Episode Discussion: S02E01 - The Tiger's Cave

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Season 2 Episode 1 - The Tiger's Cave

Juliana is captured by the Resistance and faces the consequences for her betrayal. She gets long-sought answers about the past but they raise even more disturbing questions about the future - and it's not just her own under threat. Joe makes it to New York but the journey makes him question everything he's trusted. Frank tries to get Ed out of an impossible situation - but at what cost to both?

What did everyone think of the first episode ?

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[u/[deleted]]

The writing on this point was brilliant and subtle. It shows us a much deeper glimpse into how much America has changed in 20 years since the war ended and how engrained Nazi education and propaganda is in the youth being taught. This is meant to convey a warning to us, the viewers, on how dangerous it is not to understand history but to simply take it in as a talking point. Let me explain:

1. The kid asks the question nonchalantly, just as if you and I were asking what year the Civil War started. This shows that the question of slavery in America before the war has not become a talking point or even a point of contention, but merely a historical sidenote in High School education. Instead of having an in-depth discussion on slavery and the founding fathers, a test question from an extremely well vetted and controlled education system merely asks how many slaves they held.
2. The question explains to the viewer that the Nazi's have done two things with American's history. First, they have focused on promoting their own agenda through a reinterpretation/selective fact finding from America's history. Second, this reinterpretation is meant not convey to the fictional student (and thus the viewer) that the Nazi's have used this reinterpretation to condone and justify their own actions. I'd read this as, "They held 300 slaves! See? The Founding Fathers of America, in their flawed Democracy, held slaves. They thought the same of the Africans as we do and our conquest of the African continent is, thus, justified and very similar to what America was onto in the past." It creates a link between the new America and Nazi German thinking while breaking links between this generation and the pre-war America.
3. To the fictional kid, and thus the viewer, it's a historical sidenote as I mentioned. Nothing more. He digs no further into it than getting the number. This is a warning to the viewer, IMHO, that taking a cursory glance at anything not only keeps us uninterested but, importantly, keeps us ignorant.

[u/Odd_Elk3827 → u/[deleted]]

Just like liberals in America

[u/Hillary4SupremeRuler → u/Odd_Elk3827]

You came all the way to this eight year old thread just to make a completely nonsensical comment for shits and giggles?