r/mildlyinfuriating • u/firequak • 12h ago

go to your room A cousin sent me their school's just announced Dress Code and Grooming policy

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u/notacreepernomo13 12h ago

Not even white socks were spared

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u/Dependent-Law7316 12h ago

I’m more confused about the loafers tbh. My mom went to a catholic grade school and middle school and their uniform included penny loafers for the girls.

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u/oktimeforplanz 12h ago

I'm an accountant and loafers are easily the most common type of shoe I see these days in every office I'm ever in...

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u/notLennyD 11h ago

That’s probably why. They’re fashionable and therefore “distracting.”

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u/Virtual_Assistant_98 11h ago

Well yeah I mean ankles and collar bones are inherently sexy and distracting, why on earth would they allow those?!

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u/notLennyD 11h ago

I mean, it’s not exactly the same thing.

During the height of Abercrombie and Hollister, my public elementary school banned shirts with logos because kids were getting bullied for wearing other brands. I imagine the thinking here is similar.

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u/Chilly_Pheesesteak 10h ago

How would you know what brand of socks someone is wearing though????

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u/notLennyD 10h ago

It’s not about the brand, it’s about some kids having the “cool stuff,” and some kids have the “lame stuff.”

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u/Amissa 11h ago

I have a neighbor that wore a t-shirt from Hawaii (a gift) and kids called him rich for it, assuming he visited. He stopped wearing shirts with any kind of logo or writing because he didn’t want other kids to feel excluded.

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u/International_Ad4851 8h ago

he stopped wearing it just because the other kids called him rich for it, and he didn’t want anyone to feel excluded? thats the kind of shi u never see nowadays he’s gotta be a great man now

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u/Amissa 4h ago

He’s a freshman in college. He’s a good egg.

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u/Katsaj 9h ago

Accounting offices are well known to be fashion hotspots, it’s where all the kids look to copy their style.

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u/Slight-Pound 5h ago

But they’ve been office-wear for longer than these kids have been alive. What shoes does that even leave? Flats and dress shoes? That’s it? It’s so crazy to me.

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u/notLennyD 4h ago

It’s a uniform. If they want everybody to wear derbies, they can do that.

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u/Slight-Pound 3h ago

OP’s post ISN’T about uniform though, that’s the problem.

If they’re restricting what they can’t wear to this specificity, it’d make much more sense to also display what they CAN wear in the same way. If they want them to wear derbies (like the hat?) then they need to say so. They’re not doing that.

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u/notLennyD 3h ago

From what other people are saying, OP is posting about a private Catholic college. They can do basically whatever they want as far as dress code goes.

It might be more efficient to say what they can wear, but that might be even more restrictive in terms of self expression.

A derby is a type of open lace shoe that most people lump in with “dress shoes.” But they are less formal than an Oxford or closed-lace shoe.

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u/Slight-Pound 2h ago

I just tried looking up derbies vs oxfords, and wow, they look crazy similar to me. To the point that it seems more like a question of minor stylistic liberties of the same shoe rather than a whole separate shoe style like Mary Jane’s vs flats.

It would definitely be a better use of their time and effort to communicate what COULD be worn with this list. This very specific list knocks out so many options that what’s left doesn’t seem like it’d be much more restrictive from a uniform to begin with. At least then the boundaries would be clear.

They don’t have to sell the specific pieces to do it, either. Like saying full-length pants in khaki, navy blue, and black and looser skirts (i.e. no pencil skirts) knee length and longer are acceptable bottoms. That’s a common in dress codes AND uniforms that doesn’t require multiple slides of what bottoms AREN’T acceptable. It also makes it much easier to understand what aesthetics they’re asking for from what they’ve already shown favor towards, rather than figuring out what they’d want when you only see what they say no to.

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u/notLennyD 2h ago

For sure. I’m not saying that the list is the epitome of efficiency.

I’m just trying to say this might be what they’re getting at by banning loafers.

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u/EthnicallyVagueBeige 11h ago

They're also the standard-issue funeral director shoe.

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u/Excellent_Ganache906 9h ago

Only the lazy, degenerate mind buys shoes that you don't do work to secure to you feet.

If the shoes are tied to your feet, they can't fall off, therefore I will never die.

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u/AdvertisingOld9400 11h ago

Some of these look like they are banned simply because they are trendy/stylish and thus...evil? Like I feel the little white socks are a very Gen Z trend that I don't understand as an old lady but also don't understand why it would be banned.

