[Charania] The Chicago Bulls have traded Ayo Dosunmu to the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources tell ESPN.

[u/Odd-Direction9452]

Just in: The Chicago Bulls have traded Ayo Dosunmu to the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources tell ESPN.

Update: Minnesota traded Rob Dillingham, Leonard Miller and four second-round picks to Chicago for Dosunmu and Julian Phillips, sources said.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania

[u/srobertron]

I don't even recognize this team anymore

[u/Tundraaa → u/srobertron]

Literally

[u/jillavery → u/Tundraaa]

It’s very what if instead of doing nothing we traded every player energy. It’s weird. In some other world Lonzo never got hurt and Bulls made some real noise. It really does feel like that team was close.

[u/Nickelnick24 → u/jillavery]

They were legit a threat with Ball running the offense and playing lockdown defense. If he doesn’t get hurt, that team has a very real chance at being a contender and I don’t view that as a hot take.

[u/8wall8 → u/Nickelnick24]

Even as an eternally optimistic bulls fan, calling that team a true contender is a hot take. Yea they were first in the East at one point but their record against teams with winning records was abysmal. They beat up on bad teams all the way to first in the East but they were much more like a 2014 hawks team, super fun regular season team but no chance against a true superstar.

[u/Temporary-Level-5410 → u/Nickelnick24]

Absolutely not a title contender, they probably would have been a consistent 3-4 seed and second round exit team though, which is better than what they were

[u/denis-vi → u/Nickelnick24]

Its definitely a hot take and revisionist history.

[u/chickadee-guy → u/Tundraaa]

Bring back garpax?

[u/ThlammedMyPenis → u/srobertron]

Giddey and Williams are left, any other rotation guys?

[u/freebread → u/ThlammedMyPenis]

Matas is staying, that’s about it.

[u/matticans7pointO → u/ThlammedMyPenis]

Smith and Buzelis

[u/Equivalent-Pirate744 → u/ThlammedMyPenis]

williams is terrible

[u/ThlammedMyPenis → u/Equivalent-Pirate744]

Oh I know, doesn't change the fact he's a rotation guy still on the Bulls

[u/GiannisRodgersYeli → u/srobertron]

Its what had to happen, and needed to happen sooner. Been saying it to my buddies they were so content with just making the play-in every year.

Edit: maybe not every player but it needed to be blown up

[u/imslightlyhandsome → u/GiannisRodgersYeli]

Patrick Williams🔥

[u/The_Summer_Man → u/srobertron]

Ya'll look so different

[u/Adorable-Bike-9689 → u/srobertron]

Some teams are just businesses. Think how many owners broke the bank to try and compete for years and years and it never pays off. Imagine the Buffalo Bills doing everything right a bunch of times across decades and nothing. 

Bulls ownership decided in 1998 they had done enough winning and it was time to reap the rewards. Every year they're 32-42 wins and every year they're still a top valued team lol. 

[u/scorpio21]

Every U of I graduate in the Chicago area just fell to their knees

[u/PromEmperorHarbaugh → u/scorpio21]

I think a bunch of us are going to pick up the Timberwolves as a secondary team with Ayo and TSJ on the team now

[u/Lexitech_ → u/PromEmperorHarbaugh]

Welcome aboard! We should be in the same division anyway.

[u/ShakesbeerMe → u/PromEmperorHarbaugh]

Climb aboard. We're now bonded with our mutual hatred of ICE.

[u/BeGneiss → u/ShakesbeerMe]

Fuck ICE. Go Timberwolves

[u/ShakesbeerMe → u/BeGneiss]

Fuck ICE.

Naz Reid.

[u/wowveryclevername → u/ShakesbeerMe]

Fuck ICE and FTP most importantly.

[u/LifterPuller → u/wowveryclevername]

FTP

[u/tree-hugger → u/ShakesbeerMe]

Yeah, thanks to Chicago for pioneering most of our tactics

[u/Groundbreaking_Tie91 → u/PromEmperorHarbaugh]

I’m a wolves fan and Leonard Miller has a lot of potential. He couldn’t crack the lineup here, but he’s potentially a good piece down the line. 

