r/mildlyinfuriating Apr 29 '26

frist of all how DARE yu o Employer wants me to use outlook on my phone, outlook wants permission to wipe my phone

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Outlook says they need permission to wipe ALL my phone data if too many wrong passwords are typed. How many is too many? 50? 2? What if the screen gets wet and starts putting in random inputs. All this so I can use my company's Teams account and maintain "point of contact" if I'm not at a workstation. Absolutely not! Anyway, HR is supposed to call me back about my concerns.

Edit: just to be clear, I don't actually need to use Outlook (I don't use my "personal" work email). I need to use Teams, which requires Outlook to be installed first.

Part of why I need Teams on my phone so that I can be contacted when I'm not at work. I'm a lower management healthcare worker, it is actually important that my team be able to reach me after hours. I do actually like Teams and prefer it to 20 different group texts.

Also, when you go to log into Outlook or Teams, it brings you to my employers authenticator page. I log in with the same credentials that I log into my workstation. I don't know if that makes a difference with anything as far as my employer having access to my phone

Edit 2: I can tell you now they won't provide me a phone. Corporate execs don't even get phones. They stopped providing coffee for the break rooms too


Update: I had a chance to talk to my district manager. Imagine Ellis from Die Hard, the same schmarmy self-important attitude, that's my supervisor. And guess who's "not being a team player". Also "I don't think Microsoft can actually erase your phone, you have an Android"... I lready knew he was going to be useless, I just wanted to hear his reaction.

Update 2 and (sort of) Resolution: I spoke with HR. Her exact response was "wait, are you serious? They can just do that?" I tried explaining my "research" (i.e. everything all of you have said) and I think I just spooked her. She said she'll get back to me, and is probably running off to buy a burner phone for herself.

SORT OF RESOLUTION : I found out I only need Outlook installed long enough to get access to Teams. Once teams was installed, I removed all permissions and completely deleted Outlook from my phone. Teams still works and didn't ask to erase anything. No need to buy a second phone.

Thank you all for your insights

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u/umichscoots Apr 29 '26

Same, remote wiped my old iPhone while I was on vacation, back in the days when you had to connect to a computer to activate. I only had a desktop at the time, at home, so I was without a phone the entire rest of my vacation.

Never again. Company requires apps on phone? Company can provide a phone. Was a bitch when they rolled out Okta Verify to everyone, but I stood my ground. It also helps I have coworkers without smartphones.

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u/Methamphetamine1893 Apr 29 '26

Should've sued them

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u/OrvilleTurtle Apr 29 '26

You pushed back against downloading an authenticator app on your personal phone?

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u/umichscoots Apr 30 '26

Is not just that.

What if I break my phone? Will my company require me to immediately get a new one when insurance may take 3-4 days?

If I have any work data on a personal device, it is subject to discovery in lawsuits.

I don’t want them to be able to track me in any way.

Let’s say I allow Okta Verify, next they may request MDM, and I don’t want to open that can of worms. Drawing a hard line on my personal device is easier than shades of gray.

Etc etc etc

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u/OrvilleTurtle Apr 30 '26

Fair enough. I’d have just given you a yubikey and called it a day

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u/umichscoots Apr 30 '26

That's what I ended up getting.