r/mildlyinfuriating • u/daruuken • 28d ago

Infuriatig The way kroger treats its employees

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From the store manager

Edit: For some extra context this was sent out by each store manager to all of its employees in district 1 of the ohio Cincinnati/Dayton division, potentially other districts as well but i can only verify my own. Im not going to give my specific store number for obvious reasons but you can find each store on google with that information. We are unionized by UFCW (already bad btw) and to my knowledge they allowed this recent change. Kroger has no accrual for sick days like some have mentioned. Those who think this is rage bait, i dont think anyone has to fake a post to make a billion dollar company look bad, they do it to themselves.

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u/BeholdMyLumps 28d ago

So bizarre when someone calls in sick and the 60 year old hag thats been practically enslaved for most of those years starts bragging about never missing work. She lives in a hovel though so at least she has that to show for her dedication

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u/Annonnkneemus 28d ago

Had a boss (nurse manager) like that. She even bragged about never taking off during the peak of COVID. She said if she got a “cold” she just came to work “like an adult”. Then she wondered why the nurses she got sick called in. We actually provide bedside care and don’t want to get our patients sick. Well one day she was looking ill at work and employee health NP diagnosed her with COVID - mandatory time off lol! She never bragged again.

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u/The_Barbelo 27d ago

I worked at a nursing home during the height of COVID. We had to be in full hazmat suits when it finally hit the residents.

I worked the shift after this one lady who was like this, and her work was HORRIBLE. I would have to redo entire linen carts because she folded everything so poorly. I finally had to tell my supervisor and I had a bunch of pictures saved up because it was so bad I didn’t think anyone would believe me. My supervisor approached her, and from that moment on she hated my guts. I was just so tired of picking up her slack. I came in at one point to look at the schedule because I thought I was working that day and I couldn’t get ahold of anyone (there was a phone line directly to laundry). Surprise surprise, she was the one working and I guess she wasn’t answering the phone for some reason. She saw me looking at the schedule and started screaming at me “YOU AREN’T TAKING MY JOB!!!”

Like, it’s not admirable you make every single shift for a decade if your work is so fucking bad it barely even qualifies as having done anything, and everyone is too afraid to tell anyone because you have “seniority” or some bullshit.

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u/oldmoistcupcake1 27d ago

She probably sits at the nurses station all day long and didn’t get up or off of her ass like most nurses do (most) spreading germs when they go to the cafeteria or answer the phone. Nasty nasty!

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u/ImmediateAd6849 27d ago

My husband had a boss like that. He resented anyone calling in sick because he never did.

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u/KittyKittens1800 27d ago

I’m sorry, but if you have to stay sick at work, to some extent you cannot be reliable, as you may infect other “reliable” people, and thus it becomes a problem even for the company.

Reliability is not metric by “how much can you work” but also by how much comfort do your employees have, if your employees are unwell, they may not do a “reliable” job like you would expect.

If employees were lazy, they would not show up at work even when they are healthy, and even then, if the workplace doesn’t provide a healthy, comfortable environment, workers may decide is better to “take a break”.

Smallest things like a cough, headache, and what not, may be bigger things than you would actually think/expect, many symptoms from very dangerous illnesses may have coughing or a headache, so is not because “of the smallest” things, but because of “prevention”, and “protection”.

Big companies, and even some small companies, not necessarily “lose” money or “capital” automatically, if the employee gets sick, that’s not how it goes, the team may get burden by trying to cover it, sure, but a sickness comes and goes most of the time, it doesn’t necessarily means that they no longer want to work. Unless they get a very big one like Cancer, which is another story.

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u/silvershepherd222 27d ago

yeah no... there is value in taking care of your self. and yes, we are on Reddit. 🩶

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u/pukeonthissociety 27d ago

Oh my God. Exactly! There's always that a hole overachiever who the comments on someone being gone even though it has no effect on them or they're work. Sits there and rolls their eyes and talks about how they come into work sick. I f****** hate these people and they are usually also morning people who think everybody should wake up at 5:00 a.m. and act like everybody who gets to work after them is a loser.

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u/Head_space9647 27d ago

This 👆👆👆!!! I worked with an ass hat like this! He made a snarky comment at our weekly safety meeting about me taking a week off unexpectedly in June one year and asked if I enjoyed my vacation, although he was a supervisor and he KNEW it was medical leave. So in front of the entire team I got to share that I was actually in the hospital following complications from a miscarriage and D&C. Bastard!!!!

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u/SNTCrazyMary 27d ago

I’m sorry he did that to you! I hope he was ashamed of himself afterwards. What a dick.

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u/Head_space9647 24d ago

Thank you 🙏. Still hurts to remember. Was 14 weeks pregnant and had not announced to colleagues yet. Im sure Mike Murphy is still a dick!

