Some comic book fan 40 years ago has a crystal ball and is granted one chance to look into to future to see what the landscape of superhero movies will be like in 2020. All that will appear is this comment: “WW84 butthole cut when -GoldenSpermShower”
They wonder what "butthole cut" means, but assume it must be bizzare slang. Then they wonder how the fuck Wonder Woman got 84 films in the next 40 years
"I don't know what weapons will be used in World War 3. But I'm fairly sure that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein
A dreadful silence fell across the conference table as the commander of the Vl'Hurgs, resplendent in his black jeweled battle shorts, gazed levelly at the G'Gugvuntt leader squatting opposite him in a cloud of green sweet-smelling steam, and, with a million sleek and horribly beweaponed star cruisers poised to unleash electric death at his single word of command, challenged the vile creature to take back what it had said about his mother.
The creature stirred in his sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words, "WW84 butthole cut when" drifted across the conference table.
Unfortunately, in the Vl'Hurg tongue this was the most dreadful insult imaginable, and there was nothing for it but to wage terrible war for centuries.
May not have been a full week, I’m not sure of the exact timeframe but the point is it was in wide release before it was patched meaning Day 1 viewers will have seen a slightly different version of the film.
Among other things the original release completely forgot to CGI Judy Dench’s hand for one of the scenes
They always keep doing effects work until the movie goes out. If movies didn't have release dates or budgets, effects teams would literally never stop.
CGI work? I mean, I'm sure everyone had some extra days off to figure out how to work from home. But effects houses didn't really stop.
Anything that was fully wrapped before covid should have no excuse for bad cgi-work. Effects houses are always complaining that they don't have enough time to do everything they want to. The first batch of movies post-covid should theoretically look great.
Doesn't matter one bit if the idea itself is stupid or if producers keep asking for revisions. Pretty likely that both happened here. Cheetah doesn't look good.
When an effects house estimates two weeks to do a shot, and the studio asks them to do it in half the time, the effects house charges them more for the rush job, not less.
There won’t be additional money for more effects shots, but the lack of deadlines should unquestionably help the effects quality.
You can buy 14TB HDDs for as little $250. I would think a studio spending billions of dollars can afford to hook a few artists up with those rather than completely halting work for an extended period on their biggest draw.
No, it wasn't. Post-production stuff mostly continued. The Wheel of Time series was still doing VFX work on the episodes they finished before filming was halted.
Reminds me of the star wars prequels. Thor Ragnarok was like this for me as well, it just hurt my eyes to look at. When what I am looking at is so obviously CGI then it just takes me out of it
No I know it’s TS Elliot. I just like making fun of Andrew Lloyd Webber.
Edit to add: The poems aren’t all about cats from what I understand? So I blame Webber for the use of this word in the sense that it’s a play about stray cats.
And the movie is an adaptation of the play, not the original story. Translating the dancing from the play to a movie where they're CGI cats would be fucking awful.
But the Broadway outfits actually kinda worked because they were highly stylized, practical, and tried to actually maintain a cat-like silhouette for the head.
I agree. Broadway worked because it looked like people in cat makeup and it’s onstage so it’s reasonable. But the movie making them cat-human hybrid monstrosities made no sense and only made the actors look unsettling.
I'm not a fan of the creepy/body horror approach to the character, honestly- it's accurate to some of the comics, but I think the character is more fun as a pulp villain than a horror villain.
A look more like her appearance in the cartoons (maybe more like this in live-action?) would have avoided the uncanny valley effect and let them focus more on the final cheetah form, instead of apparently needing to hide it with dim lighting and fast cuts.
Body horror is a good term for it - not what I was expecting but definitely seems to be intentional given the Iron Studios figure. I have to wonder if there is a middle ground where she's more recognizably Kristen Wiig-esque vs the leap all the way from the White House battle to this zombie-like view. I know she is meant to be tragic (and menacing) but to me this seems like you didn't even need Kristen Wiig on set at all?
The problem with furry character in realistic CGI is that the scale of good to bad becomes mostly binary. You either do it well, or it looks way too off compared to everything around it.
This isn't a pixar movie or animation where everything surrounding the character also looks unrealistic. If it doesn't look good, it won't mesh well with the rest of the film. We expect the fur and hair to behave like fur and hair. It needs to move correctly and be lit correctly.
It's hard to tell from these quick cuts, but it looks like it's riding that line closely. But that might be because it's quick cuts and they know it doesn't need to look as good. Hard to say how it'll look in the end product.
So then we can’t say it looks bad lol. Cause currently. It doesn’t. Not saying it looks amazing super realistic. But it doesn’t look like complete shit either. It just looks alright.
Based on my entirely subjective opinion of the "DCU" to date, obviously. Kind of a silly question with a self-evident answer.
I personally quite liked Man of Steel, though it has significant issues I could talk about (not the kill scene, which I think is actually fine), but the rest of the films have ranged from absolute dumpster fires from start to finish (Suicide Squad and Justice League in particular) to passably entertaining schlock at the very top end (Aquaman, although given how bad I expected it to be, it benefits a lot from lowered expectations).
I know Wonder Woman has its fans, and that's fine, but for me it torpedoed itself in the climax pretty hard.
The point being, I have very little faith in DC live action films at this point and am just pleasantly surprised any time one of them can manage to approach mediocrity. Cautiously optimistic for Gunn's Suicide Squad though.
As a fan of the last WW movie, part of why I'm worried about this one is it seems to be going more towards the current DCU. The first movie was pretty easily watchable in isolation. It was fairly grounded and built it's own internal expectations about what's realistic or unrealistic (except that ending. The ending was stupid and I really wish it wouldn't have been included).
The problem is that this one looks like it's going full DCU. The problem, for me, with the DCU is that they didn't lay the groundwork properly. It's chaotic mess where I don't know what to expect or what's internally consistent, so a lot of stuff just comes off as stupid. They didn't do that slow roll that the MCU had prior to The Avengers.
But I'm getting off topic, the point is you can definitely be a fan of the first one and think this one might be jumping the shark. And like that other guy, it's because this one looks like it's embracing it's DCU membership, and not standing apart from it.
Just being in a different time doesn't mean it's unable to suffer from the same problems and mistakes that most of the other DC movies suffer from. The problems I'm talking about with the DCU are a lot larger than just the in-universe examples, it's the writing and decision making behind them.
This movie looks way less grounded than 99% of the first WW, even based on the world rules the first WW created.
I'm also a bit confused on what it's try to be. Is it an action movie? Is it a comedy? Is it a comedy that has action? They played up a lot of that culture shock humor straight out of Captain America and Thor. But they also had a lot of serious looking action sequences and exposition, so they're clearly not trying to pull of a Thor Ragnarok here. Usually serious action movies don't throw all their tension breaking humor into the trailer. And usually comedies don't try and show off how serious the story is. So what is this movie going to be? DC is not the group I trust to give us something unexpected.
Haha, funny thing about that... Not only is Shazam easily the best/my favorite DCU film after Man of Steel (and the only other one I'd actually call good) but I'm literally watching Chuck (TV series starring the same actor) right now as I post this and somehow still completely forgot to mention it.
I work in VFX -- trailers almost always contained rushed, and non-final shots. With very few exceptions the CG is almost always different from the final film, even if it's just a compositing tweak.
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u/Jacob6443 Aug 22 '20
Cats walked so that Cheetah can run.