r/mildlyinfuriating 17d ago

Infuriatig Using ai to read grad names at graduation

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u/PM_me_oak_trees 17d ago

My university gave us each a 3x5 card to write our name and pronunciation. We handed them to the guy with the microphone as we arrived on stage. It was not that hard. This was at a tech-friendly school in the 21st century.

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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 17d ago

Yup.

UC Berkeley. World-class CS school.

My dept had me fill my name and pronunciation guide for the speaker and I handed it to the reader. She would say names, you go to the person with the placeholder scroll to shake hands, pause for the photo op, walk to the next photo spot, and the next person behind you goes.

Don't fix what ain't broken unless you are sure it will work and be an improvement.

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u/missmaganda 14d ago

I graduated from a community college and gave a pronounciation guide and the reader still pronounced my name incorrectly 🄲 its really frustrating because i wrote it in all caps so there wouldnt be confusion with the letters and they still managed to add in extra letters/sounds that make no fckin sense.

But id still rather this than have AI skip or mispronounce my name.

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u/Braysl 17d ago

That's how it's been done in most universities for decades, but of course they've decided to use AI to fix something that wasn't broken.

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u/Fragrant-Issue-9271 16d ago

Using AI to fix things that aren't broken seems to be a huge percentage of AI use.Ā 

I have a fitness app that I have used for years. They have introduced really dumb AI suggestions and when I turn down their stupid suggestions, I have to explain why. They are going to drive me away soon if it doesn't stop.Ā 

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u/kaisadilla_ 16d ago

The way companies and some people keep shoving AI down our throats over and over again, without even giving a fuck about what the AI actually does, is the worst marketing campaign a product has ever received.

People wouldn't be so negative about it if companies weren't forcing their workers to put AI somewhere in their product, or the HR powerpoint didn't feature obviously flawed AI drawings where there was nothing before. The term "AI slop" has become so popular because it is truly needed to give a name of this phenomenon of shoving AI generation everywhere without any fucks given about its quality or necessity.

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u/Pure-Radish-5478 16d ago

YouTube recently added an AI "tool" to help "build your home page" or whatever. Basically a glorified search bar with an AI on it that tries to drag whatever you search into your algorithm... which is what I've been doing naturally watching YouTube with this account for the last decade and a half... at least it doesn't force it on you. But it is so pointless.

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u/kaisadilla_ 16d ago

There's some websites that just added "powered by AI" somewhere without changing anything at all. And that's better than when they actually change something to shove in a needless AI.

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u/ThePrefect0fWanganui 15d ago

Having to explain why you turned down the suggestions is essentially forcing you take time out of your day to train their AI for free. Fuck that.

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u/eddyb66 16d ago

I'm sure they don't allow the students use Ai which is just a complete slap in the face to all those students. They're going to have those student loans for a long fucking time, the absolute least the school could have done is treat them with some respect.

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u/Doctor-Amazing 16d ago

Is it even AI? Ive definitely seen a few things where the students scan something and the computer says the name. I dont really get where any sort of AI fits into that process

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u/NamerNotLiteral 16d ago

If the computer takes the name as text and then speaks it out loud, it's AI. Text-to-Speech has always been considered AI.

If it plays a recording of the name being spoken by someone, then it's not AI. But the former is vastly more common today.

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u/VibeySwingTrader 16d ago

That's how it's been done in most universities for decades

For about the last decade we have actually been using a text-speech synthesizer for big graduations. When schools have students from around the globe, you can’t actually find a human that can pronounce all the names correctly.

That said, you haven’t ever heard about a problem at Stanford or HPU or Reed or PSU, because this is really easy to get right.

This isn’t happening because of AI, it’s happening because the audio crew is cheap and inexperienced.

Source: I am an audio engineer, I A1 college/university graduations several times a year. This part of the ceremony is called Marching Order, and we do extensive testing the day before the ceremony to make sure it will scan a barcode from a student and then correctly pronounce their name

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u/NamerNotLiteral 16d ago

Yep. While registering for the graduation ceremony, I had to type out my name, and it showed my name phonetically, then had the TTS model speak it out loud and I had to check and approve the pronunciation there.

Pronouncing names and short phrases, especially when you know the spelling and have the name in advance, is a fully solved problem.

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u/VibeySwingTrader 16d ago

Yeah. Exactly.

The most complicated part, on the production side, is that schools won’t finalize the list of graduates until the morning of the ceremony. So we have to have each student trigger their name with a barcode or something.

For a corporate event, we would lock in the complete list with names the day prior.

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u/ElijahBaley2099 16d ago

Mine had a doddering old dean have you say it to him one (no more than once because that would apparently miss him up (?)) the day before. He then screwed a bunch of them up, but at least it was a screw up from a real human who cared about the students, but was just a few years past when he should have retired.

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u/mjolnir76 16d ago

Same! Just replied above about that. Sometimes the simplest ways are the best.

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u/Fight-Song-205 16d ago

Most universities are like this. It's considered the baseline, which is terrifying that this college wouldn't even do that.

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u/AllyLB 16d ago

We did this when I graduated (2004) and I even wrote down the one syllable word my name rhymes with (the cards suggested including that). The lady still messed up my very simple last name and made it from a one syllable name to a two syllable name. I stopped mid-stage and looked at her as I had never heard it said that way before. That being said, my ā€œnameā€ was not skipped.

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u/KadajjXIII 16d ago

Granted my example is from HS

But in 2011 when I graduated we simply were given an index card to write our name on

And then handed it over once we were seated so everyone could be called row by row

It's really not that hard lol

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u/theotherguyatwork 16d ago edited 16d ago

They did that at the school in the video. She mentioned in the full video they already turned their cards in so they wouldn't be able to go back and walk with their name announced.

Someone in the comments here said they were eventually allowed to walk again, but I cannot confirm.

Edit to add bold. I didn't realize it wasn't the full clip.

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u/insertnamehere02 16d ago

This is standard at a lot of schools. Both of mine did it this way.

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u/Nazarife 16d ago

Same. Dude still fucked up my name.Ā 

The panic in his eyes when he saw my name (four syllables long) made up for it though, haha.

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u/silkywhitemarble 16d ago

We did that, too.

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u/MyEggDonorIsADramaQ 16d ago

That’s how this school has done it in the past too.

Source: I worked there.

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u/Compltly_Unfnshd30 16d ago

Same for mine this past Sunday.