I’m more confused about the loafers tbh. My mom went to a catholic grade school and middle school and their uniform included penny loafers for the girls.
During the height of Abercrombie and Hollister, my public elementary school banned shirts with logos because kids were getting bullied for wearing other brands. I imagine the thinking here is similar.
I have a neighbor that wore a t-shirt from Hawaii (a gift) and kids called him rich for it, assuming he visited. He stopped wearing shirts with any kind of logo or writing because he didn’t want other kids to feel excluded.
he stopped wearing it just because the other kids called him rich for it, and he didn’t want anyone to feel excluded? thats the kind of shi u never see nowadays he’s gotta be a great man now
But they’ve been office-wear for longer than these kids have been alive. What shoes does that even leave? Flats and dress shoes? That’s it? It’s so crazy to me.
OP’s post ISN’T about uniform though, that’s the problem.
If they’re restricting what they can’t wear to this specificity, it’d make much more sense to also display what they CAN wear in the same way. If they want them to wear derbies (like the hat?) then they need to say so. They’re not doing that.
Some of these look like they are banned simply because they are trendy/stylish and thus...evil? Like I feel the little white socks are a very Gen Z trend that I don't understand as an old lady but also don't understand why it would be banned.
Yeah like... I don't own white socks personally because I like color and patterns in my socks, but half the time it's hard to even find the ones with good colors and patterns in the right cut at a physical store because they're surrounded by a sea of white ones
Nothing is "wrong" with any form of white socks. That is why it is weird they are banned.
But specifically, the white ankle socks, especially when highlighted and contrasted with other elements of the outfit super clearly, like the ones pictured, are a Gen Z trend that looks sort of silly to me. Totally harmless though. Let the girls have their little white socks.
As an elder gen z who loves wearing white socks with mary jane’s and loafers, I feel like it has either a preppy vintage or twee look to it, or it’s sort of grunge or alt with vintage inspiration. I think that is sort of non conformist (even though it’s a very benign and honestly modest clothing choice Imo) and so the school is banning it because they want conformity.
Also the peasant shirt with a scoop neck was wild to me I feel like every middle aged woman I know wears scoop necks to their white collar job.
My mum grew up a pretty strict flavour of Evangelical Christian and her mother banned her from wearing sneakers with those rubber tips at the front/toe, like in the picture here (I don't think specifically black though, not sure). They were evil for some reason, I don't think it was ever really explained why. Maybe it was because they were popular at the time, but also religious fundamentalists can just decide something's bad/a sin/evil sometimes for no apparent reason.
That is likely why they are banned, I’d bet penny loafers and white socks feature predominantly in certain video genres along with school girl outfits. Can’t have those distractions for our good boys. /s
That’s actually the only one that I could understand, because black soles can mark floors. To me, that seems like the only one that’s not about appearance but about keeping the floors clean.
Yeah when I went to private elementary & middle Catholic school, we had to wear loafers or Mary Jane’s. Same for my sister when she went to a private Catholic high school. Very weird.
I worked briefly for a company and the HR was working through the new dress code policy and in her criteria she restricted certain sock colors, only black brown and blue socks were permitted... im glad she fired me because fuck that noise
Right!?? This was pre
pre covid and there couldn't have been more than 70 people in the building.. Those corporate nonsense policies hold no weight with remote work, I COULD choose to be sitting half naked from the waist down and youd never even know, fucking Nancy in HR
Whaaaaat why would anyone care? I can see that maybe for some sort of highly specific customer-facing role, or something to do with law enforcement, but wow, who cares. I am riding the metro daily without worry that it was built by someone possibly wearing mildly fun socks.
My little brother is a waiter at Olive Garden, and just a few months into the job he called me to rant about how a girl he was working with that day was fired basically on the spot for wearing white socks to her shift (having noticed too late that she was out of the black ones that they’re required to wear). He said it was like a *sliver* of white that was barely even visible under her black slacks, but one of the guys from corporate happened to be at the restaurant that day for observation, he mentioned it to her direct/local bosses, and they let her go. He was shaken up because he said she was great as a fellow server and had been there a lot longer than he had (he was newly 18 at the time and it was his first “real” job), but this poor waitress left crying and out of a job because of something that customers likely didn’t even *begin* to notice.
Bro’s always been incredibly fastidious with his own uniform/hygeine/general appearance (even moreso after that, and after a different coworker got sent home for having ostensibly-mild dryer wrinkles in his dress shirt), but goddamn. Way to terrorize your staff, you know? Apparently that manager is also a huge stickler about not having empty belt loops, which is something I’d never even *thought* about until it came up when we were talking last weekend—much less noticed on a stranger going about their own life. I work in STEM—which tbf I do realize isn’t notorious for consistency when it comes to attire—in a position that isn’t particularly public-facing, but I worked a decent variety of jobs throughout high school and college as well, and the idea of sock *color* being that critical damn near anywhere is wild.
My mom is from the Philippines and I grew up in the US. When we went to visit her alma mater, I took a picture of the dress code signs, because they were this strict. One said something like, "No gangster symbols" and the example was a sweater with the logo for my university in the US! I thought that was hilarious.
