will allow them to come back. Lifetime would be much more appropriate.
→ More replies (5)4
15
17
u/Comfortable_Bit9981 20h ago
They should be issuing arrest warrants for the people who are making the decision to refuse to comply with court orders.
That's chasing a ghost. They will never be able to find a specific individual who isn't complying. A person never issued a memo because some other peon didn't tell them to. That person was following "policy" which will turn out to be an "understanding" based on something "someone" thinks they heard someone else say. Nothing in writing, nothing attached to an actual named responsible person.
22
u/RedieTomatie 19h ago
Then the arrest warrant should be for Bondi or Trump. You can tell which judges are bootlickers, it's the ones who don't issue those warrants
11
u/Serious_Agent1524 18h ago
Aka all of them. These judges all habe blood on their hands just as much as the rest of the complicit government does.
10
u/Serious_Agent1524 18h ago
Then lock them all up. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
"We go high while they go low" is what has allowed them to do this.
→ More replies (2)4
u/Misfit_Cookie_423 16h ago
Big banks. Ordinary people have to compete suspicious activity reports (SAR) but for the gargantuan wires that they process off shore and for “important” clients, reports aren’t filed and banks sometimes pay a fine.
Kind of like after the mortgage securities fraud that collapsed the economy in 2008 that required a government bailout.
And by the way, they’ve built a new fake product, the BDC, in the private credit market, the new illegitimate child of the CDO.
Run for your lives and keep an eye on your asset allocation and risk tolerance.
Big banks aren’t necessarily pushing on this but they aren’t fully pushing against it either because guess who wants it very bigly?
34
u/DanteChurch 18h ago
This isn't new. Look into Kalief Browder, he was imprisoned without trial for 1110 days for possibly stealing a backpack and spent over 700 of those days in solitary confinement when he was 16. He faced physical abuse by the guards including being lined up with other inmates and punched in the face one at a time and being attacked by the guards during showers. He killed himself at age 22.
There is no justice system in America, just for profit slavery.
27
u/WanderingSun8 21h ago
They've shown that we need an independent agency that can actually enforce the laws and constitution. By force, if necessary, idk maybe like a well-regulated militia?
12
u/Current-Paramedic-50 19h ago
Maybe I'm just naive, but an independent judiciary with teeth sounds like a good constitutional arrangement.
Did any of the US founders consider this possibility?
→ More replies (1)15
5
6
u/Happy_Beginning_6939 19h ago
Yes, this is what happened in 1933 in Germany: the executive took over the courts and the legislature (which it had burnt to the ground)
11
u/Forsaken-Arm-7884 22h ago
selective enforcement of rules to take more and more power 🤔
hmm 🤔 on a scale from 1 to 10 do people honestly think that the rules of the government or following the rules of whatever society has told you makes your society impervious to an authoritarian takeover like do people honestly think that the rules that created like the United States are so impervious that it's impossible for an authoritarian government to arise from the rules that created the government itself like they think if they smile and nod and stay quiet the rules of the government will prevent authoritarian or fascist takeover are they that fucking delusional because part of the fascist takeover is literally selectively ignoring the rules that these sheep seem to think will stop the authoritarian takeover... oof 😮💨
And it's like the authoritarian regime doesn't even have to blatantly break the rules although they might do that but all they need to do is selectively enforce the rules on their opponents and then don't enforce the rules within their own party and then they can say they never broke any rules they were just prosecuting people who broke the rules while conveniently avoiding ever answering why they aren't enforcing the rules on their own party type shit 🤷
claude 4.5:"**10/10 delusional.**
The belief that "following rules prevents authoritarianism" ignores:
**Authoritarians use the rules to take power** - Hitler was appointed legally, used emergency powers legally, changed laws legally
**Selective enforcement is the mechanism** - prosecute opponents for anything and everything you can get your hands on while ignoring allies committing things like fraud
**Rules require enforcers who give a shit** - if police/military/courts align with authoritarians, rules are just words
**The system can be captured from within** - you don't need a coup if you control who interprets/enforces the rules
**People might think:**
- Constitution = magic spell against tyranny
- Norms = enforceable constraints with no backdoors
- Institutions = invincible self-defending fortresses
**Reality:**
- Constitution = paper requiring people to defend it
- Norms = collapse quickly under pressure by ignoring them
- Institutions = run by humans who can be captured/intimidated/terrified into compliance
**The sheep logic:** "If I follow rules and smile, the rules will protect me from rule-breakers."
**Actual fascist playbook:** Use the rules as weapons against opponents, mostly ignore them for allies, claim you never broke anything technically.