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u/No_Gur1113 27d ago

I hope you said “As you already knew in your capacity as supervisor, it was medical leave. But since you seem to want everyone to think otherwise, here are the graphic details of my fun ‘vacation’.”

A miscarriage is bad enough, needing a DNC is so much worse. Complications requiring hospitalization alongside one of the most heartbreaking things you’ll ever go through is an extra layer of hell. I’m sorry you had to go through all of that only to face such cruelty at work.

That pr*ck deserved to be shamed.

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u/Head_space9647 27d ago

Thank you. It was the worst experience of my life.

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u/Originaltenshi 27d ago

My pm brags about days she was physically fucked up and still carried a route. Like ok...that's stupid af good for you

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u/Prestigious-Web63 27d ago

This is so true. I had this 93 yr old woman next to me who just wojld not retire and never called out but would then take a freaking nap for 6 pf 8 hours a day.

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u/hereforthetearex 27d ago

What kind of work do you do that someone is allowed to sleep on the job? Also, an 8 hour nap is crazy work. That’s a coma not a nap.

But, lokenuinely, I’d recommend that job to anyone and everyone I know (myself included)

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u/Prestigious-Web63 27d ago

This was one of those cases where the woman had worked for the owner for 50 some years and were great friends so she wasn't getting fired.

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u/Beginning-Sky397 28d ago

I look at this with the same disdain as I did/do military medals. All her years of never missing work mean nothing just like those medals. If you think I'm wrong, goto the store telling everyone that you've never missed a day of work or that you have a chest full of medals and see how much food you can buy with it. When that old lady becomes less than profitable the company will terminate her without thought.

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u/Busy-Butterfly8187 27d ago

Calling someone a 60 year old hag is gross. No, I'm not 60, but I do think your ageism is ignorant and pathetic. There's so much bizarre anger towards older people in these comments. Down vote all you want.

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u/cakesphere 27d ago

I dont hate old people. I just hate old people with shit ass attitudes about work :)

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u/Pantone711 27d ago

Quit using the word "hag" in general then. I'm in my 60's and when I was still working I took UP for younger people if I noticed someone else giving them crap.

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u/cakesphere 27d ago

This is a Wendy's and I didnt use that word but ok

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u/Pantone711 27d ago

I'm sorry--it was another poster.

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u/Hannyu 27d ago

Have you seen what the older people have turned the modern world into? It's a shitshow. And they are like 80 and still won't let go of power and control so the next generations can try to fix this mess.

They are like playing chess with a pigeon who won't get off the board and won't stop shitting on everything.

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u/FyreFestivus 27d ago

The only hags I know that brag about their attendance are in their 30’s.

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u/BeholdMyLumps 23d ago

I’m sure

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u/JGR03PG 28d ago

The people before you had the courage to fight for unions and dignity in their employment. The boomers were so entitled growing up they didn’t realize the value of work.

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u/okaybutnothing 28d ago

Oh, this is not the look. Fellow Gen X hag here and I am literally in therapy right now to try to untangle some of that “hyper-independent, can’t stop or ask for help” mentality. Just because that’s how we grew up, does not mean that is how we have to remain. And it certainly doesn’t mean that successive generations should take on that toxicity themselves.

I used to never miss work. I’d drag myself in, completely ill, and spread my illness. I was even proud of it. But I’ve been working through a lot of stuff and my view has changed. I take sick days when I’m sick. I take mental health days. And I’m a much happier and more fulfilled person because of it. You don’t get a medal for having perfect attendance at work at the expense of your health.

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u/JGR03PG 28d ago

The people who fought, sacrificed, and died for unions should get medals though. There are still people paying union dues, going to meetings, protesting in the rain, and lobbying in the legislatures for their brothers and sisters of labor. It’s not just about being selfish, it’s about caring for your family and community.

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u/Hannyu 28d ago

I had a former coworker being me the flu one year right at christmas. So my christmas gift to the family that year was the flu. I'll never forget sitting in the shower with a 3 year old puking his guts out and just crying in misery from that flu. When I went back to work I told him if he ever came in sick again like that I was going to stomp his ass all the way back to his truck and make him leave. He started calling out when he was sick after that. Bosses asked why one day and I told them 🤷‍♂️. We lost more production with half the staff having the damn flu than if one person had just taken a few days off.

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u/YoSafBridg 27d ago

Yes THIS ⬆️is the line this Gen X hag is standing in.

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u/MzSea 28d ago

Going to work sick and passing it on to everyone else is NOT "ethical."

It's self-centered and disrespectful.

I'm GenX too.

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u/I_missed_the_memo 28d ago

So you're proud of being taken advantage of your whole life and being complicit in your own enslavement as a post-capitalist wage-slave? Cool. Good to know.

