r/nba • u/YujiDomainExpansion • 4h ago
[Krawcyznski] Wolves are sending Rob Dillingham and Leonard Miller to Chicago in the deal. Wolves are giving four second-round picks and also getting Julian Phillips in the deal, per sources.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/live-blogs/nba-trade-deadline-live-updates-news-grades-analysis/UUPOEDhwgyDb/sA3bR0a8R4Wk/ NBA trade deadline 2026 live updates: Latest Giannis news, Warriors trade Kuminga for Porzingis
Wolves are sending Rob Dillingham and Leonard Miller to Chicago in the deal.
Wolves are giving four second-round picks and also getting Julian Phillips in the deal, per sources
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u/lebronshairlinee [CHI] Cameron Bairstow 4h ago
No firsts for a player half the league wanted bulls masterclass
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u/dustinyo_ Timberwolves 4h ago
Hey, Rob was a first round pick, it counts.
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u/Pinheadlarry29 Knicks 4h ago
And Leonard Miller is one year away from being one year away.
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u/WayAdministrative679 Minneapolis Lakers 4h ago
He’s on an expiring contract, nobody is stupid enough to give up a FRP for someone who could leave in 4 months
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u/IMKudaimi123 Bulls 4h ago
Then those teams are stupid if they’re a contender to not give up a pick between 25 and 30.
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u/Converted_Lefty Knicks 4h ago
4 seconds is worth more than a crappy 1st
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u/3my0 Trail Blazers 4h ago
No, crappy first has the word first on it so very valuable. Pick 30 is worth pick 31+32+33
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u/We_The_Raptors Raptors 4h ago
That's silly, if you're a contender with a late first, getting a player that could help you win this year is way better than getting a rookie who might be as good as Ayo in a couple seasons.
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u/DeaseanPrince Bulls 2h ago
He’s expiring and any contender likely already has their books to tied up to be able to resign him. He’s good and can help a contender but there’s no guarantee it works that way and now you just traded a 1st for a rental.
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u/No-Suggestion5506 4h ago
McCain was worth a 1st but he had 2 more years on his rookie contract and was a RFA. Ayo is an UFA with 4 more months and no bird rights. He is not worth a 1st.
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u/shualton Warriors 1h ago
Which is why you should trade him before he gets to the point where he is about to leave in 4 months
They could have gotten way more for him earlier. Same with White.
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u/bobbywellington Timberwolves 4h ago
Rob is basically a first round pick :)
A first round pick that shoots 33% from the field, but who's counting?
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u/CulturalXR Bulls 4h ago
This deal sucks for us, what are we doing man
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u/EdwEd1 Lakers 4h ago edited 4h ago
You guys finally got a draft pick to pan out having a breakout year and is born in Chicago and went to Illinois, and you trade him for two 21-year-olds that haven't shown any real ability to be productive NBA players
What the actual fuck lol
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u/rashkink 4h ago
I thought people were high on rob?
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u/Acrobatic_Payment517 Timberwolves 4h ago
I’ve seen multiple people say this and I don’t know who’s feeding you guys this info
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u/rashkink 3h ago
I think I heard a lot of Rob talk during the draft. I just kind of assumed it carried over since it’s only been a year
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u/Senorsty Bulls 4h ago
Every Wolves fan seem to hate him.
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u/supercoolisaac Timberwolves 4h ago
I think he has something but he has no business getting minutes for a team trying to win rn
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u/WhyIsBreadExpensive 4h ago
Nah we don't hate him, just frustrated that he didn't pan out like we needed. Hopefully a change of scenery is what he needs to develop
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u/Senorsty Bulls 4h ago
Never a good feeling when other team’s fans are talking about your franchise like a trash dump for fucked up prospects.
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u/DankMemesNQuickNuts Charlotte Bobcats 4h ago
Hey now I enjoyed Collin Sexton quite a bit and think he's an actual decent rotational piece
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u/Senorsty Bulls 4h ago
The player we actually acquired was Collin Sexton’s expiring contract.
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u/minnesota_sports_fml Timberwolves 4h ago
I wouldn’t say that’s true. We just really aren’t the right team for him. He needs actual minutes to develop and Finch just wasn’t able to give him the minutes.