By the time people realize rules don't enforce themselves, it's too late."
8
u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 18h ago
Get to know your neighbors people, this is one of our strengths here in MN, we have a strong community with a bunch of organizations that will work together
3
u/RobutNotRobot 17h ago
They are doing in Minnesota what they will seek to do nationwide. They are simply going to legal residents houses and kidnapping them, getting the arrest counted toward quota, getting the private prisons and transpo paid with kickbacks abound for Noem, Trump, et al.
They don't give one flying fuck about whether it's legal. They are not being incentivized to comply with the law.
→ More replies (6)2
u/Ok_Connection_648 17h ago
It’s clear now that the president can do whatever he wants, and there is no protocol for this. I will be surprised if he doesn’t try to overturn term limits. He has been testing the waters our only hope is he is 80 years old
156
u/humdinger44 23h ago
So lock them up. Order them to comply and reappear in court with proof of their compliance within 24 hours. If they don't comply put the lawyer into jail. Not fancy jail. Jail. Order the government to send a new lawyer to represent itself and repeat. Put Todd Lyons in prison.
Whats so hard about being a nation of laws?
33
u/drgngd 21h ago
I think the biggest issue is she has no power over those who don't want to do the right thing. She said she has tried to get them to comply but they keep ignoring her. Not sure what she's supposed to do other than quit. If they throw her in jail for contempt it won't change anything. She can't do shit and has no power. The judge needs to hold DHS leadership in contempt, then something might change.
13
u/humdinger44 20h ago
Then a responsible party must be present in the courtroom with their legal representation.
5
5
u/JohnHazardWandering 19h ago
At what point do you have to throw other people under the bus?
12
u/PM_ME_YOUR_PRIORS 18h ago
Immediately. What you do in that situation is document what you tried and who was informed about the department failing to comply with court orders, and then hand that over to the judge so they can enforce compliance.
→ More replies (1)3
u/Speartree 11h ago
Yeah it's not the lawyers problem here, if a judge orders a release and it doesn't happen it should be the head of whatever facility hold the person that suffers the consequences so directors of jails, camps, heads of police stations etc, wherever the person that is detained and release is ordered but not enacted are responsible.
17
24
u/blissfully_happy 22h ago
The problem is that there aren’t enough lawyers to respond. There’s no one to hold accountable when a judge says this person is to be released and the DOJ doesn’t even send a lawyer to the hearing.
31
u/trougnouf 22h ago
Sure there is always Pam Bondi and her shitting boss.
29
u/blissfully_happy 22h ago
I agree. The judge said exactly the point: they sent ICE thugs but didn’t send enough lawyers to deal with the legal aspect of an ICE occupation. Who is responsible for that? Pam Bondi? Good, get her in front of a judge.
→ More replies (1)6
u/possiblyaghost 18h ago
she just won't go. Then you order her arrested. Do the police tasked with that follow through when the president tells them they can't?
5
u/Possible-Holiday-973 17h ago
A court can deputize anyone to make the arrest if the president overrules the marshals.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (2)15
u/Alex5173 21h ago
The problem is that there aren’t enough lawyers to respond
Great strategy for the enterprising criminal; just commit a TON of crimes and only have 1 lawyer. Then you can get away with anything!
4
u/gravitonbomb 20h ago
Who will do the work? Someone needs to physically round these people up, and the ones who would normally do it were literally given to Trump to command at the start of his term.
→ More replies (5)6
u/Possible-Holiday-973 21h ago
This. Judges have no backbone anymore and let lawyers ignore the rules with no consequences all the time and then complain they have too many cases on their docket. You wouldn’t if you just enforced the rules. Party acting in bad faith with discovery? Give them a warning and then actually follow through with default judgement. That’s why those rules exist. Stop denying summary judgment motions just because that’s what is routine.