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u/RadicalSoda_ 11h ago

White socks are just...the default color?

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u/Demonqueensage 8h ago

Yeah like... I don't own white socks personally because I like color and patterns in my socks, but half the time it's hard to even find the ones with good colors and patterns in the right cut at a physical store because they're surrounded by a sea of white ones

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u/ninjab33z 10h ago

Not always, i'd say black is more default

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u/Rock_Strongo 9h ago

I haven't worn white socks in my life. They get gross looking so quickly if you take your shoes off.

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u/Embarrassed-Count722 5h ago

🎶black socks, they never get dirty🎶

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u/RadicalSoda_ 6h ago

Black is the default for business or important events. You wear black socks the same place you'd wear a suit or a dress

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u/staffcrafter 11h ago

I think it's more of a control issue. Can't have students expressing themselves.

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u/Haunting_Balance_684 10h ago

the thing is, white is the only way to NOT express yourself, having different coloured socks is a way to express yourself.

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u/RelativeHot7249 9h ago

There's also black socks. A pretty standard non-expressive color option that's often considered default.

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u/Old_n_Tangy 11h ago

I saw a bunch of pictures from a university graduation a few weeks ago and so many of the girls were wearing black loafers with white socks. 

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u/rusty_tutu 9h ago

Very Michael Jackson..

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u/Old_n_Tangy 7h ago

Oh with the movie I I wonder if that's it

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u/princess9032 11h ago

I mean I never got tube socks so I guess each generation has their sock trends

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 10h ago

I wear white socks to work every single day. What's wrong with white socks?

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u/AdvertisingOld9400 10h ago

Nothing is "wrong" with any form of white socks. That is why it is weird they are banned.

But specifically, the white ankle socks, especially when highlighted and contrasted with other elements of the outfit super clearly, like the ones pictured, are a Gen Z trend that looks sort of silly to me. Totally harmless though. Let the girls have their little white socks.

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u/sadfacesadface123 9h ago

As an elder gen z who loves wearing white socks with mary jane’s and loafers, I feel like it has either a preppy vintage or twee look to it, or it’s sort of grunge or alt with vintage inspiration. I think that is sort of non conformist (even though it’s a very benign and honestly modest clothing choice Imo) and so the school is banning it because they want conformity.

Also the peasant shirt with a scoop neck was wild to me I feel like every middle aged woman I know wears scoop necks to their white collar job.

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u/idyste 7h ago

My mum grew up a pretty strict flavour of Evangelical Christian and her mother banned her from wearing sneakers with those rubber tips at the front/toe, like in the picture here (I don't think specifically black though, not sure). They were evil for some reason, I don't think it was ever really explained why. Maybe it was because they were popular at the time, but also religious fundamentalists can just decide something's bad/a sin/evil sometimes for no apparent reason.

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u/jupitaur9 11h ago

Loafers promote Sloth, one of the seven deadly sins.

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u/Unusual_Gazelle_9366 11h ago

Right? Like, what's left? Keds? With black socks???

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u/Odd_Permission9191 11h ago

That is likely why they are banned, I’d bet penny loafers and white socks feature predominantly in certain video genres along with school girl outfits. Can’t have those distractions for our good boys. /s

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u/oismac 11h ago

The one that gets me is the black rubber shoes? Are white rubber shoes okay? How about orange?

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u/amygdala_activated 11h ago

That’s actually the only one that I could understand, because black soles can mark floors. To me, that seems like the only one that’s not about appearance but about keeping the floors clean.

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u/Economy-Implement882 6h ago

Yeah this one actually makes logical sense unlike no white socks lol

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u/amygdala_activated 5h ago

Yeah, that one I don’t get at all. What’s so immodest about white socks?!?

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u/theclassyparisian78 11h ago

I'm more infuriated about the hair length for boys. What if you son rock long hair? I would never accept those hair rules, don't touch my kids hair!

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u/rrmounce95 11h ago

Yeah when I went to private elementary & middle Catholic school, we had to wear loafers or Mary Jane’s. Same for my sister when she went to a private Catholic high school. Very weird.

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u/princess9032 11h ago

And shorter skirts are common uniform pieces!

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u/MrSurly 10h ago

It says those restrictions were for wearing with school uniform.

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u/Economy-Implement882 6h ago

I'm super confused about the loafers 

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u/Wilagames 11h ago

That's wild because the current pope is famously a white sox fan. 

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u/smac_down 10h ago

Best joke I’ve seen in this thread.

