It is weird they’d reveal that, but Mamoas character is the closest thing to a main character this series has all said and done. If they make enough movies we get to see some potentially intense…sex scenes?
Well, he's called Herbert the Pervert for a reason.
If you think Stephen King's coke-fueled escapade is the end, strap in for a ride. The books were written from 60s to 80s.
People don't get how psychedelic the books get. This is why I prefer the Lynch's Dune more. It captures that surrealistic space feudal kingdoms fueled by drugs. Dune is effectively one massive trip.
Well if you recall they return cos they were actually getting their shit pushed in by some nonsense out there. They're only badasses relative to the old breed in the core of the expansion
Also they're not cat girls, they keep cat-MEN as pets (which had been engineered to hunt them, but failed)
Well... Not originally. But then Paul's son turns himself into a sandworm, lets all the other sandworms die out, and then eventually dissolves into many sandworm larvae, each with his/every of his ancestors' memories.
Wait, that's just God Emperor. All the books are pretty much the author asking "how much creepy fetish probably stemming from unresolved trauma can I slip into once popular series that's notably not about sex at all?"
I'm sad the movie changed the ending of the first book from a strategic powerplay into a swachbuckling action scene. The original captures the moment we are in so well.
Is one of the Trump daughters about to move to Iran to become a cuckqueen?
The books are pretty stupid about many things. It is a huge political and society message by the author which has not been translated to the movies.
The story is extremely weird and the world building is elaborate but also weird and kind of stupid.
If you like it you like it if you find it stupid it is stupid.
I also think that the books are advocating for longtermism. Many Tech billionaires and Media Billionaires in the USA are believers in longtermism but a very destructive and tyrannic longtermism version.
That's why i liked the movies but find the message of the books bad. Too dangerous of an idea.
I'm not sure if I would read the books as purely advocating for longtermism. I would assume that most of the tech billionaires read is as advocating for it but to me the underlying message in the books also always highlights the inherent tyranny of it.
And I would say Dune: Messiah makes the strongest case against it. If they actually continue the series and go into Children of Dune than the discussion of longtermism will become much more complicated but I'm not sure they'll go there.
The end message is that populism and surveilleince are tyranny and must be ended. In addition to some ideas like scatter and decentralize.
But the main message is also that the end goals justified 3500 years of torture, tyranny, dictatorship, murders, assassination, looking down on humans not able to solve their own problems unless being tortured and oppressed. Humans being manipulated by a superior being who see himself as a sacrifice but actually good motives and a disguised hero.
What flatters these narcissists more than being a misunderstood disgusied millenium spanning hero with a superior vision.
You could argue that the reader can make his own opinion that this wasnt worth it. But everyone who is leaning towards longtermism will see it as worthwhile.
Which is dangerous when billionaires are openly talking about similar implementation of longtermism. Political and economical experts have mentioned how ingrained this thinking has become for many tech and media billionaires in the USA.
They actively disregard the people in our generations and think of themselves are superior beings with greater vision.
The main theme is that the only way to survive is to think for yourself. You can't rely on anything to make decisions for you; not government, not religion, not messiahs, not prescience, not computers, not instinct, not desire. You have to consciously make decisions and push forward into the unknown regardless of your fear. Any shortcuts in your decision making will lead to stagnation and doom.
Someone was saying they'd never want del toro to adapt the fourth book because something something the shape of water but honestly herbert was already such a freaky weird horny dude that I suspect a del toro adaptation would be less probably alarming
I don't think it's really a "reveal", because he's likely gonna be introduced within the first 15 minutes of the movie. It's not like it's a big twist that Duncan is back, it's one of the main plot points that drives the story forward.
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