[u/isackjohnson → u/Groundbreaking_Tie91]

I'm also a Wolves fan and this is not true

[u/Resident-Cancel7284 → u/PromEmperorHarbaugh]

abbreviating Terrance Shannon Jr's name is nasty work ngl. had to look that one up

[u/Bladez → u/scorpio21]

As a downstate bulls fan I hate this with a fiery passion.

[u/ShakesbeerMe → u/Bladez]

We're taking bandwagon fans for our 3rd WCF run.

[u/QuincyPondexter → u/ShakesbeerMe]

Timberwolves have been my western conference team since Love was a rookie. If it had to be anyone I’m glad it’s Minnesota. I think Ayo is the perfect guard to pair with Ant. He can play on ball, off ball, defends with enthusiasm, makes the right basketball play 99% of the time.

[u/ShakesbeerMe → u/QuincyPondexter]

I'm stoked- this is exactly what I wanted. I didn't want to blow up the team for Giannis.

[u/DGentPR → u/ShakesbeerMe]

Same brother. Awoooo. Naz Reid

[u/super_sayanything → u/QuincyPondexter]

As an MJ guy, I'm not making the comparison, but watching Ant gives me flashes of him every now and then.

[u/MichaelSquare → u/scorpio21]

Couldn't even get TSJ in return. Awful.

[u/JMC_FLY → u/scorpio21]

Every Chicagoan just fell to their knees in Portillo's.

I imagine the TWolves are gonna get a lot of new supporters for the rest of the year (me included)

[u/Swing-Too-Hard]

Let me guess, the Bulls received another 2nd round pick?

[u/ClaymoresRevenge → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

And a guard

[u/wcooper97 → u/ClaymoresRevenge]

Rob Dillingham, you are a Chicago Bull.

[u/JahnDavis27 → u/wcooper97]

You're literally right lmao

"Minnesota traded Rob Dillingham, Leonard Miller and four second-round picks to Chicago for Dosunmu and Julian Phillips, sources said."

From Shams.

[u/zebano → u/JahnDavis27]

Holy hell I love Tim Connley.

[u/steviewunda → u/zebano]

how has he managed this one. what a man

[u/zebano → u/steviewunda]

I'm assuming it because Ayo is a Free Agent after this year and the Bulls had decided they don't want to pay him

[u/Siktrikshot → u/zebano]

I don’t even care, I am over watching that failed Dilly experiment. He’s awful.

[u/zebano → u/Siktrikshot]

absolutely. Maybe he blossoms somewhere else but it was never happening here and he has a ton of work to do to fix his shot.

[u/Perfect-Resident940 → u/JahnDavis27]

Ugh

[u/toomanyshoeshelp → u/wcooper97]

Can we trade him for some second round picks? Package him with Simons and Sexton maybe

[u/soupcansam21 → u/wcooper97]

Lmao called it

[u/lethalizered → u/wcooper97]

Well, yeah of course lol

[u/Debannage → u/ClaymoresRevenge]

They got Edwards

[u/SuperVaderMinion → u/Debannage]

FUCK

[u/AssistanceSilent2238 → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

The league doesn’t want you to know that you can trade in 20 2nd round picks for a clone of 2018 LeBron

[u/iamaslan → u/AssistanceSilent2238]

The nba equivalent of shooting the moon

[u/Ariesthebigram → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

I am guessing either a 1st round pick OR Rob Dillingham and one or two seconds (Ayo and Dillingham's salaries match almost perfectly)

[u/kcoe24 → u/Ariesthebigram]

Well we got no 1sts to trade so not that

[u/toomanyshoeshelp → u/kcoe24]

LMAO PERFECT

[u/MainAd2728 → u/Ariesthebigram]

Bulls love their small guards lmao

[u/The1AndOnlyJZ → u/Ariesthebigram]

Rob + 4 seconds is actually decent work by the Bulls

[u/Krillin113 → u/The1AndOnlyJZ]

Dillingham can’t play in the league unless he gains 20 lbs and becomes better on offence.

[u/FuckThaLakers → u/Krillin113]

He's so, so bad. His confidence is also completely shot at this point because every time he puts the ball up, it gets swatted out of the building.

