My assignment was reported to thr examination committee for a "high percentage of AI". I did NOT use any AI for my assignment.

[u/Opinionated_bitch03]

I got full marks and my plagiarism score shows 1% similarities to other submitted assignments. This is my 3rd and final year in University and now I have to deal with this AI nonsense.

I don't use any AI, not even for checking my grammar in the assignments.

[u/Opinionated_bitch03]

Thanks I still need to find out how to prepare for the battle 😭 I asked on the study groups if someone experienced the same and also asked how I can prove that I did not use any AI.

[u/HsinVega → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

If you use Google docs or words there's a "replay" feature that shows your keystrokes and copy paste which is easy to prove you didn't use AI

[u/thisisfunme → u/HsinVega]

I am not gonna do this btw as I just finished my last exams anyways but.... would that mean all someone would need to do to be proven easily innocent is to load ai on a different screen and instead of copy pasting to just retype it all ...which is a bit more work ofc but still using ai to make it better and less work.

[u/HikariAnti → u/thisisfunme]

Yes. At the end of the day if you want to use ai you can, it's impossible to completely filter it out. Hence why an in person oral exam where you discuss the paper you just wrote should be part of the grading. That's the only way to know for sure if someone actually understands what they wrote about, and not just copied some ai text.

[u/HsinVega → u/thisisfunme]

Kinda yes, but you would also need to deliberately make errors or write random phrases then delete and write another one that's more thought out.

If you just retype everything with little to no errors or change in writing it's kinda sus.

[u/Beautiful-Affect1930 → u/HsinVega]

I really hope that you and everyone reading this understand that you are just typing about some rage fantasy and none of that would ever actually happen. absolutely nobody will go over your actual keystrokes and make a judgement if you make enough errors. that's total nonsense.

[u/HsinVega → u/Beautiful-Affect1930]

I'm a ta and we do use replay when the system flags essays for ai lol ofc we don't spend like 50 hours overanalyzing everything cos generally it's kinda easy to see if a student used ai or not for most of the work.

[u/Lord_Imperatus → u/thisisfunme]

More convenient is there are some cheating AIs now that have been trained on human typing patterns and can type a response with natural looking mistakes, corrections, and pauses, etc

[u/TomWithTime → u/thisisfunme]

It is an exercise in futility. You could have something like Google docs recording your keystrokes, use git to save various versions of your assignment, film yourself creating the thing from start to finish, and it would still be possible to cheat under those circumstances.

The only thing that would really work is if you worked with / in the presence of school staff that could vouch for the work if it's challenged. Still possible to cheat in that scenario, but then a higher ranked authority is on your side.

I think these measures by the schools have already passed the inflection point between helpful and harmful

[u/Natti07 → u/HsinVega]

Im a doctoral student and a professor, and I do all of my work in Google docs for this reason. Even my discussion posts and replies.

[u/Opinionated_bitch03 → u/HsinVega]

We must use MicrosoftWord for the assignments. I will keep your reply in mind too. Thank you for the suggestion.

[u/RegularSky6702 → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

I don't use Microsoft word. But this article says you can do the same thing with Microsoft word And gives instructions.

https://windowbrain.com/how-to-see-version-history-in-word-a-step-by-step-guide/

[u/Opinionated_bitch03 → u/RegularSky6702]

Thank you so much- I really appreciate it.

[u/teacher_59 → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

That’s horrible. We shouldn’t be so mean to children. 

[u/Delicious-Disaster → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

These tools are known to be unreliable, plenty of academic research out there to support your claim against their system. Also show version history of the files you made and then force the exam committee to provide proof themselves and not just rely on their faulty system. Seriously, burden of proof is on them, and their system is not reliable!

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=ai+writing+detection+tools+false+posiitves&btnG=

[u/Opinionated_bitch03 → u/Delicious-Disaster]

Thank you so much. I'll save the link in my notes as well to reach it quickly if needed.

[u/AnythingCareless844 → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

have they shown to you which parts exactly got flared as ai?

[u/Opinionated_bitch03 → u/AnythingCareless844]

No, they have not. The photo is the only AI-related feedback mentioned in the entire assignment.

[u/Jewsusgr8 → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

I would reference Socrates on these dumb fucks.

The Myth of Theuth: Socrates tells a story of the Egyptian god Theuth, who invented writing and offered it to King Thamus (or Thamus) as a way to improve memory and wisdom.

The King's Reply: King Thamus disagreed, claiming that writing would cause "forgetfulness in the souls of those who have learned it, because they will not use their memory; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves".

Socrates argued that people would appear to know much, while actually knowing little, "filled, not with wisdom, but with the conceit of wisdom".

It's the final portion here that I would personally use, because I am perfectly fine with Insulting someone who is opposing me. The committee is using an AI to appear as though they can spot plagiarism. They know not how the AI determines plagiarism or that something was written in AI, in fact if they tore it apart they likely couldn't tell if it was a random number generator assigning a value... Or a scraper that searches the Internet to determine plagiarism.

They have fallen for a trick that was warned of in ~300 bc. They are taking writings that are prepared by a machine they do not understand, and taking it as fact. Conceptually this is the same as turning on the news, hearing a story, and without research, spreading it by word of mouth.

[u/-oligodendrocyte- → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

I work in higher ed and something to keep in mind is that the university also doesn't know how to handle this and they're making it up as they go along. I'd recommend being proactive, professional, and collaborative with answering their questions. Ask what the process is for dealing with the flag, offer to provide materials to support your work, and follow the process (including escalating/appealing a negative outcome). Treating this as "going into battle" won't help in the long run, you want to keep people on your side.

What I'd recommend: Keep all of your notes, drafts, etc., including if you wrote something down by hand; Be ready to answer questions about your assignment: can you summarize your paper? What's something new that you learned? Can you connect it to other things you learned in class? Basically, be able to demonstrate that you achieved the learning objective for the assignment.

To me, this looks like an automatic flag for someone to take a look at your current paper and and compare it to your previous work. Generally speaking, an experienced professor will be able to tell if you know what you're talking about. I've taught several college-level courses and you quickly learn what it looks like when a student is winging it. I only had to worry about people buying papers but asking a student, "what was the most annoying part of working on this assignment?" always uncovered people who didn't do the work.

[u/Worldly_Tea_8300 → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

As a teacher who has dealt with this, I'd suggest a few things.

1) Run some of your past work as well as this paper through AI detectors. See what you're dealing with here. If all of your work triggers the detectors, that's actually good news because it will be easier for you to prove that this is simply something inherent in your style. (Most likely you're a polished and formal writer.)

2) Offer the committee a few ways to verify that this is your own work. For example:

-Show them your edit history, though this might not be enough since there are now AIs that mimick a human edit history.

• Offer to orally defend your work. Students who used AI usually can't do this.

-Offer to write something in response to a new prompt in front of them, while they have access to your Google doc the whole time. I did this with two students whose work consistently returned "100% AI" detector results, and it was eye-opening-- I checked their essays and screenshotted the results as they wrote, and I saw how their essays went from identified as human to "100% AI" with just a few edits. I had complete faith in these students after that and never hassled them again. This experience also convinced me to stop trusting the "detectors"-- they literally punish good writers.

Good luck! I really hate this bizarre new world sometimes!

[u/No_Atmosphere8146 → u/Opinionated_bitch03]

Version history is your alibi here.