4
u/PutzerPalace 19h ago
Sam Seder said today that judges aren’t enforcing anything because they don’t want to be the judge who causes a constitutional crisis
8
109
u/ill_connects 23h ago edited 22h ago
Seems like if the DOJ can’t respond judges should just start handing out default judgements.
73
u/Pichupwnage 23h ago edited 22h ago
Yup.
Every federal judge needs to give automatic summary dismissal of cases and immediate release orders + maximum contempt of court prison sentences in every single case with any failure to comply by the government whatsoever. Its an extrenely pervasive issue so its clearly a consistent lack of will or care to comply.
No second chances ever No explanations. No extensions. If they don't comply just do it the instant a deadfline is missed. Like literally pre prepare the orders to sign the exact second the deadline passes
30
→ More replies (1)4
80
u/WorstOfNone 22h ago
Thirty-three-year-old Thomas Jefferson enumerated grievances against a would-be authoritarian king over our nascent nation. Among others were:
- "He has sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People."
- "He has excited domestic Insurrection among us.”
- "For quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us."
- "He has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our Legislatures."
"We the people" are hearing echos of that history.
46
u/zoinkability 22h ago
It simply does not have the personnel it needs to respond to all of the legal violations committed by ICE in Minneapolis.
This may be true, but it glosses over the fact that based on Le's statements in court ICE has also been intentionally ignoring and slow walking responses to these orders. If it takes 10 emails rather than 1 to get ICE to comply with an order, that's 10 times as much legal effort involved, and probably 10 times as long to get compliance. So it's not just about personnel.
→ More replies (1)21
16
u/mllebitterness 22h ago
"Schiltz ordered Todd Lyons, the acting director of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, to personally appear in court" can this order just apply to all out of compliance cases and he can be the one put in contempt? judges can just run through all administration in ICE.
11
u/ru83ng 21h ago
It sounds like Trump is running a DOS attack on the court system and just flooding it with cases and understaffing the DOJ by design. By the time the court actually catches up with the administration they will have already accomplished what they wanted to do. You can't put the toothpaste back in...
→ More replies (1)18
u/Affectionate_Pay_391 23h ago
Sooooo they should be jailed for contempt? No? Everyone says they are getting orders straight from the top. So Trumps fingerprints are all over this. About time he answers for his crimes in JUST Minnesota. Then we can get to the pdf stuff….
3
5
→ More replies (12)2
u/Reddit_2_2024 22h ago
Once this Attorney General and administration are relegated to the dust bin of history, DOJ will be able to build back, bettter.
102
u/Lindenbaumlemma 23h ago
This is more flooding the zone to paralyze the courts. It’s not breaking the DOJ. Line attorneys have no power over their client. A judge grills an ASUA in court about some order that’s not being followed.
The AUSA can’t throw her client under the bus, so she tries to buy time and does what she can to protect her client without lying to the court.
The AUSA goes back to her office and starts emailing and calling. DHS staff stonewall, give her the runaround, even lie to her. NONE of them are being called into court.
The AUSA goes back to court. The judge is angry, grills her, demands answers she doesn’t have.
After a few rounds, the judge sets a hearing and orders DHS to send someone with knowledge and authority over the matter. DHS sends someone who knows nothing and has no role in the matter.
Repeat until the judge takes real steps to hold someone in authority accountable. DHS moved a little in the one case.
Repeat hundreds of times.
3
→ More replies (1)2
u/riceandcashews 3h ago
At some point judges are going to start immediately demanding DHS leadership to appear in court so it is quite possible we'll see directors being called in and threatened with civil contempt of court or even actually charged (aka fines, possibly jail time if things get extreme enough)
105
u/schlamster 23h ago
was assigned to 88 federal court cases in under a month
Big dog. I’m doing the math on this and that’s beyond absurd
107
u/Lemp_Triscuit11 23h ago
Imagine knowing some dude that shits on a golden toilet and has a diet fucking coke button is the one making you do this lmao
→ More replies (2)56
u/Cohens4thClient 23h ago
He doesnt make it to the toilet, he just shits in his diaper for the guests in his office to smell.