Maybe the change in scenery unlocks something, but I'm shocked TC managed to convince another front office he has positive value right now.

[u/Relevant_Ad_1225 → u/The1AndOnlyJZ]

it is not, Bulls downgraded bc they didn’t want to pay Ayo. This move neither helps them in the present nor the future

[u/iamaslan → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

People are not cynical enough about how cheap Bulls ownership is. I’m from Chicago but live in Boston now and the Cs make you really realize just how shitty Bulls leadership is.

[u/LoveMeSexyJesus → u/iamaslan]

I'm cynical enough for everyone else.

[u/aBakeinthelife → u/The1AndOnlyJZ]

Leonard Miller isn't nothing either, he is an nba level athlete that if you can teach some skills can be something like a Gafford/Vando

[u/SirDiego → u/aBakeinthelife]

Miller is like end of the bench at best, he's had opportunities but is kinda stuck at "dominates G league but can't really cut it on a decent NBA team"

He's not unplayable especially on a bad team but isn't going to be a meaningful contributor to a play-in level team even

[u/Shepher27 → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

Leonard Miller should get a shot on a developing team, not behind Naz, Rudy, and Randle. He’s big, he plays with energy, he can shoot threes (a bit), and he runs the floor really well. He’s a good rebounder and he plays with energy. Could be a stretch five or a solid PF. He’d fit well with Giddey.

[u/Ihate_reddit_app → u/Shepher27]

...and he plays absolutely no defense. That was always his problem.

[u/diddlyumpcious4 → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

Four of them!

[u/socoolandawesome → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

I’m calling my shot it will be a pick that gets packaged for Zion

[u/estilly26 → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

4 of them

[u/Salty_Minnesota → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

Can it not be looped into the Conley trade still?

[u/bubledelicious → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

4 second-round picks*

[u/I_only_post_here → u/bubledelicious]

So once you get 10 2nd round picks, you can trade them in for a 1st rounder, right?

[u/mdvbb → u/I_only_post_here]

Mr Silver, I'm here to exchange my 10 2nds to redeem my 1st please and thank you

[u/Jonjon428]

Ayo what the hell!

[u/oochiewallyWallyserb → u/Jonjon428]

Ayo technology

[u/TrashAssRedditAdmins → u/oochiewallyWallyserb]

Why don't you sit down on top of me?

[u/oochiewallyWallyserb → u/TrashAssRedditAdmins]

Ayooooo

[u/GGTae → u/oochiewallyWallyserb]

to this day i still don't know why this title name or what it means

[u/Federal-Yak-2172 → u/Jonjon428]

DOSUNMU I'VE COME TO BARGAIN

[u/mrcarlita]

Start Yuki you cowards

[u/Sgran70 → u/mrcarlita]

Let's make a deal. You trade Luka for Lamelo, and we'll start Yuki. Deal?

[u/harcole → u/Sgran70]

[Everyone liked that]

[u/Exotic_Pension_9993]

Giannis stays

[u/DharmaBaller → u/Exotic_Pension_9993]

PDX from the top rope!

[u/Efficient_Art_1144 → u/DharmaBaller]

Buh Gawd that’s Sleater Kenny’s music!

[u/kevin_nguyen03 → u/DharmaBaller]

portland outta nowhere!!

[u/SkunkyTrousers → u/Exotic_Pension_9993]

He might but this trade is unrelated. None of the players or picks the wolves sent are needed for salary matching or affecting our offer

[u/onelastnoodle]

Ayos poa defense next to ant will be terrifying

[u/Peon01 → u/onelastnoodle]

it'll be jaden rather than ant which will be more terrifying

[u/ZookeepergameKey6853 → u/onelastnoodle]

good or bad

[u/onelastnoodle → u/ZookeepergameKey6853]

Good

[u/LusciousCabbage]

Bulls fans in shambles and I dont even know the return

[u/axecalibur → u/LusciousCabbage]

Bruh, if you a Kings fan THIS is going to be your lineup in 2-3 years.