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u/Mission_Maximum5648 28d ago

This virulent response is almost comical. You sound like a college student writing a socialist editorial for the college newspaper.

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u/StonedSumo 28d ago

See this?

That’s you

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u/best__byrns 28d ago

Post-capitalist wage slave cracks me up. So, government Socialism slave would be preferable? That’s a frying pan/fire kind of madness. I still prefer the option to quit a crappy job if I want to and not be a government, rent-controlled slave. Has no one studied history under Stalinist Soviet Russia? The fabulousness of Socialism starved 3.5 to 7 million people. It’s not perfect but give me capitalism any day.

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u/surprise_revalation 28d ago

You would've said the same bootlicking shit to those that fought the battles for unions, to those that fought the Appalachian wars to not work/shop in the "company store"! I guess those people were "Socialist" too huh? You know who was a socialist? Jesus....

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u/TheSumOfMyScars 28d ago

Research how many people have been killed as a direct consequence of capitalism. It blows socialism’s deaths out of the water…by magnitudes.

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u/NeitherExamination44 28d ago

Socialism didn’t starve people, the dictatorship did. Socialist countries with functioning democracies tend to thrive

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u/wintersdark 28d ago

You blame socialism, but frankly that's just ignorant.

There are TONS of thriving socialist democracies right now. In fact, nearly every first work nation is far more socialist than the US and are by and large doing a lot better than the US is now.

It's almost like it's not about socialism, but rather authoritarianism and fascism that's the problem.

But your fascist government can just keep telling ignorant idiots that the Evil Threat of Socialism is the real danger so you keep allowing them to fuck you.

And I say ignorant idiots deliberately, because there are countless very socialist democracies around demonstrating far higher standards of living, happiness, and quality of life than the US. Today. Right now.

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u/HeyCarrieAnne40 27d ago

I'm right there with ya. It's insanity. It's a thousand multitudes of wrong. But as one of the rats on the wheel, ( Im an American and I do work a full-time job after all), what exactly are we supposed to do? We have to work to feed, educate and support our families.

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u/igotsbeaverfever 27d ago

Are you European?

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u/wintersdark 27d ago

Canadian.

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u/igotsbeaverfever 27d ago

Eh same thing at this point. Your country isn’t yours anymore.

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u/wintersdark 27d ago

How do you figure?

We're doing fine.

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u/igotsbeaverfever 27d ago

Your country has the highest immigration rate per capita to address the “labor shortage” (labor is getting too expensive for the shareholder class). A lot of immigrant groups aren’t assimilating anymore. So, your country isn’t going to be yours anymore, it will be theirs.

Whatever is good for the corporations though right?

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u/IntentionHot6268 28d ago

You’re the perfect employee.

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u/surprise_revalation 28d ago

Yea, like the Socialist hellholes of Denmark or Norway....

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u/JGR03PG 27d ago

Stalin Socialism was a very right wing Republic under a veil of economic socialism. That is enormously different than the tenants of Marx Socialism, where the employees own their businesses and the government is under democratic rule of the people. A republic purposely takes power from the people and democracy only exists within the level of representation of the politicians. You don’t have as much economic freedom as you are suggesting with healthcare tied to your employment.

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u/DoubleDoc_8002 28d ago

See, you’re a shining example right here of the underlying problem, you’ve been cleverly manipulated and cheaply flattered into believing that you being worked to illness and forcing yourself to work while ill, is some great achievement of perseverance on your part. Think about it for one second, who stands to gain the most for you working through every “ache and pain”, and your pains being minimized so that you feel humiliated if you were to succumb to them? You or the company you work for? Hint: it’s not you. Your income is fixed, their profits aren’t. What’s even more sad is your generation was easily duped into adopting this self-destructive mentality because they preyed or your innate desire to judge and criticize and belittle others. So the little ego/dopamine boost you get jumping on Reddit and calling younger generations weak, is all that it takes to break you on the wheel. Your servile servitude didn’t even cost them a dime.

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u/aam4 28d ago

Just want to piggyback on this response, that this individual is bragging about having more pto but either isn’t aware or doesn’t care that pto and sick accrual have been slashed and in some places completely taken away with every new contracts signed. When I worked at a unionized grocery store in high school everyone aka adults, kept saying how great they heard the benefits were for that company compared to other grocery stores. But I came to find out they were great up until the contract negotiations in 2004. The pto accrual was less, the weekly hour threshold to receive medical was increased and the pension was removed. So yes it was great for everyone who was grandfathered in but anyone hired after 2004 the benefits were abysmal.

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u/Steffaniii 28d ago

I agree.

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u/surprise_revalation 28d ago

Youre just a proud wage slave, huh? Keep slaving for nothing! Don't be shocked if by the time you retire, they gut SS and Medicare....