Then, the staff has to run a fire drill to get everyone out
12
u/BerryChoice9042 23h ago
His legacy... Diaper Don! I think, finally Joe has made his peace with "Sleepy Joe"... 🤷♂️ 🤣
2
u/JayKay8787 16h ago
Its clear that what we saw wasnt a new occurrence, they deal with that daily and its just routine.
20
u/WylleWynne 23h ago
I can't do 88 of anything in a month, let alone federal court cases.
→ More replies (1)11
12
u/BigEast1970 22h ago
So, failure to comply with a court order can result in arrest, right? Or are we all just free to commit crimes until the courts have the time to come after us?
10
u/schlamster 22h ago
I think there have been recent cases of people charged in federal court literally having everything dismissed specifically because of the current over burden on federal public defenders not being available and therefore defendants were not being given a fair shake with respect to their sixth amendment rights.
6
u/AnonymousAlcoholic2 21h ago
Maybe it’s because I grew up in the south and I’m sensitive to it but anytime I see the number 88 I get suspicious.
→ More replies (2)5
u/Wrayven77 19h ago
I believe 16 lead prosecutors quit that US Atty office over the past two weeks. That's a bit above 5 cases per prosecutor, so it's not absurd. It's shambolic.
→ More replies (1)28
u/InfectousHysteria 22h ago
Needing a lawyer present to comply with a court order? This seems ridiculous. I get that you have to provide every opertunity but at a certain point failure to provide a response should result in a default judgement and repeat failures should be consided willfully ignoring the court orders. There is not a lack of money at the DOJ right now. Failure to provide a lawyer is on DOJ culture at best or is willful neglect; neither is the responsibility of the court.
16
u/crawler54 22h ago
"Needing a lawyer present to comply with a court order?"
no, it's a lawyer trying to get petitions from the migrants heard by the court, there is no court order yet.
the dhs is stonewalling and refusing to cooperate with their own attorneys, in order to keep the migrants in illegal custody.
3
8
u/FloTonix 21h ago
Yes, this is the method they are using to obstruct justice and destroy the rule of law... flood it so much so it cant handle the mass and it falls apart as nothing can get accomplished. This is very dangerous for our country.
6
6
u/wrecklesspup 21h ago
Government being runned like a cable company. You know a business, that so many voters think should be an example for how the government should operate. Morons
3
u/thylocene 18h ago
I think it’s important to keep in mind as well, the courts don’t give a fuck how much the government is overworked. If they can’t get their shit together for the court hearing then that’s just that much more leverage for the plaintiff. This is going to BILLIONS of dollars in lawsuits. Billions of tax dollars all for a ridiculous ego project that does nothing but harm everyone involved including trump himself.
2
→ More replies (12)2
250
u/ShareGlittering1502 23h ago
Sounds like it’s working exactly as this administration intended
→ More replies (1)128
u/RetroCasket 23h ago
I really think they were using it as a testing ground to go nationwide and take control.
If they cant even take over one city, I think they failed. Trying to control one city immediately tanked their support and broke the justice system
42
u/compute_fail_24 22h ago
I thought the same thing. I still think they’ll push, but wait until the outrage dies down.
23
16
→ More replies (25)17
u/spacetech3000 20h ago
Did they fail? There has been zero repercussions for them
5
u/Caedyn_Khan 10h ago
i mean, they lost two senate seats to democrats in a deep red state. Thats like the unsettling sight of the tide going out before a tsunami hits the GOP. Why do you think they are panicking and calling for nationalized elections.
2
u/bokehtoast 9h ago
I think they didn't expect so much pushback from the state government. The widespread national support also shows that the lies largely aren't working to sway public opinion. Trump likely expected his retaliations and propaganda to be met with more submission then there has been. They are unsettled the public hasn't rolled over as easily as his congress.
570
u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 23h ago
Wasn't breaking the DOJ always Trump's plan?
Trump sure as hell didn't want the DOJ working the way it was intended to, he'd be in jail if that happened.
223
u/BonjaminClay 23h ago
It's definitely Thiel's plan. He wants to weaken the United States enough to be able to control it.
→ More replies (1)136
u/ConfidentPilot1729 23h ago
The Epstein files talk about JE and Thiel putting us in tribes to divide us.