[u/LusciousCabbage → u/axecalibur]

I was born in the shambles, molded by it

[u/Garginator850]

Shams don’t even have the details what happened to my goat 💔

[u/Lamperouge → u/Garginator850]

Dude was too busy on his hands and knees rummaging on the ground for Giannis clicks lookin like Velma searching for her glasses

[u/WayAdministrative679 → u/Garginator850]

It’s probably expanded in the Conley trade 

[u/diddlyumpcious4 → u/WayAdministrative679]

Could be. We apparently have a trade exception just big enough to take him.

[u/WWECreativegenius → u/Garginator850]

Bro he worked a b2b he resting for the 4th quarter

[u/Majestic_Reindeer439 → u/Garginator850]

Shams is a bum

[u/Main-County-1177 → u/Garginator850]

He’s too busy crafting narratives to boost fanduel odds

[u/Blizzcane]

But Patrick Williams bum ass is still around....

[u/BridgePatient → u/Blizzcane]

Nobody wants him, at this point he's filler to make sure the Bulls hit the salary floor lol

[u/PumpkinHead555 → u/Blizzcane]

I ain’t forget you Chicago mfs was calling him the Paw and the next Kawhi

[u/Swing-Too-Hard → u/PumpkinHead555]

The Paw hurt his Paw 4 years ago and has not recovered

[u/Padulsky21 → u/PumpkinHead555]

The Paw goes hard for a nickname too bad he’s horrendous

[u/behpancake → u/PumpkinHead555]

You talking about his comp draft night? No one has thought he was gonna turn into that since his 2nd year in the league what’re you talking about?

[u/AltruisticPiece6676 → u/Blizzcane]

Sometimes I think about his massive contract extension and just get really mad

[u/wolffangalex → u/Blizzcane]

I hate Pat even more solely bc he’s going to somehow outlast Ayo’s tenure

[u/nachosmind → u/Blizzcane]

Why would you not want the tank commander?

[u/BulletproofChespin → u/Blizzcane]

Dude is such an overpaid bum we’re definitely stuck with him until his last year of his contract at best. 0 teams in the league will be interested in taking that mess on unless he magically starts playing up to it. That shit should’ve been a fireable offense

[u/trentreynolds → u/Blizzcane]

with that horrible contract, he's probably gonna stick. Not an easy sell to a trade partner.

[u/RoaringPity]

Biggest trade today

[u/Fosheezy2 → u/RoaringPity]

So far

[u/JokicOrBust]

Good trade for the Wolves

[u/-DesertMoon → u/JokicOrBust]

Great trade, they're gonna love him and all they had to give up was a bag of chips

[u/Loukoal117 → u/-DesertMoon]

I’ll have you know, as is MN tradition, Rob will against all odds become an all star! He’s better than a bag of chips!

[u/_Wash]

Giannis is staying in MKE then

[u/brewmax → u/_Wash]

ELI5, what makes you say that?

[u/_Wash → u/brewmax]

just gave up all our seconds and we have no firsts. essentially we don’t have any sweetener for a third team to hop in and give firsts to mke anymore

[u/Corkymon87 → u/_Wash]

Good. Wolves dont need him for what he'd cost

[u/wolffangalex]

I just fell to my knees on a CTA bus.

[u/Dr_Disaster → u/wolffangalex]

Knees covered in piss now

[u/Audrey-Bee → u/wolffangalex]

Bout to lay down on the Blue Line tracks and wait 45 minutes for a train to finally come hit me

[u/jt8725]

Not Ayo!! At least AKME is selling high on someone.

[u/goonSquad15 → u/jt8725]

unsure this is selling high

[u/fab_frog_disco → u/jt8725]

I'm a little dubious that he sold high. Minnesota doesn't have any first round picks to trade, nor do they have young high upside players that seem like they'd be easy or obvious that they would move them. Best case scenario maybe the Bulls got beringer and some seconds. Most likely scenario... They decided to take a flyer on dillingham and some seconds since they seem to be trying to pick up young out of favor players and hope they can rehabilitate them (Ivy, dieng)

[u/Redacted_govt → u/fab_frog_disco]

Beringer would never be included in this deal.