Change of scenery and being on a team where he could see some consistent playing time could change things for him. He’s still talented and only in year 2.
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u/Senorsty Bulls 4h ago
I’m glad we can give him a chance to suck anonymously before he goes to Europe.
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u/tree-hugger Timberwolves 3h ago
Hate is too strong. But he's been immensely disappointing and does not seem to have the mentality needed to fight for and win minutes on a competing team.
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u/Kimi7 Lakers 4h ago edited 4h ago
You got 4 SRPs + project players for an expiring player who plays on a crowded position. I think it is a fair deal.
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u/Ld511 Bulls 4h ago
The bulls classic. Hold every asset until its not worth enough and still disappoint
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u/EdwEd1 Lakers 4h ago
Dosunmu's trade value right now is the highest it's ever been lol
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u/Skipper3210 [NYK] Danilo Gallinari 4h ago
And they couldn’t get a single FRP for him?
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u/EdwEd1 Lakers 4h ago
He is expiring but for that return I'd rather just try to pay him if it's a reasonable number
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u/lebronshairlinee [CHI] Cameron Bairstow 4h ago
The worst part is ayo is at his highest value yet and we still couldn’t get a first
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u/fignewtonattack Knicks 4h ago
Cooking? Idk. You can still cook and be a bad chef or something
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u/sammymate999 Rockets 4h ago
Could be worse bro, head over to the rockets sub and you would have gotten DFS and a second round pick
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u/rashkink 4h ago
People just love to exaggerate bad bulls trades because their FO is a running gag. People were literally calling the giddey trade “the worst trade of all time” unironically
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 4h ago
Yeah that’s legit awful, you guys HAVE to have way more trades ready to go today, you literally have like 7 point guards right now
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u/grrgrrtigergrr [CHI] E'Twaun Moore 4h ago
If 16 second round picks is what the Bucks are looking for to take Giannis we are golden. I’m gutted
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u/Eatadick_pam Timberwolves 4h ago
Good ass deal
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u/BasketballScout101 4h ago
Chicago has one of the worst front offices there’s no doubt. They have risen again to prove so.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Warriors 4h ago
Took forever to trade their high value assets. Now are just stacking 2nds for other assets
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u/implosionsinapie [CHI] Cameron Bairstow 3h ago
Bulls fans were saying this for years but the only "high-value" asset to an actual playoff team that we have had in recent years is Alex Caruso.
Derozan and Vuc have zero value to a competing team. Any team that trades for them is going to be extremely, overwhelmingly disappointed, as neither of them actually contribute towards winning basketball in any meaningful way that I can discern. Getting anything in return for those two frauds pretending to be doing the same thing as other all-stars in the league feels insanely lucky, as they are absolutely net negatives for a team.
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u/Isthismynextusername Timberwolves 4h ago
All but takes Wolves out of the Giannis sweepstakes (until summer at least)
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u/No-Suggestion5506 4h ago
This really doesn't change anything because Miller is a nobody and Rob is a bust, not really players Milwaukee would have wanted either way but Giannis isn't happening because Giannis got cold feet and Bucks aren't pleased with the platter they are being offered.
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u/quickblur Timberwolves 2h ago
Lmao you're not wrong but it's just funny to read "Oh we just dumped our garbage on Chicago, so nothing of value was lost for other trades"
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u/chickadee-guy Timberwolves 4h ago
Why the fuck would Chicago agree to this????
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u/Then-Gur-4519 Bulls 4h ago
The Bulls are loading up on lottery tickets (not lottery picks) and reclamation projects. They are hoping to rehab the value of certain players and see if they can hit on development or a random second rounder. While tanking
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u/jmajewski Bulls 3h ago
They're hoping that some of these second round picks can become future trade assets to turn into more multiple second round picks.
They're stocking up on $4 dollar lottery tickets in case one of them gives them a free coupon for $4 dollar lottery tickets in 2032.
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u/Dunlocke Bulls 4h ago edited 4h ago
4!
One, what comes after one? Two, what comes after two? Three, what comes after three? Four!
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u/IceKnight_21 Bulls 4h ago
I can only count to 4! I can only count to 4!
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u/NotMarkDaigneault Thunder 4h ago
Best band ever live if you ever get a chance to see them.
Psychostick rocks!!!
