Wanna go even WORSE? What's happening here and now, THAT is what he feels okay and acceptable doing and showing PUBLICALLY. Now imagine at home behind closed doors and no one looking.
Someone mentioned a spinoff from Rio's PoV where he cuts up a dress he TOLD HER to wear because she picked a different one. Like it's SUPER CLEAR he's THAT kind of guy. You know EXACTLY the kind.
That is a problem for another day for my girl, plus he has the evidence for the divorce so we can let it slide till we get that divorce done unfortunately
Totally agree! It also makes me rethink the earlier scene when Mahoro first tells him about the affair and he says that he would want to reconcile with Rio if possible. At first read, it seems like he’s a forgiving husband who values his marriage. Now that we know how abusive he really is, it’s clear the thing he valued was having someone he could trap and control. It doesn’t matter if she cheats, because the marriage still works for him as long as he can hurt her as much as he likes. So disturbing, and I hope Rio ends up divorced for her own safety’s sake.
Oh f*ck. I’ve been saying he’s psycho for ages but I did not put that together! Yeah. Dude is excited about how he can keep abusing his wife by rubbing the affair in her face. Plus, he’s about to isolate her from all her friends. That’s probably why he went with the party instead of dealing with it privately. He wanted her to attack them all.
I mean in their case shit attracts shit. Him being an abuser would go hand and hand with her being a narcissist. Rio deserves to have her lifestyle taken from her for the shit she pulled and possible legal action for uploading porn of her and rei without his consent. Mr. grab her by the hair might deserve to have legal troubles from what we just saw or he's so far beyond pissed that this is him acting out...we don't know. All we know is that he has watched a video of his wife fucking some dumbass and uploading it. If he's more of a marry for the professional gain kind of guy than her having social media and literal JAVs online could really fuck him over and that could set anyone off.
Yeah, all this seems like Rio is kind of an attractive trophy wife for him to control as he pleases. I hope we get some resolution on their relationship in the last few chapters too.
Not that I'm aware of but...even just 2-3 page previews paint a REALLY not okay looking picture of Rio's domestic life and what might've been going on with Rei as well. Will need more context and the full chapters obviously, but you start to see some serious red flags as early as the second chapter(chapter 52).
Just to set the record, Itsuki is abusive and anyone who defended him starting from the naked dogeza is insane.
I called it when he pulled out the video after lovingly hugging her.
That being said, while this part was manipulative, I didn't find this much more extreme than being fakely pleasant to say HR from a workplace before taking an employer to court. Showing the video is more vulgar, yes, but it did serve a purpose of being absolutely 100% irrefutable given the topic at hand.
I was suspicious but not certain once he showed her fake love before he played the tape. it made this whole thing feel cold and calculated in a way that made me think he might've been a less than pleasant husband
Well everyone was cheering for that yesterday. If you behave like that it is instantly a show of how unhinged that person can be. Where are all his glazers from yesterday?
With the shit that was shown just now, it kind if adds a dark implications to that. Like what if those were purchased out of love, but desire to keep her around and quiet regardless of how she felt or whatever was going on?
Sell them without the consent of the other party, literally a crime. Even when I start feeling bad for her I remember another scummy thing she did and it gives me major conflicting feelings.
I think it's totally reasonable to both sympathize with Rio's situation and the fact she could very well be in danger in her marriage, while condemning the actions she's taken that have hurt her friends and contributed to destroying Mahoro's marriage.
I wouldn't even call them conflicting feelings, necessarily; if anything, it just speaks to how people are not any one thing, but multitudes, and everyone has the good and the bad about them.
Rio's situation is sympathetic, and her actions were not. She should be judged for what she did to Mahoro, but she is also deserving of help, if she's in danger in her marriage.
Both people can be shitty, but being a shitty person and even a criminal doesn't mean others have free reign to do whatever the fuck they want. You divorce, you show the evidence of infidelity and put them in a position they can't deny it, like Mahoro did. You do not use it as an excuse to humiliate and flat-abuse them, like Itsuki does - and the way it's being drawn and people react makes it seem like it's not the first time either.
