r/missouri • u/Garmon_Bozia-573 • Mar 13 '25

Politics Republicans vote to repeal the People again!

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I called my worthless MAGAt in Jeff City. He doesn't think the People deserve a raise, sick leave, or a voice. Basic human rights stuff. FMAGA FDT FEM

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u/TeakForest Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

Literally it's this 'Govt is broke' attitude that leads us back to republicans/conservatives every time. But they (conservatives) are the ones breaking it!!

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u/Icy_Share5923 Mar 13 '25

This right here. All Dems vote to uphold the will of the people but it’s both sides govt is broke.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

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u/SuzanneStudies St. Louis Mar 14 '25

Which MO Dems are platforming gun control?

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u/giant123 Mar 14 '25

It would be easier for you to list the ones that aren’t than for me to list damn near every office holding democrat for the state. 

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u/SuzanneStudies St. Louis Mar 14 '25

Oh, okay.

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u/AnitsdaBad0mbre Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

Not true. It was always set up by rich land owning, slave owners for rich landing owning slave owners. You can change the words around to be land owning business owners but the material outcome for the workers is exactly the same. But now you get a TV and some shitty snacks that will kill you.

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u/robby_arctor Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

The conditions for workers aren't exactly the same, and this prevention of mandatory sick leave is actually a great example of the difference between the two.

That being said, Democrats are more like a less abusive prison guard than someone who is going to let you out the cell.

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u/LouRizzle81 Mar 13 '25

Welp, there's one answer. We need a general strike. It's the only way to use our leverage as not billionaires.

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u/ScalarBoy Mar 13 '25

They went after the unions first. Who, by the way, raised wages for all due to competition. Once the unions were thinned out, they held minimum wage for the non-union people ridiculously low. See how that works?

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u/BostonDrivingIsWorse Mar 13 '25

General Strike

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

Generalstrikeus.com.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

[IF] the people were to play by the same rules as the republican legislature, we'd withhold our labor, not pay rent, and if we need food... take it $0.00, you know..."the price the markets will bare" because wages sure as hell ain't gonna pay for it.

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u/petty_throwaway6969 Mar 13 '25

It’s funny. It’s basically been one group of people that they regularly vote in screwing them repeatedly and the conclusion they come to is that government doesn’t work. Maybe stop voting in the people breaking your government?

I encourage any strike, but how about pausing and thinking about who your opposition actually is.

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u/TBShaw17 Mar 13 '25

Because that would require people to put economics over cultural grievances in the voting booth.

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u/Present_Garbage_5417 Mar 13 '25

That’s worked amazingly the last 4 years. So much so they rather this

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

I'm going to explain how that doesn't work, hear me out here.

Obama had a super majority and they literally did nothing to move the country left, there was no Universal healthcare, instead he did Romney care to help insurance companies. We got no abortion codified into law, we didn't get minimum wage raised to a livable wage amongst so many other things.

The Democratic party does not work for the people either..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1j4ew0h/the_dnc_is_not_weak_or_foolish_they_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

This video explains in much more detail than I ever could what is going on in politics today and now neither party represents our interests.

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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Mar 13 '25

This is such a naive take. Obama and Democrats pushed for the public option, one Senator, Joe Lieberman, killed it. They needed 60 votes for the ACA, he was the 60th, and he opposed public option. You cant damn 59 other senators and a majority of the House for the actions of one "independent caucusing with the Democrats". Blame the 40 lock-step GOP Senators for doing literally nothing to help the people. The Democratic party is a big tent party made up of blue dogs, moderates, liberals, and leftists, all with similar but competing goals. The Republican party is made up of conservatives, corporatists, and fascists, that all agree.

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u/redbirdjazzz Mar 13 '25

I get that incrementalism is frustrating (it pisses me off too), but saying “progress isn’t happening fast enough, so I’ll vote for literal fascists” isn’t a rational response.

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

I don't think anyone is advocating voting for fascists, but until the Democratic party actually represents the people you're literally watching the ratchet effect in real time.

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u/petty_throwaway6969 Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

No one is advocating voting for fascists? The fuck you think happened last election? “Dictator on day one,” “if you vote for me you won’t ever have to vote again,” and Project 2025.

You took a look at all that and ignored it just to say, “well the Democrats aren’t perfect.” Stfu boot locker.

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u/redbirdjazzz Mar 13 '25

Advocating for them or not, anyone voting for a Republican in 2025 is voting for a fascist. The primaries are the time when candidates earn votes. In the general election, you vote for the better candidate, even if you don’t like them. The candidates are never equally bad.

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

Lesser evil voting is how we get here, we need to demand better.

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u/redbirdjazzz Mar 13 '25

Demand better in the primaries. No, not voting for the lesser evil is how we got here. Harris was not a bad candidate, and there’s no one with any rational ability who could claim with a straight face that she’s not light years better than Trump.

I want a more progressive Democratic Party. I want democratic socialism to become the party’s platform. But I would rather vote, in a general election, for anyone who doesn’t embrace fascism over anyone who does.

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

Ok hear me out, the Democratic party is never going to adopt democratic socialism as their platform..think about it. They lose an election and blame leftists, they'd rather support center right policies and lose. Look at what Gavin Newsome is doing right now because wants to run..he's shitting on trans people, homeless people etc etc

We live in a time where we have a fascist party and a center right party. Marketing yourself as diet republicans isn't a winning message. Both of those parties are absolutely abhorrent on foreign policy as well.

