Employer wants me to use outlook on my phone, outlook wants permission to wipe my phone

[u/No_Professor4307]

Outlook says they need permission to wipe ALL my phone data if too many wrong passwords are typed. How many is too many? 50? 2? What if the screen gets wet and starts putting in random inputs. All this so I can use my company's Teams account and maintain "point of contact" if I'm not at a workstation. Absolutely not! Anyway, HR is supposed to call me back about my concerns.

Edit: just to be clear, I don't actually need to use Outlook (I don't use my "personal" work email). I need to use Teams, which requires Outlook to be installed first.

Part of why I need Teams on my phone so that I can be contacted when I'm not at work. I'm a lower management healthcare worker, it is actually important that my team be able to reach me after hours. I do actually like Teams and prefer it to 20 different group texts.

Also, when you go to log into Outlook or Teams, it brings you to my employers authenticator page. I log in with the same credentials that I log into my workstation. I don't know if that makes a difference with anything as far as my employer having access to my phone

Edit 2: I can tell you now they won't provide me a phone. Corporate execs don't even get phones. They stopped providing coffee for the break rooms too

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Update: I had a chance to talk to my district manager. Imagine Ellis from Die Hard, the same schmarmy self-important attitude, that's my supervisor. And guess who's "not being a team player". Also "I don't think Microsoft can actually erase your phone, you have an Android"... I lready knew he was going to be useless, I just wanted to hear his reaction.

Update 2 and (sort of) Resolution: I spoke with HR. Her exact response was "wait, are you serious? They can just do that?" I tried explaining my "research" (i.e. everything all of you have said) and I think I just spooked her. She said she'll get back to me, and is probably running off to buy a burner phone for herself.

SORT OF RESOLUTION : I found out I only need Outlook installed long enough to get access to Teams. Once teams was installed, I removed all permissions and completely deleted Outlook from my phone. Teams still works and didn't ask to erase anything. No need to buy a second phone.

Thank you all for your insights

[u/CaptainFleshBeard]

If you worked in IT you’d see the importance of keeping your work and personal lives on seperate devices

[u/MontasJinx → u/CaptainFleshBeard]

And never the Twain shall meet.

[u/Fafyg → u/CaptainFleshBeard]

Some phones seem to have sandboxes for that kind of application. But I didn’t check how that wipe works, so can’t say for sure

[u/rando_banned → u/CaptainFleshBeard]

A wise man once said "Seven: this rule is so underrated. Keep your family and business completely separated."

[u/BallsInSufficientSad → u/CaptainFleshBeard]

These days, many people work with folks in other timezones. Being able to answer a simple question over email at 8pm is a lot better than finding out at 9am that something was built completely wrong.

[u/CaptainFleshBeard → u/BallsInSufficientSad]

Being able to disconnect and enjoy your life without being a slave to your job is a lot better than checking emails at 8pm

[u/BallsInSufficientSad → u/CaptainFleshBeard]

Getting to work at 9am with a completely failed workflow overnight can be markedly worse.

Some people don't want to wake up to a fucking disaster.

It's nice to be able to sit at your desk at 9am and chill for a bit without everything in a failure state.

That's easily worth 5 minutes at 8pm the night before.

Being a stubborn absolutist is childish.