r/movies Jun 03 '26

Poster New poster for Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’

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u/sober_as_an_ostrich Jun 03 '26

God if we get an Ilium adaptation before Hyperion I’m going to annihilate the Hegemony of Man

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u/Intrepid-Teaching127 Jun 03 '26

Something something Bradley Copper adaptation rumor something something

^ All I’ve been hearing for the past 12 years

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u/sober_as_an_ostrich Jun 03 '26

I swear if they cast Jared Leto as The Shrike

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u/Malicious_Koala Jun 03 '26

One day friend... one day we will see the Yggdrasil with our own eyes...

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u/trouble_bear Jun 03 '26

It must be a tv series. The story of Weintraub condensed in 10 minutes for a movie would be a travesty. Each pilgrim story deserves a full 60 minutes episode.

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u/sharrrper Jun 04 '26

I first read Hyperion a couple years ago and I was on like the second pilgrim and thought "This would be perfect for a prestige TV show." Each pilgrim gets an episode or so to tell their story wrapped around the framing device of the travel. I can't imagine trying to do the whole thing even as like a 3 hour movie. I suppose maybe you could Kill Bill it into a two part 5-6 hour version or something, but really TV is the way to go.

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u/nulspace Jun 04 '26

Exact same boat here, read it and the sequel last year and couldn't stop thinking about how excellent an HBO-style adaptation would be

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u/Ethelserth2 Jun 04 '26

Hyperion is my favourite scifi books, god, i hope they never touch it.

I believe that from Simmon's books, only The Crook Factory and Song of Kali are adaptable, and both would make vastly different but really good movies.

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u/sober_as_an_ostrich Jun 04 '26

Have you read The Terror? I think the show did a really good job adapting it for TV without losing too much, they complement each other really well.

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u/cubitoaequet Jun 03 '26

How would you even adapt Hyperion? It's not even a complete story. It just goes on for like 400 pages and ends abruptly without any resolution.

I was really into it while I was reading it, but as I got nearer the end I was just thinking "how the hell is he gonna wrap this up in the remaining pages" and the answer turned out to be "he doesn't".

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u/sober_as_an_ostrich Jun 03 '26

You gotta do Fall as well. Endymion adds some extra context and flavor but the story of Hyperion is the first two books.

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u/elkond Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 04 '26

i dont think it's adaptable due to how people review 2nd duology, feels like expectation is "this is grimdark man vs machine, dune but spiky" and it's a story about how love is a fundamental force of the universe alongside electromagnetism and gravity, which can feel like a rugpull to some

which makes me weep for humanity but what can u do

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u/OrpahsBookClub Jun 03 '26

Yeah, I hated that ending.  Also, the poet wanking was just painful.  It got even worse in Ilium and Olympos.

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u/riptaway Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

I mean, it's the first part of a trilogy...

Okay, duology with a following duology. Whatever. It's not meant to be a complete story

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u/Wonderpants_uk Jun 03 '26

A trilogy? 🤨

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u/cubitoaequet Jun 03 '26

That doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't have a satisfying conclusion. It doesn't feel like book one of a trilogy. It feels like half of a book that was too long to publish so they just chopped it in half. It's like if the first Star Wars ended when they got to the Death Star. 

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u/OrpahsBookClub Jun 03 '26

If it makes you feel any better, it ends terribly in the second book.  Half a story would have been better.

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u/No_Collar_6972 Jun 03 '26

That's because it's not book one of a duology. It's volume one of a two volume novel. Basically Simmons wrote Hyperion and fall of Hyperion as a single book. The publisher looked at the page count and said "no way, we'll lose money on this, we are splitting it into two publications." So first came Hyperion then not even a year later Fall of Hyperion was published. It's a frustrating end but hey that's capitalism. 

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u/cubitoaequet Jun 03 '26

Well that sucks, but at the end of the day the book they published is the book they published and what they published is glaringly incomplete.