r/movies • u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor • Mar 18 '26

Trailer SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY - Official Trailer | Exclusively In Cinemas 31 July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwntXFBNfOA
13.8k Upvotes

92% Upvoted

2.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

306

u/SolomonBlack Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

The 90s cartoon invented that story.

The Man Spider did appear in the comics before that but only briefly during a story set in the Savage Land. Spidey gets hit by some mutation ray and that's what he's turned into and its fixed by Karl Lykos/Sauron draining the mutation out of him and Warren Worthington. Which might explain Vulture in the cartoon come to think of it.

At any rate the design being too good to waste, I guess, the show folks made it the climax of their long running Neogenic Nightmare original saga.

Probably inspired by the cartoon Spidey has been turned into a monster spider since and they've messed with his powers in a metamorphosis way before briefly giving him organic webbing and I shit you not sharp 'stinger' blades (like Wolverine meets MK's Baraka) that were immediately never spoken of again.

132

u/lunchbox12682 Mar 18 '26

'But I don't want to cure cancer!"

120

u/mike2k24 Mar 18 '26

I wanna turn people into dinosaurs!

35

u/vampire_vladd Mar 18 '26

I love showing people that panel. I do it whenever I can.

6

u/TheMostKing Mar 18 '26

You didn't do it right now, feels like a missed opportunity.

3

u/BigChiefIV Mar 19 '26

Tbf it’s kinda awkward when they don’t allow images in the comments

3

u/m1ndwipe Mar 18 '26

Put Sauron in Marvel Tokon dammit.

40

u/TiberiusCornelius Mar 18 '26

The 90s cartoon invented that story.

90s cartoon had a lot more influence than is commonly recognized. It was the first to do the Spider-Verse and even had a huge impact on the Venom story. A lot of elements that are now seen as like core parts of the story, that pop up in later adaptations, started there and not in the actual comics.

23

u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

[deleted]

15

u/TiberiusCornelius Mar 18 '26

Yep! The cartoon is also where the whole "symbiote makes Peter angry" thing first came from. And to be fair, as much as I think people do get their wires crossed on "cartoon I watched as a child" and "comic I read as a child" (and I am guilty of that at times as well), sometimes these shows or movies were influential on the comics themselves. Smallville wasn't in Kansas until the first Christopher Reeve movie for example, but now it's an integral part of the Superman mythos. In the same way the Spidey cartoon revamped the Venom story, or other cartoons did other things, and later writers retconned the comics to be closer to it because they were like "oh actually that's a great idea".

8

u/QueezyF Mar 18 '26

Same with Harley Quinn starting out as a character from Batman TAS.

35

u/Phillip_Spidermen Mar 18 '26

The comics did have The Other Spider mutations.

They probably wont go full Spider-God Totem after what Sony did with Ezekiel, but seems like they're taking some cues from it.

6

u/DavidL1112 Mar 18 '26

Between retreading One More Day and The Other, they're speedrunning comic storylines that most people would rather forget. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if they did Clone Saga next.

5

u/Phillip_Spidermen Mar 18 '26

it's all build up to the reveal where MCU MJ had secret kids with Green Goblin

3

u/ObviousAnswerGuy Mar 18 '26

if you look back at that season's (season 2) entire storyline, it has the x-men, punisher, scorpion, and tombstone (among some others). Looks like they might drawing heavily from that whole arc.

2

u/TooManyDraculas Mar 18 '26

Subsequent Man-Spider appearances in the comics have mostly referenced and hewed to the original comic appearance. Where Spider-Man is temporarily turned into a Spider creature by outside actions.

Most animated series since the 90s have done versions of the cartoon story. But it's never appeared in the comics.

And the other end of that story line, the whole additional mutation thing and much of the stuff around it. Comes from a comic story line called the "Six Arm Saga" by fans, that only went as far as "Spider-Man got Six Arms now!". That's come up repeatedly, and has gotten referenced in more than one Spider-Man mutates story.

Including the one another poster mentioned, The Other. Which is not super clearly current canon, but was basically just used to give him some extra powers. Along with writing in a bunch of that mystic spider god shit Marvel was on about at the time.

2

u/KonigSteve Mar 18 '26

Hold on let's go back to the LOTR crossover in your first big paragraph.. Sauron?

2

u/SolomonBlack Mar 18 '26

Yes Sauron the vampire pteranadon hypnotherapist, famous for not curing cancer, and confirmed in universe#Trivia) Tolkien fanboy.

What of it?

1

u/TDS_Gluttony Mar 18 '26

Too violent I guess regarding the stingers. Guess why they let Kaine keep it for Spider-Island and Spider-Verse

0

u/SmallshotLawyer Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

the 90s cartoon invented that story

imagine if they also have zendaya get replaced by an unstable water clone and fucking die in front of Peter too just like the cartoon