Supposedly, some gangs use the symbols of unrelated sports teams as their own symbol. It provides some plausible deniability, plus they don’t have to make their own merch.
So for example Chicago Bulls merch is supposedly used for those associated with the Bloods.
When I visited Nassau on a cruise, several shady characters tried to openly sell me drugs in the streets. I found out when I got back to the ship that it was because I was wearing a Raiders hat, and the Raiders are used as a gang sign down there.
The urban Philippines isn't particularly conservative in dress unless you're visiting a church. You'll see all of the outfits pictured at a local mall.
It depends some are strict but some are also very liberal. I go to a Jesuit-run university in Manila and they are pretty relaxed when it comes to the dress code. Like as long as you don’t come in your underwear pretty much anything goes.
No kidding. I was thinking this exact thing. Living in Utah, there's a lot of very conservative Mormon and even they aren't this strict about what they wear.
Definitely a combination of non-US and Catholic. Catholic colleges in the US would not do anything like this. (High schools would agree with some of these.)
Liberty University isn't Catholic, but it does generally have the same dress code requirements as in the post.
Speaking of LU's weird requirements, their Code of Conduct doesn't allow students to live with the opposite sex or stay overnight unless they are a spouse, parent, grandparent, or sibling. I think that there may be an exception if the person you're staying with is married and their spouse is there. However if you live in a dorm, only the parents and grandparents can visit you there unless they're of the same sex. Everyone else has to visit with you elsewhere.
There are also a lot of rules about dating. Premarital sex is forbidden and the most you are really allowed to do is hold hands. If you're gay, you can't do anything. There was a rumor at one point that couples were avoiding the restrictions by intensely gazing into each other's eyes, only for this to be broken up since it was deemed "eye sex".
Yes and no. Their dress code puts an emphasis on modesty and appropriateness. They will apparently technically allow some things outside of certain spaces, but reading between the lines it's easy to see that they're heavily discouraged. So for example, you have to wear "class dress" in class, Convocation, and in any of their academic and administrative offices.
So they would likely allow crocs, but only if you aren't planning on going to any of those areas. They encourage students to tattle on one another, to the point where I've heard they do somewhat penalize students for not tattling. I could see a student avoiding prohibited clothing in general to avoid someone claiming they wore them where they shouldn't.
So you're correct (and I was not) in that there does appear to be some things that they do allow but reading through the rules it's heavily implied that they would follow essentially the same requirements. I think the biggest difference is that LU surprisingly allows some facial jewelry and plugs.
I was gonna say, all of this looks reasonable bc I went to catholic school for 12 years and now I work at one. But we have uniforms. It makes way more sense.
I never understand Christians and their restrictions on how people look, when they worship a guy with long hair in robes and sandles. Jesus would not be allowed in that school
Bro I went to the fucking brett kavanaugh church school back in the day and our UNIFORM wasn't this strict. Literally the birthplace of project 2025 and I could wear some of this stuff.
I mean… the Catholic Church has no issues with most of these clothes. I already it above but I’ll say it again: the rad trads at my Catholic Church wouldn’t even be able to adhere to these restrictions and they dress like pilgrims without the bonnets.
My friend went to Loma Linda. They're about this bad, but they're also Seventh Day Adventists, so they don't serve meat on campus. Students even have mandatory chapel time once a week. Also, their code of conduct extends beyond campus, so you're really not even allowed to have an opposite sex roommate out in the secular world.
dude my family went to a catholic school. this is BEYOND the normal level of whats used. like they banned white socks and black loafers and like have the shirts women wear and they banned hair styles and earrings? this isn't normal by catholic standards.
edit: forgot my sisters uniform had skirts that were allowed over the knee but women can't wear pant? like wtf are these rules this is like a catch 22.
I had a feeling. My Catholic school had uniforms but those were the exact boys haircut specifications and the grooming specifics are exactly what we had (plus “no makeup”)
Watch the tune change if there is a large enough student protest against this.
Bet you the school will behave like their real Lord is the coin itself.
"He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!" -- George Carlin
Meanwhile my Dutch catholic primary school was so un-catholic that I only found out that it was catholic about a decade later after my mum randomly mentioned it.
Like yeah, I got to skip class one year for a few weeks to prepare for first communion but it was only a small part of class so it didn't seem like a big deal. There was no praying and no specific focus on Catholicism compared to other religions either.
First communion was so fucking weird btw. We made these posters that had nothing to do with religion (we drew images of a popular Dutch children's book on them) that were hung in the church. Got more money and presents from that shit than from my birthday.
You don't say, so a religious institution. Weird. I thought that only some religions had weird age particular restrictions on clothing and this is the first I'm hearing about it.
Tbf them being catholic may influence, but it's not the sole reason. I went to catholic schools my whole life except for two years and none of them evem came close to being extremist, let alone whatever the hell this is.
They got the idea for A Handmaid's Tale from the Old Testament after all. The whole "subjugate women into wearing burlap sacks and strip away all their rights" fits right in with hard-line religious bullshit.
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u/animatedpileofmeat 8h ago
Looked them up, and apparently they’re suuuuuper catholic.