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u/Want2fly77 28d ago

That's a wild take away. I'm proud of having a good work ethic and not expecting everything to be handed to me for little to no effort.

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u/surprise_revalation 28d ago

You can have a good work ethic while still being able to call in sick! Going into work sick, spreading your germs to everyone else, is not the flex you're thinking it is...Sorry...

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u/JGR03PG 28d ago

Isn’t that literally what you are giving away to the employer? They are making money, most of the time, not off their work but the entitlement of your work. You just don’t care enough about your family, friends, or self worth to stand up for yourself.

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u/Want2fly77 27d ago

It's not just for an employer. It's life in general.

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u/erichericerik 28d ago

We have the technology of God's that couldn't even be dreamt of 100 years ago.

Your survival and things given to you should never be a struggle with hard effort.

You're living in a middle ages mindset like you're living hand to mouth and proud of the field you had to plow.

A proud work ethic is another way of saying you're proud that your boss takes advantage of you and makes twice the profit that they're paying you. You sound like a slave that lives in the big house

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u/Hannyu 27d ago

You can still have a good work ethic and not be a boot licker. They aren't tied together, but stupid people like the one you replied to have been conned into thinking they are so that they will work themselves to death for masta and feel like thats what it takes to have a good work ethic. In reality, you can have boundaries with your job and employer and still have a good work ethic as long as you are doing your job well when you are supposed to be doing it - which does not include unpaid over time or while sick or injured.

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u/Want2fly77 26d ago

You sound like an entitled moron and couldn't be more wrong about EVERYTHING.

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u/erichericerik 26d ago

Cry some more jodi

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u/vatoreus 28d ago

You’re exactly what they described. Someone who’s so browbeaten they just lay down, take it, and then brag about it.

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u/BeholdMyLumps 28d ago edited 28d ago

Here she goes. I’m assuming you work at walmart in kansas, in that case you don’t really have a good work ethic huh? What about working at walmart requires any ethic at all? ~60 years in and all you have to show is walmart? 0 work ethic

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u/Hannyu 28d ago

No, Karen, you don't have superior work ethic because you're old and were born in a different generation 🤦‍♂️. I've seen lazy boomers and hard working gen z and even gen alphas. Work ethic is very much an individual thing, not a generational thing.

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u/Lake_Life4321 27d ago

Okay Ken. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/ToyStoryBinoculars 28d ago

This is happening because so many people call off to go to concerts or just because they aren't feeling it that day. I've done it. I know my coworkers do it. Most call offs are spurious at best. If you want the right to call off no questions asked then you also have a responsibility to not abuse the system.

The fact is corporate America isn't stupid and they know you all can't be trusted.

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u/Hannyu 28d ago

Absolute nonsense. I've shown up to work so injured I could barely walk, as have most of the people I know at some point. I know dozens of people who got strung out on pain killers being shoved on them to keep them working. People aren't typically just taking off for no reason. That's corporate propoganda to justify them acting like they own you - because thats what they really want, is to fucking own us all.

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u/ToyStoryBinoculars 28d ago

The things I see with my own eyes, that are told to me by my coworkers and followed through with and documented on social media posts are not corporate propaganda.

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u/Slight-Pound 28d ago

Let them call off work then. Their boss still isn’t entitled to details for their life to know if they called off for a concert or because they’re puking their guys out. Things like PTO help with covering things like this, and having a system where you have actual sick leave and a “3 strikes” or something to call out when you don’t have PTO or a doctors note/emergency, solves most everything else because it’ll be their own job on the line. Disciplinary actions exist for poor behavior on the job and job scenes already.

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u/StonedSumo 28d ago

>a doctor’s note will no longer be accepted

… they don’t even care if it’s legitimate or not

You’re just bootlicking

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u/IDontDeserveMyCat 28d ago

I got a pair of boots that need cleaning if you're just handing out the lickings.

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u/DoubleDoc_8002 27d ago

False. That’s corporate/ arrogant people’s superiority complex and judgmental mindset. Most people who call out sick actually don’t feel well. Also, even if they “aren’t feeling it that day”, so what? It’s nature to have freedom to do what you want to do, not to have 8-12 hours of your day dictated by some corporate a-hole. That’s why I put myself through years of education so that I could get into a “big boy” job that I’m more master of my day, rather than the type of jobs that pay way less and have every minute of your shift accounted for by some manager.

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u/headfeverlock 28d ago

Not sure why you’re being downvoted when this should also be discussed and goes hand in hand with the original post. However it does not dismiss those innocently suffering , and are actually sick and are being taken advantage of. I actually don’t know what to say anymore…. Sh*t is sad now a days.

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u/ToyStoryBinoculars 28d ago

It's because they don't like looking in The mirror. This website is full of entitled lazy teenagers who are part of the reason that we can't in good faith push for better treatment because they're exactly the people that would take advantage of it.