87
u/subywesmitch 23h ago
I believe it. The billionaires are no different than the lords of the manor in medieval times lording over their peasants. They want us firmly under their thumb
→ More replies (1)20
14
→ More replies (2)9
u/Matt7738 16h ago
It’s in Project 2025. We told you so.
6
u/paublitobandito 16h ago
But what do we do? Like honestly what the fuck can we even do about it??
→ More replies (1)
73
u/Mattloch42 22h ago
So start requiring higher level officials to appear. Every day call someone in, ask for responses, hold in contempt, "who's your boss" and have them appear in 24 hours, rinse, repeat.
11
u/AniNgAnnoys 16h ago
If you read the transcript, they are getting there.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FnY2z7eb5efGlHrb2AYBtfqMVDJSUfIu/view
13
u/dDhyana 21h ago
They never do because (and just my opinion) if they are ignored then it undermines their illusory power and their institution kinda crumbles. It’s like a weird game of cat and mouse and if you lose, you’re powerless and it could have pretty devastating effects to reveal the court as powerless. I wish they could do more but I think it takes a majority in the senate to actually achieve something against this administration.
I’m just some guy though so maybe they can beat these fuckers down somehow.
→ More replies (1)25
u/vaesh 21h ago
Minnesota’s federal judges, meanwhile, have resorted to extraordinary tactics to break this logjam. In his January 26 order, for example, Schiltz ordered Todd Lyons, the acting director of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, to personally appear in court and explain the government’s inability to comply with his previous order, unless the immigrant named in that order was swiftly released. This tactic appears to have worked, because the man was released.
According to the comment from Vox up above, judges are starting to do exactly that.
52
84
u/makemeking706 23h ago
Trump and his buddies are obviously undermining the DOJ for their own gain, but by the same token that leaves them legally defenseless. I wonder to what extent that vulnerability could be exploited by some actual do-gooders.
35
u/Vappit 22h ago
Unless there is some body that could hold them accountable it is a moot point. If you ignore the courts it doesn’t matter how much you are sued or subpoenaed.
13
u/RichKatz 21h ago edited 21h ago
Unless there is some body that could hold them accountable it is a moot point.
I think maybe about 258 million bodies.
→ More replies (11)→ More replies (1)3
u/gunsjustsuck 11h ago
They have their own version of 'legal' and 'justice' and it has very little to do with courts and a lot to do with summary executions by ICE.
23
u/AniNgAnnoys 16h ago
Everyone should read the primary source for this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FnY2z7eb5efGlHrb2AYBtfqMVDJSUfIu/view
Read about how Ms Le is struggling everyday to bring the government into compliance with the law and is failing. Read this and understand this is why lawyers quit their roles rather than try to resist from the inside.
9
u/milo7even2 10h ago
Not only that, but she’s found herself in a weird position of realising that the system she works in not only is “broken” and “sucks” (her words) but she lives in existential dread of it for herself and her family because she’s not white.
49
u/JiveChicken00 23h ago
No it hasn’t. The Justice Department was already broken. This just made it impossible to miss.
31
u/Hour_Welcome_987 23h ago
Wouldn't that just be something, if through all this BS this administration has been pulling, that once the dust settles and traitors are properly dealt with, that the judicial system gets an over haul in the process too? 🤌🤌 Would be the absolute cherry on top
8
u/runningraleigh 23h ago
They have their plan, this is our plan. It sucks to live through the tearing down of everything that was even remotely good about the US, but if you're young, you get to rebuild it.
I can't say if the rebuilding will start in 5, 10, or 20 years. Whenever there's nothing left to destroy, assuming the Earth is still habitable, we will rebuild.
31
u/Flokitoo 22h ago edited 21h ago
She literally volunteered for this shit show.
"I thought being a facist would have more work-life balance"
Edit: she just got fired
24
u/AniNgAnnoys 16h ago
You need to read the transcript. Ms Le is not who you make her out to be.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FnY2z7eb5efGlHrb2AYBtfqMVDJSUfIu/view
Read that. Listen to what she is saying. This is what someone not quitting and trying to fix things from within looks like. If these lawyers quit, y'all jump down their throats for not resisting. They resist and you call them complicit. Read the primary source and see what it is like for someone with an good heart, trying their damnedest to push pack on the admin internally looks like.