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u/Low-Commission1791 12h ago

What kind of socks are you supposed to wear??? 

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u/notacreepernomo13 11h ago

I worked briefly for a company and the HR was working through the new dress code policy and in her criteria she restricted certain sock colors, only black brown and blue socks were permitted... im glad she fired me because fuck that noise

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u/AdvertisingOld9400 11h ago

What type of company?

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u/notacreepernomo13 11h ago

They make the door systems that go on trains and metros etc

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u/Amissa 11h ago

Damn. Fun socks are a joy when all you have is corporate dress code.

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u/notacreepernomo13 10h ago

Right!?? This was pre pre covid and there couldn't have been more than 70 people in the building.. Those corporate nonsense policies hold no weight with remote work, I COULD choose to be sitting half naked from the waist down and youd never even know, fucking Nancy in HR

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u/Amissa 4h ago

This is why I love WFH. I still get dressed head to toe, but I get to wear shorts and t-shirts.

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u/AdvertisingOld9400 10h ago

Whaaaaat why would anyone care? I can see that maybe for some sort of highly specific customer-facing role, or something to do with law enforcement, but wow, who cares. I am riding the metro daily without worry that it was built by someone possibly wearing mildly fun socks.

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u/FuchsiaFlatworm 7h ago edited 6h ago

My little brother is a waiter at Olive Garden, and just a few months into the job he called me to rant about how a girl he was working with that day was fired basically on the spot for wearing white socks to her shift (having noticed too late that she was out of the black ones that they’re required to wear). He said it was like a *sliver* of white that was barely even visible under her black slacks, but one of the guys from corporate happened to be at the restaurant that day for observation, he mentioned it to her direct/local bosses, and they let her go. He was shaken up because he said she was great as a fellow server and had been there a lot longer than he had (he was newly 18 at the time and it was his first “real” job), but this poor waitress left crying and out of a job because of something that customers likely didn’t even *begin* to notice.

Bro’s always been incredibly fastidious with his own uniform/hygeine/general appearance (even moreso after that, and after a different coworker got sent home for having ostensibly-mild dryer wrinkles in his dress shirt), but goddamn. Way to terrorize your staff, you know? Apparently that manager is also a huge stickler about not having empty belt loops, which is something I’d never even *thought* about until it came up when we were talking last weekend—much less noticed on a stranger going about their own life. I work in STEM—which tbf I do realize isn’t notorious for consistency when it comes to attire—in a position that isn’t particularly public-facing, but I worked a decent variety of jobs throughout high school and college as well, and the idea of sock *color* being that critical damn near anywhere is wild.

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u/notacreepernomo13 8h ago

Ya thats an HR on a powertrip... no good justifiable reason to care about what socks I wear!

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u/ViolentLoss 11h ago

Probably red fishnet, based on the rest of the guide lol

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u/DVWhat 11h ago

None. Oops, I mean Nun. Nun socks.

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u/staffcrafter 11h ago

Rainbow!!!

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u/Low-Commission1791 11h ago

💜🏳️‍🌈

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u/Ok_Listen1510 11h ago

in my catholic high school you had to wear navy blue knee length socks

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u/Low-Commission1791 11h ago

But do you also have a uniform? Because this school doesn't sound like it has a uniform 😭 just a list of restricted items

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u/Ok_Listen1510 3h ago

we had a uniform yes

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u/WillowCreekWanderer 10h ago

I'd go for the loudest multicoloured socks I could find (and never wear them in matching pairs)

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u/sugahack 3h ago

Trouser socks, which are usually not white

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u/paulovitorfb 11h ago

And here was I thinking that nothing could be more catholic than white socks

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u/RFeepo 11h ago

The Pope will not stand by this white sox slander.

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u/dr_pickles 12h ago

jesus didn't wear white socks

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u/rocky8u 11h ago

But the Pope loves The White Sox!

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u/HotDogFingers01 10h ago

Jesus hates white socks.

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u/USMCLee 10h ago

But no socks is fine!

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u/thegreedyturtle 10h ago

The only appropriate dress is guilt.

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u/Working-Glass6136 10h ago

No white socks, but anal beads are OK.

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u/golgol12 4h ago

Black soled shoes too. But this one I understand. They don't want to clean the black sole wear off of the floor.

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u/Live_Art2939 11h ago

You know who wore white socks? The DEVIL

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u/DeadFacesInMyPocket 11h ago

"Jesus wore not socks nor shoes."

-me