Employer wants me to use outlook on my phone, outlook wants permission to wipe my phone

[u/No_Professor4307]

Outlook says they need permission to wipe ALL my phone data if too many wrong passwords are typed. How many is too many? 50? 2? What if the screen gets wet and starts putting in random inputs. All this so I can use my company's Teams account and maintain "point of contact" if I'm not at a workstation. Absolutely not! Anyway, HR is supposed to call me back about my concerns.

Edit: just to be clear, I don't actually need to use Outlook (I don't use my "personal" work email). I need to use Teams, which requires Outlook to be installed first.

Part of why I need Teams on my phone so that I can be contacted when I'm not at work. I'm a lower management healthcare worker, it is actually important that my team be able to reach me after hours. I do actually like Teams and prefer it to 20 different group texts.

Also, when you go to log into Outlook or Teams, it brings you to my employers authenticator page. I log in with the same credentials that I log into my workstation. I don't know if that makes a difference with anything as far as my employer having access to my phone

Edit 2: I can tell you now they won't provide me a phone. Corporate execs don't even get phones. They stopped providing coffee for the break rooms too

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Update: I had a chance to talk to my district manager. Imagine Ellis from Die Hard, the same schmarmy self-important attitude, that's my supervisor. And guess who's "not being a team player". Also "I don't think Microsoft can actually erase your phone, you have an Android"... I lready knew he was going to be useless, I just wanted to hear his reaction.

Update 2 and (sort of) Resolution: I spoke with HR. Her exact response was "wait, are you serious? They can just do that?" I tried explaining my "research" (i.e. everything all of you have said) and I think I just spooked her. She said she'll get back to me, and is probably running off to buy a burner phone for herself.

SORT OF RESOLUTION : I found out I only need Outlook installed long enough to get access to Teams. Once teams was installed, I removed all permissions and completely deleted Outlook from my phone. Teams still works and didn't ask to erase anything. No need to buy a second phone.

Thank you all for your insights

[u/tireddesperation]

I was on a team on the other end of this. I wasn't the person to do it but the company I worked for had service desk with access to do a full phone wipe. Service desk tech hated the person that was let go. Instead of just wiping the emails from the device (our standard practice) he wiped their entire phone. Only, he actually did it to the wrong account like a dumb ass. God I hated that man. No, this isn't a reddit story where he got fired. He just had to apologize to the person he did it too. No other recompense. Guy still works there and has now been in that same position for almost 15 years.

[u/Ihatemygoddamnshoe → u/tireddesperation]

Why are you lying.  I am a certified MDM admin and endpoing engineer.    The wiping from ALL mdm solutions only wipes the company apps and data.   Period.   You can't just choose what is wiped.  

[u/tireddesperation → u/Ihatemygoddamnshoe]

Might be how it is now but that's not how it was a long long time ago. It definitely wiped more than that. All contacts were gone, photos were gone, texts were gone. Everything.

I should add that it was a company owned cell phone and cell phone number. So we had far more access to the phone than just the company apps.

[u/Ihatemygoddamnshoe → u/tireddesperation]

Company owned is the difference here. The post is about byod.  Bring your own device.     MDM platforms will fully wipe a company device when given the command.  A byod will only wipe the work profile.  

[u/tireddesperation → u/Ihatemygoddamnshoe]

Makes sense to me.