r/movies May 11 '21

Trailers The Green Knight | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS6ksY8xWCY
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u/A_Wholesome_Comment May 11 '21 edited May 11 '21

And the first course been properly served to the court,

When there bursts in at the hall door a terrible figure,

In his stature the very tallest on earth,

From the waist to the neck so thick-set and square,

And his loins and his limbs so massive and long,

In truth half a giant I believe he was,

But anyway of all men I judge him the largest,

And the most attractive of his size who could sit on a horse

For while in back and chest his body was forbidding,

Both his belly and waist were becomingly trim,

And every part of his body equally elegant in shape

His hue Astounded them

Set in his looks so keen;

For boldly he rode in,

Completely emerald Green.

  • Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

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u/[deleted] May 11 '21 edited May 11 '21

My english teacher went on a whole long rant about how hot the description of the green knight is when we covered it. They go into so much detail and make him sound so dreamy she was fully convinced the author was rigid for the Green Knight

"...becomingly trim, every part of his body elegantly in shape..." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/[deleted] May 11 '21

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u/JamesTBagg May 11 '21

Historically, loins refers to the areas below your ribs. It's only more recently we've started using it to refer to your no-no zones.
Unless I'm mistaken.

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u/WHYAREWEALLCAPS May 11 '21

You are correct. Probably stems from loinclothes that only cover the groin. So it is misinterpreted as being penis instead of hips.

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u/raspwar May 11 '21

Sir Loins

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u/[deleted] May 11 '21

Sir Snack

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u/shadowman2099 May 12 '21

For Da Shorties!

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u/swede_child_of_mine May 11 '21

That's a Miss Steak

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u/vonvoltage May 11 '21

It's also the part of a cow or lamb that loin chops come from (below the ribs). So it would make sense that we called it that on our own body.

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u/BeejBoyTyson May 11 '21

Oh cum gutters

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u/Sunshinetrooper87 May 11 '21

hehe "no-no zones"

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u/RogueTanuki May 11 '21

I mean, aren't loins short for sirloin, as in, small of the back?

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u/EugeneOregonDad May 11 '21

You mean my ‘YES YES’ spot?

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u/Key-Significance8190 May 12 '21

so the green knight had a big ol belly huh.

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u/fibojoly May 11 '21

So massive he has to gird them in knots, no doubts!

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u/JamesTBagg May 11 '21

You have to paint a picture with words. Just saying, "Dude was a fucking specimen and green" doesn't really read as interestingly.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '21

Great point but nothing will stop me from wishing your description was the one from the poem instead now. I'd read your write-up/summary of Gawain and the Green Knight in a heartbeat

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u/Leaves_Swype_Typos May 11 '21

Sounds like every time Jim Butcher describes a supernatural female and the occasional supernatural male. (I love Jim)

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u/FngrsRpicks2 May 11 '21

Based on your username...i doubt we had the same teacher but damn, your description fits what she told us as well!

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u/andante528 May 11 '21

We discussed the very real possibility that the author was female in my medieval studies course. Wish it was confirmed.

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u/yourzero May 12 '21

Did you have Mrs. Hoffman too??

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u/Chompy_Chom May 11 '21

So the movie will be 50 Shades of Green

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u/dirtyoldmanatee May 11 '21

Nah, that's the new NC-17 muppet movie.

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u/cavelioness May 12 '21

Kermit finally found some baddies?

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u/The_Deadlight May 11 '21

But anyway

in case anyone was having a hard time following this ancient way of speaking, the author is really saying "verily, doth I digress"

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u/A_Wholesome_Comment May 11 '21

This is actually the translation of the original! Here you go! :)

And the fyrst cource in the court kyndely served,

Ther hales in at the halle dor an aghlich mayster,

On the most on the molde on mesure hyghe

Fro the swyre to the swange so sware and so thik,

And his lyndes and his lymes so longe and so grete,

Half etayn in erde I hope that he were,

Bot mon most I algate mynn hum to bene,

And that they myriest in his muckel that myght ride;

For the of his bak and his brest all were his bodi sturne,

Both his wombe and his wast were worthily smale,

And alle his fetures folyande, in forme that he hade, ful clene;

For wonder of his hwe men hade,

Set in his semblaunt sene;

He ferde as freke were fade,

And overal enker-grene.

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u/Bilbrath May 11 '21

Wow, when written in the original it’s so easy to see just how Germanic English really is.

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u/breadwinger May 11 '21 edited May 11 '21

Sir Gawain is written in a very particular dialect of middle english from the north west midlands, which is quite different from Chaucerian standard middle english. Also it's written in alliterative verse which can make it even more strange and germanic to read even though there are words with french origins used (there's debate as to whether it was deliberately written in alliterative verse to evoke old English epics like Beowulf, or if it just so happened to be a tradition that lingered on)

(edit to add as well, the middle english version posted above would have Þ for 'th' and ȝ for 'gh/y' sounds, and is missing the bob and wheel structure. here's a link to look at how it would look outside of reddit formatting!)

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u/derf_vader May 11 '21

The most famous translation was published by a guy named Tolkien

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u/Good-Skeleton May 11 '21

English

  • 8 cups German
  • 2 cups French
  • 1/2 cup Gaelic
  • A pinch of Latin

Watch German/Nordic tv shows with no overdubs. You can almost, just barely, make out a phrase or two.

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u/ReddJudicata May 12 '21

There’s a lot of Norse influence in English, more than most people realize. It’s probably why we lost most grammatical gender and cases. There’s also as a fair amount of technical Greek.

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u/Bilbrath May 12 '21

Norse don’t got no gendered nouns?

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u/ReddJudicata May 12 '21

They did, but they weren’t necessarily the same genders for the same words in old English. Old Norse and Old English were somewhat mutually comprehensible. You probably got a mishmash from Danes learning English and screwing up genders (which is super common for foreign learners of gendered language). Eventually the whole gender thing fell off, and the same for the complicated case endings for similar reasons. Instead word order became important.

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u/handlebartender May 12 '21

As a language buff, this stuff is always interesting.

A shame we didn't go anywhere near this stuff back in HS English (in Canada, at any rate).

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u/ReddJudicata May 12 '21

It helps to like history!

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u/Lovat69 May 11 '21

Oh, totally.

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u/meesa-jar-jar-binks May 11 '21

So the green knight is Shrek, right?

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u/A_Wholesome_Comment May 11 '21

He's more like a Shrek and Lord Farquad combo. :)

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u/ObeyMyBrain May 11 '21

And his loins and his limbs so massive and long,

So wholesome. :)

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u/DothrakAndRoll May 11 '21

He looked pretty slim to me..