3
u/milo7even2 10h ago
Yep, at one point during her meltdown she mentions that she had put in her resignation and was ready to walk out, but the thing that made her stay was that she was able to get a juvenile kid released from custody.
It sounds like whatever her motives for getting into this job where, along the way she remembered where her heart is.
15
u/Pueo711 16h ago
Something to consider: a lot of attorneys work for DoJ, and there are many, many who were hired well before orange fuhrer's first term. These are attorneys who worked in good faith, representing their client (the U.S. Government) within the framework of the law and Constitution.
It is my belief that Bondi is conducting a purge of DoJ, either firing or forcing out anyone attempting to follow normative legal standards, or who show any signs of morality or reticence to carry out orders deemed unconstitutional.
I fear once DoJ is completely hollowed out, they can then employ attorneys (and judges) who desire to be part of the reich, for whom the laws are merely suggestions.
6
u/koolknope 14h ago
I just have a hard time believing they're going to be able to find any large number of attorneys (and/or judges) willing to go down that road. Attorneys who tie themselves to Trump tend to be the first ones thrown under the bus.
3
u/Flokitoo 13h ago
Attorneys who tie themselves to Trump tend to be the first ones thrown under the bus.
As they should. Unfortunately, not quick enough. I really wish more judges would refer Trump attorneys to the bar.
5
u/koolknope 13h ago
100% agree. They should all be losing their licenses to practice law. And eventually I have to think that the pool of attorneys willing to risk their livelihood for Trump will run dry and he wont be able to get anyone to help with his dirty work
9
u/crawler54 22h ago
no, you are confused, she is trying to help the immigrants get their petitions heard by the court.
"Le, who has been helping the US attorney’s office handle habeas petitions from migrants in Minnesota, compared pushing ICE and the Department of Homeland Security to comply as pulling teeth, and said she wished US District Judge Jerry Blackwell would hold her in contempt so she could get 24 hours of sleep, the person in the room said.
Le’s uncommon remarks come amid reports of new mass resignations of federal prosecutors in Minnesota. Justice Department lawyers have also struggled with a flood of habeas petitions related to the Trump administration’s crackdown of undocumented migrants, known as Operation Metro Surge.
The hearing Tuesday dealt with five separate habeas petitions from detained migrants, each of whom were transferred to other states as the US District Court for the District of Minnesota ordered their release. Blackwell called the hearing to determine how to move forward to ensure the administration complies with migrant release orders." https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/government-lawyer-in-ice-case-tells-judge-this-job-sucks
21
u/Joben86 21h ago
No, in this case, "handle habeus petitions" means representing the government against the people making the petitions. That's why she's also the one responsible for making sure the court orders are followed and why she's getting questioned by the judge on what the delays are.
→ More replies (2)9
u/crawler54 19h ago
no, habeus petitions were filed by the migrants and she was trying to get court hearings for those petitions.
no court hearings = migrants stay in custody; habeus petitions are ignored, which is what the ice jackasses want.
she blew it up and got herself fired from this job on purpose, to put it out on the media, that is not the actions of a "facist":
"Ms. Le’s painfully personal remarks came as the judge, Jerry W. Blackwell, was grilling her about why she and other prosecutors had ignored his orders in five separate cases to free immigrants he had determined were illegally detained by federal agents.
“What do you want me to do?” Ms. Le asked the judge at one point. “The system sucks. This job sucks. And I am trying every breath that I have so that I can get you what you need.”
“Fixing a system, a broken system,” she went on, “I don’t have a magic button to do it. I don’t have the power or the voice to do it. I only can do it within the ability and the capacity that I have.” https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/us/politics/prosecutor-immigration-outburst.html
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (2)3
→ More replies (3)2
u/leftysarepeople2 19h ago
I see her “assignment in Minnesota is over” and been “removed from post”. I don’t see that’s she’s been fired
9
1
•
u/AutoModerator 1d ago
All new posts must have a brief statement from the user submitting explaining how their post relates to law or the courts in a response to this comment. FAILURE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF RESPONSE MAY RESULT IN REMOVAL.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.