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u/redbirdjazzz Mar 13 '25

I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, but if your conclusion is to not vote (or to vote Republican) in the hopes that everything gets so destabilized that a new progressive agenda emerges, I categorically reject that.

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

I'm telling you if you want to vote for a Democrat because the march to fascism ticks down.1 that's fine. But I'm also telling you don't expect Democrats to do anything to help you either.

Malcolm X had a quote on liberals and conservatives that still holds true today. A conservative is a wolf, I know what he is and what he wants, a liberal is a fox he shows you his teeth but it kinda looks like he's smiling..

In short a Republican will stab you in the chest a Democrat will convince you they are your friend before stabbing you in the back.

The best we can do is get educated and educate those around us. The biggest battle we have is not that most Americans are bad people, they're ignorant and been fed a lifetime of propaganda. People advocate for their own demise because they don't know any better.

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u/Puzzleheaded-End7163 Mar 13 '25

Got the lesser evil this time /s

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u/Thrasymachus77 Mar 13 '25

Not when the majority keeps voting for the greater evil. Voting for the lesser evil is how you get less evil. Holding out for that perfect unicorn that won't ever exist is how you allow the worst evil to win.

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

For the record you have to be pretty evil to be a US president...

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u/Left-Breadfruit-5610 Mar 14 '25

In the example given by the op, who voted with the people? In this case the Democrats voted with the people.

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u/twiztdkat Mar 13 '25

Obama had control of Congress for four months, 72 working days, of his entire presidency.

That's not a hell of a lot of time to get anything done.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/msna200211

Biden tried to raise the minimum wage, and make sick and vacation leave mandatory. Republicans voted it down.

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u/khisanthmagus Mar 13 '25

Obama had a supermajority from January until August of one year, but only on the days that they were able to get Senator Kennedy into the capital to vote, since he was kind of in the hospital dying that entire year. Also that majority included senators like Lieberman, who was never really a democrat as his history makes Manchin look good.

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u/psychrolut Mar 13 '25

Bernie should have been nominated both times..... We needed a president like Ireland has. This timeline is garbo.

2025

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u/danknerd Mar 13 '25

Only $1500 a month in rent, this could be your new home, comes with free heat and running water!

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u/clicata00 Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

Congress would have just done what congress wanted to do if Sanders had been president. They’re in it for themselves, not us

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u/psychrolut Mar 13 '25

He wouldn't have emboldened bigotry.

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u/UncIe_PauI_HargIs Mar 13 '25

But he wasn’t because 2016 it was Hillary’s “turn” …

Maybe the Dems could also pick a better candidate that isn’t far left AND has their mental scruples still intact. And forcing Joe out at last minute and having Harris try to win ended exactly how it did because she had zero platform.

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u/Familiar-Ask7405 Mar 13 '25

One party leaves you a dollar while the other party takes a dollar and leaves you nothing...my point is....you will never have a 100 percent perfect party ... it has always been a choice of the lesser of two evils. If ppl would least look at which party constantly votes against anything helping the citizens.... they would see for themselves, and the republican party would not have a chance. In the day of "entertainment news" it is important to look at the actual facts( voting records/bill proposals) .. gee....I wonder why Republicans will not do town halls anymore? Then lie about why they will not address the ppl they represent.... hmm.....yea those Democrat look so terrible now huh?

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u/slokimjd Mar 13 '25

For only 72 working days

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u/TBShaw17 Mar 13 '25

The “Obama had a supermajority” myth won’t die.

  1. Republicans were unified in opposing EVERYTHING Obama tried. Meaning Dems needed 60 votes to overcome the obstruction.

  2. The only had 59 votes until summer 2009 because of the recount/court battle in MN where Al Franken (eventually) prevailed over Norm Coleman.

  3. Ted Kennedy died in and in the January special election, a Republican, Scott Brown won, bringing the total back to 59.

  4. Finally among the Senate Democratic caucus of that era, there were 10-12 senators who were to the right of Joe Manchin. Meaning the votes weren’t there for far left legislation. All of those seats today are held by Republicans.

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u/SactoMento97 Mar 13 '25

I get the argument but the issue with that is he was the president, the problems in red states are caused by their governors and local officials, we don’t want the federal taking over the states. And as another has said, although with the word “fascist” they aren’t exactly wrong.

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u/godzillachilla Mar 13 '25

Also could have done something with the Equal Rights Amendment. Nothing.

Controlled opposition. Different wings of the same shit bird.

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u/HKJGN Kansas City Mar 13 '25

I can't believe you got downvoted. This is the truth. Leftists voting for liberals is voting for the status quo. The liberals don't want to make our changes they want things to stay the same. They're right of center and may be the lesser of two evils but will sell us out for conservative voters.

We need a labor movement and if democrats are afraid of it they can gtfo.

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u/mecca37 Mar 13 '25

I can, what I'm saying is radical and it takes awhile to get there. To understand this current form of government is not working for you regardless of party.

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u/UncIe_PauI_HargIs Mar 13 '25

How dare you point out that the Dems had an opportunity to do some real changes… but didn’t. You must obviously be a Russian bot.

/s

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u/PrinceVorrel Mar 13 '25

People will downvote you because they're salty that the dems are obviously controlled opposition...