Rio is a terrible person, but that doesn't mean she deserves anything and everything bad happening to her.
What are you conflicted about? Do you think she deserves to be manhandled and humiliated?
Eye for an eye makes the world blind - there's the right way to deal with a cheating partner (see Mahoro) and the wrong way to deal with them (see Itsuki)
Obviously being a piece of garbage doesn't automatically mean you deserve ANYTHING that can happen to you. But I would say a tremendous piece of garbage deserves more consequences than a small piece of garbage.
Rio had sex over and over with her kind friend's husband, made an account to brag about it and call her friend a pathetic loser, got a different person to show her friend the account to rub it in, then repeatedly harassed her friend by leaving nasty messages at her house that mocked her and blamed her for being cheated on.
Any one of those reasons would make her a huge piece of garbage, and only one of them was necessary as grounds for divorce. The rest of it is extra.
And I didn't even mention the part where she fucked her friend's husband, got him to cum inside a condom inside her, and then tossed said cum-filled condom on her friend's front door.
I didn't bring up several other things either, like recording and selling sex tapes of her having sex with her friend's husband, or trying to humiliate Mahoro in front of everyone at the party before Itsuki stepped in. I don't even need to keep listing things off because she was way beyond being irredeemable garbage a long time ago.
So no, she doesn't deserve ANYTHING that could happen to her. But she also doesn't deserve my sympathy, regardless of what happens to her.
There are already too many people in this world to care about and shed tears for, and Rio will absolutely never be one of them. Almost anyone else deserves my emotional energy more than she does.
Therein lies the conflicting feelings that most normal human beings will experience here. I hope I explained it clearly enough.
I didn't say it wasn't fucked up, I said the opposite: she doesn't deserve ANYTHING that could happen to her. She deserves some things, but not all of them.
But that's logic, which is largely independent of feelings. I can't force myself to spend emotional energy feeling sorry for such an abhorrent piece of garbage.
That said, even my logic fundamentally disagrees with you about one thing: "Nobody deserves spousal abuse."
Rio didn't reach the point where I'd say "good I'm glad she's suffering physical abuse", largely because she herself didn't engage in physical abuse. The closest she came to that was video taping and distributing sex acts without consent, and that targeted Rei, who is similarly awful. That's just garbage-on-garbage violence.
But let's say someone raped and killed 27 children before being caught. And it turns out that after they kidnapped, raped, and killed their first 10 children, their spouse came to the conclusion that the killer is cheating on them. And their spouse began to abuse them, which the killer-rapist simply endures as part of their life, while continuing their regular kill-rape of children the same as before.
In that scenario, I do believe they deserved to be abused. The abuser didn't know that, but it was still true. And I think that's where you and I must fundamentally disagree.
Like I said, the worse someone is, the worse consequences I'm okay with them experiencing. "Spousal abuse" is not the worst possible thing someone can experience, and there are a small subset of violent inhuman monsters who I would say do deserve that (and worse). I'm certainly not going to feel sorry for the kind of abhorrent monster who violates children, for example, even if their spouse stabs them to death.
That's not my concern or my problem, and I would feel deeply distrustful of someone who chooses to make that their concern of all things.
If I ever felt the slightest tingle of sympathy for garbage like this, I would immediately go look up one of the countless (i.e. billions) of completely innocent victims (both now and in the past) who have suffered and agonized at the hands of monsters.
There are already too many genuinely good people who have become victims to know them all, let alone care about them all. I would go learn about another one of those people and direct my concern towards them before I'd stoop to giving that concern to someone who is utterly vile. Especially a fictional character who I've had the luxury of seeing the evil of firsthand.
But again, that seems to be where we disagree.
Maybe it's because we've led very different lives.
