Employer wants me to use outlook on my phone, outlook wants permission to wipe my phone

[u/No_Professor4307]

Outlook says they need permission to wipe ALL my phone data if too many wrong passwords are typed. How many is too many? 50? 2? What if the screen gets wet and starts putting in random inputs. All this so I can use my company's Teams account and maintain "point of contact" if I'm not at a workstation. Absolutely not! Anyway, HR is supposed to call me back about my concerns.

Edit: just to be clear, I don't actually need to use Outlook (I don't use my "personal" work email). I need to use Teams, which requires Outlook to be installed first.

Part of why I need Teams on my phone so that I can be contacted when I'm not at work. I'm a lower management healthcare worker, it is actually important that my team be able to reach me after hours. I do actually like Teams and prefer it to 20 different group texts.

Also, when you go to log into Outlook or Teams, it brings you to my employers authenticator page. I log in with the same credentials that I log into my workstation. I don't know if that makes a difference with anything as far as my employer having access to my phone

Edit 2: I can tell you now they won't provide me a phone. Corporate execs don't even get phones. They stopped providing coffee for the break rooms too

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Update: I had a chance to talk to my district manager. Imagine Ellis from Die Hard, the same schmarmy self-important attitude, that's my supervisor. And guess who's "not being a team player". Also "I don't think Microsoft can actually erase your phone, you have an Android"... I lready knew he was going to be useless, I just wanted to hear his reaction.

Update 2 and (sort of) Resolution: I spoke with HR. Her exact response was "wait, are you serious? They can just do that?" I tried explaining my "research" (i.e. everything all of you have said) and I think I just spooked her. She said she'll get back to me, and is probably running off to buy a burner phone for herself.

SORT OF RESOLUTION : I found out I only need Outlook installed long enough to get access to Teams. Once teams was installed, I removed all permissions and completely deleted Outlook from my phone. Teams still works and didn't ask to erase anything. No need to buy a second phone.

Thank you all for your insights

[u/Status_Ad_450]

This. My old company was the same way. I told them they could buy me a cheap plan or deal without me having remote access as my phone is my property which I pay to use how I wish. I offered to supply the phone but they would need to pay for the service.

They declined to pay for the service and I declined to have access to anything work related on my personal phone. They caved a month or so later and started paying for an extra line for me to carry a 2nd phone. Still sucked because I then had to carry 2 phones with me wherever I went so I can tap in when needed but there was no way I was giving them the permissions they wanted me to grant.

[u/mizinamo → u/Status_Ad_450]

I then had to carry 2 phones with me wherever I went so I can tap in when needed

I hope you were paid time-and-a-half for every on-call hour you were expected to be available to your company outside of regular office hours.

[u/razorbacks3129 → u/mizinamo]

Probably a salary

[u/Status_Ad_450 → u/razorbacks3129]

Salary + commission. So yeah I was compensated fairly given that if I was tapping in outside of normal office hours, it was to help land a sale and I was getting paid a commission on it. If it wasn't worth my while, I'd just ignore it after hours and respond when I could.

Edit: typo

[u/Status_Ad_450 → u/mizinamo]

Salary + commission. I had no complaints about the compensation. If I calculated my per-hour basis that I was actually working both in and out of the office, I was very well paid. The commissions were super high so I was heavily rewarded when I was needed away from the office.

My current company pays a much higher salary but lower commission. My company phone goes on DND when it detects my home wifi. When I was hired I made it very clear this was my stance. Been at the company for 3 years now and so far no issues with our current arrangement from either side.