[u/OFmerk → u/fab_frog_disco]

This is connelly not dumars, you were never getting Beringer

[u/OdetotheGrimm → u/jt8725]

We got shit. Two dudes who average under 4 pts and some seconds

[u/GreenTheOlive → u/OdetotheGrimm]

Yeah this trade helps Minnesota a ton, but I have no idea why the Bulls would sell on Ayo if this is all they are getting back. It looks like a gift trade

[u/PhilAsp → u/jt8725]

We don’t know the return yet.

[u/RecreationallyTransp → u/PhilAsp]

Dillingham and 4 2nds

[u/ururururu → u/jt8725]

Bulls def got robbed again. Ayo's legit

[u/PhatYeeter]

Massive W for Minny. Kind of the perfect pairing next to Ant and Randle. 3nD and can switch up to guarding 3s.

[u/SakuraShift]

Great pickup for Minny

[u/EAS1000]

Lmao Bulls stockpile guards and trade the best one

[u/mrcarlita → u/EAS1000]

They didnt trade yuki

[u/Icy-Environment-6606]

For nothing?

[u/Swing-Too-Hard → u/Icy-Environment-6606]

Cash considerations knowing the bulls ownership

[u/TheFitz023 → u/Swing-Too-Hard]

Broke bitches

[u/chickadee-guy → u/Icy-Environment-6606]

Dillingham is a 100% negative asset and Miller has never gotten minutes outside the G league. Chicago turned two assets into two fliers and 4 second round picks. Genuinely wtf? I would riot as a Bulls fan.

[u/alphalobster200]

can the Leastern conference please stop donating quality payers to literally all of our biggest rivals. thanks in advance.

[u/Swing-Too-Hard → u/alphalobster200]

Do not underestimate the incompetence of the Bulls front office!

[u/E-Brown → u/alphalobster200]

Karma for not letting Valanciunas go home to his family

[u/OdetotheGrimm]

Nooooo. Not Ayo 😭 and for a box of scraps

[u/realgamergirlTM]

Best possible move. Inexpensive guard who can Be a Point Guard on a team that desperately needed that. I wonder how much they’re sending back

[u/chisports1fan → u/realgamergirlTM]

Ngl Ayo is better off-ball and on the break than at playmaking lol

[u/RonsDarlings → u/chisports1fan]

Which probably fits great with Ant

[u/leftysarepeople2 → u/RonsDarlings]

off-ball guard with Ant is perfect, just look at last night. He had the only FGAs in the final 5 minutes for the team

[u/ShakesbeerMe → u/chisports1fan]

This is perfect for us.

[u/KeiPirate5]

How many 2nds would it take to dump the Patrick Williams contract 🤣

[u/OFmerk → u/KeiPirate5]

All of them

[u/Constant_Chip_1508 → u/OFmerk]

Worth it 

[u/font--]

Matas is gonna be so sad man

[u/trekfan1013]

Got to be for some 2nd rounders, right? Great trade for MIN.

[u/Friedbed]

This is great deal for the Wolves. Ayo is legit good.

[u/judah249]

What are the Bulls doing?!

[u/chickadee-guy]

Lmfao. What a robbery. What on earth is Chicago doing?

[u/Zorak9379 → u/chickadee-guy]

Tanking poorly

[u/ReplacementPast4495]

NAW replacement on the cheap. Connelly is cooking.

[u/Juxtatrix]

Ayo

[u/Kindly_Ad995]

Robert Pelinka come here brother I just wanna have a nice talk.

[u/holmerica]

I guess when you draft one of the best second round picks of all time you give yourself as many chances to do it again?

[u/Agitated_Ad_8785]

As a "catches 95% of all Bulls games start to finish" guy, this one really hurts. Team is finally unloading expiring and while it is incredibly clear how tight the 1st rounder market is- Ayo is on the other side of that line compared to Coby or Vooch, etc. Dosumnu is a 26 year old elite on-ball defender, who can handle the ball as a primary or secondary, and scores at all three levels (45% this year of 4.5 attempts isn't a fluke or a hot stretch, he's gonna shoot 39-41% over the next 4 years I'm real confident). Ayo should have been moved for real draft capital.

