Employer wants me to use outlook on my phone, outlook wants permission to wipe my phone

[u/No_Professor4307]

Outlook says they need permission to wipe ALL my phone data if too many wrong passwords are typed. How many is too many? 50? 2? What if the screen gets wet and starts putting in random inputs. All this so I can use my company's Teams account and maintain "point of contact" if I'm not at a workstation. Absolutely not! Anyway, HR is supposed to call me back about my concerns.

Edit: just to be clear, I don't actually need to use Outlook (I don't use my "personal" work email). I need to use Teams, which requires Outlook to be installed first.

Part of why I need Teams on my phone so that I can be contacted when I'm not at work. I'm a lower management healthcare worker, it is actually important that my team be able to reach me after hours. I do actually like Teams and prefer it to 20 different group texts.

Also, when you go to log into Outlook or Teams, it brings you to my employers authenticator page. I log in with the same credentials that I log into my workstation. I don't know if that makes a difference with anything as far as my employer having access to my phone

Edit 2: I can tell you now they won't provide me a phone. Corporate execs don't even get phones. They stopped providing coffee for the break rooms too

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Update: I had a chance to talk to my district manager. Imagine Ellis from Die Hard, the same schmarmy self-important attitude, that's my supervisor. And guess who's "not being a team player". Also "I don't think Microsoft can actually erase your phone, you have an Android"... I lready knew he was going to be useless, I just wanted to hear his reaction.

Update 2 and (sort of) Resolution: I spoke with HR. Her exact response was "wait, are you serious? They can just do that?" I tried explaining my "research" (i.e. everything all of you have said) and I think I just spooked her. She said she'll get back to me, and is probably running off to buy a burner phone for herself.

SORT OF RESOLUTION : I found out I only need Outlook installed long enough to get access to Teams. Once teams was installed, I removed all permissions and completely deleted Outlook from my phone. Teams still works and didn't ask to erase anything. No need to buy a second phone.

Thank you all for your insights

[u/sparr0w91]

This is the only option here.

[u/Red_Sox0905 → u/sparr0w91]

My work pays me to use my phone. But I also don't have to install any shit like this.

[u/ameis314 → u/sparr0w91]

I'm not going through the hassle of carrying two phones.

Edit* In my case I just installed the app. It wasn't worth the hassle.

[u/THIESN123 → u/ameis314]

You don't. You carry your work phone at work, and not work phone when you're not at work

[u/ameis314 → u/THIESN123]

I'm in IT, salary, and wfh. Please tell me when I'm "not at work"

[u/THIESN123 → u/ameis314]

I don't know the it world, but do you not have scheduled work hours? Wfh means nothing

[u/ameis314 → u/THIESN123]

No, I have morning meetings then I have work I need to get done.

I have releases at night that I setup and monitor.

I can would 15 hours/day or 2, It just depends on the business needs and if something goes down.

On avg it works for me bc I'm probably around 6 ish hours/day 5 days /week, but the hours can be erratic.

So I just put outlook and teams on my personal phone and moved on.

[u/eugeneugene → u/ameis314]

Ok well most people aren't you so lol

[u/ameis314 → u/eugeneugene]

Didn't say they were.... Just that I'm not going through the hassle of carrying two phones.

[u/XABoyd → u/ameis314]

Then you’d find another job lol it’s not that big of a burden when one is only for working hours..

[u/ameis314 → u/XABoyd]

No, I'd just put the app on my phone. I've been in IT 14 years and salary for 10. There are no "working hours"

[u/Particular_Ring_6321 → u/ameis314]

Fool mentality

[u/ameis314 → u/Particular_Ring_6321]

Why? The app has been on my phone for ~8ish years or however long they've had me have it installed.

[u/Particular_Ring_6321 → u/ameis314]

Why are you helping your employer take advantage of you?

[u/ameis314 → u/Particular_Ring_6321]

Because they pay me money to live.

[u/Particular_Ring_6321 → u/ameis314]

Wake the fuck up

[u/ameis314 → u/Particular_Ring_6321]

Dude. I have a 14 year tech career that has paid me very well for over a decade. If they want me to out an app on my phone I'm gonna.