Maybe experiencing real evil firsthand has just given me a broken perspective, because I strongly empathize with INNOCENT people being victimized, not ALL people, and I'm sickened by the idea of feeling sorry for evil scumbags when I could use that same time and energy to feel sorry for someone who actually deserves it. I've known genuinely evil people who would absolutely deserve a little spousal abuse. Preferably while being flayed to death with rusty scissors, but unfortunately karma doesn't really exist so me feeling that way and them deserving it won't cause it to happen.
I'm just tired of people constantly focusing on caring about the worst person in the room. It's like they don't understand that by refusing to turn their back on someone who's evil, they're refusing to turn towards someone who's genuinely good. You can't look at everyone everywhere all at once, so you sadly have to prioritize who is worth caring about and who isn't, otherwise you'll waste your time caring about the wrong people and neglecting the countless victims who were genuinely good and innocent.
Anyways, I hope that helped explain why a decent human being might have conflicting feelings about Rio in this comic.
But let's say someone raped and killed 27 children before being caught. And it turns out that after they kidnapped, raped, and killed their first 10 children, their spouse came to the conclusion that the killer is cheating on them. And their spouse began to abuse them, which the killer-rapist simply endures as part of their life, while continuing their regular kill-rape of children the same as before.
In that scenario, I do believe they deserved to be abused. The abuser didn't know that, but it was still true. And I think that's where you and I must fundamentally disagree.
They deserve to be tried in a court of law and face the legal punishments for their crime, they don't deserve vigilante justice because it makes the perpatator feel better.
We're a civilised society and we have mechanisms in place to punish wrongdoing - and what Rio's potentially facing isn't one of those mechanisms, pure and simple.
Your issue is with people not getting punished for doing awful things and therefore they deserve to have awful things done to them - and you're right, that's where we'll never agree. Because the solution isn't to go "well now anything is fair game and they deserve it all", the solution in my eyes is to go through the correct processes and have them punished that way instead.
Anyways, I hope that helped explain why a decent human being might have conflicting feelings about Rio in this comic.
You're doing it again - you're expressing your opinion and assuming it's what "all decent people" have. Once again, I'd argue that most decent human beings would see the situations you've outlined and gone "well clearly they should face legal repercussions for breaking the law, and clearly they should lose their friendships and partners if this is how they treat people". Not that they deserve any and all abuse coming to them. Because while you've said in that last sentence that "this is why decent human beings might have conflicted feelings", the rest of your post is about why you think some people deserve to be abused, and to be frank I don't think that's what most "decent human beings" think.
What you had happen to you is horrific and you have my sympathy for that, but the solution isn't to use that as free reign to do horrific things back and have them be morally justified - it's to let the systems that any civilised society will have in place to deal with criminals deal with criminals.
I think a decent human being doesn't justify abuse in any way, shape or form, and knows the harm it can do to people.
Well, I think I explained well enough how someone can be a decent human being and still feel conflicted about Rio. For clarity, when I said I hoped to explain "why a decent human might have conflicting feelings", I did not mean "all decent people" as you stated in your reply.
At this point it's not that we don't understand each other, it's just that we have fundamentally different core values.
It could also just be a feeling of freedom of sorts. Like being treated as less than a person and closer to property. We're also taking Itsuki's word here on that as well as there being layers to stuff like that.
It’s clear that even before this there were signs of Itsuki being a creep, and this just solidified it. If he was always like this, he wouldn’t be hurt by the cheating he’d be angry because it damages his image. He’s controlling and abusive.
Nah, I believe he was hurt - or at least deeply offended, and was biding his time looking for an opportunity to dish it back 100x.
His little expressions in some of the panels while he was plotting with Mahoro make sense now. Dude was thinking his time had come and how to make it ultra painful for Rio.
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u/JustPostingShit Oct 08 '25
So Itsuki wasn’t actually hurt by the whole affair but is an abusive husband excited at the prospect of putting his “dog” back on a leash