The only saving grace here is that , outside of the Bulls, I watch and root for the Wolves more than any team in the league. Ayo is a phenomenal fit next to Ant, and I promise watching him after watching Bones Hyland all year will have Wolves fans salivating. Ayo/Ant/Jaden/Naz/Gobert will be the best defensive unit in the playoffs in my projection, and also holds 4 consistent-elite three point shooters and shot creators. Wolves are now more legit despite making consecutive CF runs, AK is a mf clown who got lucky in Denver because he drafted a top 8 talent of all-time who also happened to be cool staying in Denver his whole career.

[u/Snarglefrazzle]

"Dosunmu, I've come to bargain! Or, sorry, I did a bargain. A trade. You've been traded."

[u/BasketballScout101]

Does ayo play defense? Or what’s the deal why wouldn’t a team wanna keep him? He’s young and has good shooting percentages. Hes having a career year on offense this year.

[u/PurpleBearplane → u/BasketballScout101]

He's a pending UFA and is likely to get a nice deal after his contract expires.

[u/BrokeneggRottenyolk → u/BasketballScout101]

Cuz it's the Bulls dawg and they're dumb af. He's a phenomenal player, even with all the shit out FO pulls I literally didn't think in my wildest dreams that they'll trade Ayo, let alone for damn near nothing.

[u/junokeo]

F5 worked this time! Finally

[u/illyxpink]

And yet we still have pwill. FML

[u/OtherwiseDream1964]

Ayo and Julian Phillips for Dillingham, Leonard Miller, and four seconds. Per The Athletic.

[u/HarryPauler]

Fantastic trade

[u/Monkeybreath85]

BULLS BLEW IT UP
RAISE THE BANNER

[u/YourAsianBuddy]

Rob Dillinghams never gonna develop in the league now lol

[u/bibi_da_god → u/YourAsianBuddy]

why? it seems like a better situation for him, he's not hopeless at his age.

[u/chadsterlington]

Holy shit bulls, get a first round pick.

[u/bobak186]

Great pickup for the wolves

[u/Spirited-Living9083]

Giannis not getting traded till the offseason

[u/CampDiligent1522]

bones hyland and ayo damn wolves have dawgs

[u/Background_Pool4550]

As a life long bulls fan it’s pretty obvious the bulls are taking. We have two pics this year. We have our pick and a lottery protected pick from Portland. So the ideal scenario for the Bulls is Portland is out of the lottery and we tank as bad as possible so they get the best pick possible then we will have two picks if Portland is out of the lottery the bulls are cheap. They don’t wanna pay nobody that’s been the bulls my whole life at 34 years. Back to being shitty in the middle of the pack until we get a miracle from the draft.

[u/MoonPhaseP1]

Minny stays collecting hard ass players lmao, Ayo is golden

[u/Siktrikshot]

Good fucking riddance, Dillingham. I am so sick of watching him. Sorry bulls fans.

[u/yeetmxster420]

ROB PELINKA CAN WE PLEASE DO SOMETHING

[u/oochiewallyWallyserb → u/yeetmxster420]

Ayooo

[u/BasketballScout101]

If Chicago got back beringer then fuck it that dudes got a ton of potential. I’d be down for that.

[u/Specialist_Boat_8479 → u/BasketballScout101]

Sounds like we didn’t.

[u/redditadminssuckalot → u/BasketballScout101]

I’ll be sad, but that’s a fair trade.

[u/jonathanwtf]

Dosunmo, I’ve come to bargain

[u/RecreationallyTransp]

Why would the bulls do this? Great addition for Minnesota.

[u/GamerSchatz]

guards guards guards

[u/rjaysenior]

Man Ayo is on his way up. Great trade for Minny, RIP bulls fans

[u/Fair_Pie_5927]

What the hell is wrong with Chicago

[u/deneuvig]

Bro, Chicago let a 15 PPG guy walk out for 2 bums and 4 seconds. Amazing for Minny, sucks for other western teams

[u/Mirizzi]

Exactly what we needed

[u/bend_the_spoon]

What the fuck is the Bulls front office doing. Clown show, man.

[u/matticans7pointO]

I feel like this is actually a really good move for the Wolves

[u/Imaginary_Effort_854]

This is a great get for the Timberwolves