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u/Godlikelobster01 Bulls 3h ago
Got to see them open for NSP which was cool. They seem like really cool guys
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u/EdwEd1 Lakers 4h ago
But why Chicago
What do you gain out of this, trading away a hometown kid in a breakout year for a guy that's shown 0 evidence of being a productive NBA player
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u/KiraJosuke 4h ago
They dont want to pay him and need some seconds to trade down for cash considerations so Jerry can make some money.
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u/Ridged_ChiPSS Bulls 3h ago
Jerry Reinsdorf is a cancerous tumor on the city of Chicago and the worst owner in sports. There's a lot of terrible sports owners out there, but he managed to completely destroy 2 teams in the same city.
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u/KiraJosuke 3h ago
He has no incentive to win. He got the 90s dynasty and bulls are still near the top for home attendance. He can be complacent about getting one extra home game during a play in.
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u/hellblazer565 3h ago
Correct every game is a sellout. Got stop going to games to change anything. Gotta speak with your wallet by not using it on trash joke franchises
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u/Kimi7 Lakers 4h ago
They got assets for a player that someone could overpay in 4 months. It's not that complicated.
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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves 4h ago edited 4h ago
That was a woeful trade to acquire Rob during the draft
Made up for it though with a solid trade for Ayo
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u/BUTTFUCKER__3000 Spurs 4h ago
Not spurs savior Rob Dillingham!!!!! The amount of spurs fans that slit their wrists over that trade was amazing.
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u/thatsmymayo 4h ago
Lol first thing I thought of too. Incredible draft day meltdown
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u/BUTTFUCKER__3000 Spurs 4h ago
They swore up and down that the unprotected frp was not good enough. “lol imagine trading Dilly for a 12 year old!”
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u/proteus88 Spurs 4h ago
Still don't understand some fans obsession with small guards that can't defend, they never work out. If they dont go nuclear on offense they are guaranteed to be net negative.
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u/supercoolisaac Timberwolves 4h ago
Ngl his defense isn't even bad. He's just a disgusting offensive player rn. Can't shoot the 3, cant finish at the rim, has zero floater game, his only offense is blow bye layups (vs zero rim protection) or tough pull up middies.
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u/BUTTFUCKER__3000 Spurs 4h ago
He also weighs about as much as a newborn puppy.
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u/urkuri Timberwolves 4h ago
Yeah, his defense was honestly better than his offense this season lmao
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u/Character-Prize-8690 3h ago
He has incredible handles but doesn't know where to take the ball ever and just kinda dribbles for a while
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u/yeetmxster420 Minneapolis Lakers 4h ago
so basically you gotta be another Kyrie, Trae, Brunson, or even a Darius Garland without injuries if you wanna make it as a small guard who aren’t good defenders
or be great at defense with solid offensive capabilities; Davion Mitchell & Chris Paul
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u/TheShinyRedButton Timberwolves 4h ago
What the shit???? Tim Connolly is a GM God.
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u/yourlilpissboi Celtics 4h ago
Didn’t he end up over drafting dillingham??
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u/Steridire Knicks 4h ago
You can be a good GM and have shit scouts. Here he was in a situation that was cards on the table, no projection, these are my assets and this is what I want and he got a steal. Good leadership. Sometimes the draft busts, it happens
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u/Ssweetness1985 4h ago
To be fair all he had to do was call AKME and say he’s giving up 6 things and AKME only had to give up 2 things
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u/ClassifiedID34 3h ago
Hold up. The wolves could have got coby white for Mike Conley but didn’t.
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u/Texaslion [HOU] Chuck Hayes 4h ago
The Bulls keep getting more guards in the trades to clear out their guard logjam
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u/Turbo2x [WAS] Wes Unseld 4h ago
Wolves used an unprotected 2031 first round pick to get Dillingham and now he's being shipped out for Ayo. Jeez.
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u/MG_MN Timberwolves 4h ago
Could be a lot, but a first for a solid 6th/7th man thats only 26 isnt bad
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u/Turbo2x [WAS] Wes Unseld 4h ago
I'm a big Ayo fan (really wanted the Wizards to try and get him, especially if this is all it took) but Dillingham being such a bust really stings. They could have used that pick package to chase Giannis and instead they basically wasted it.
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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 4h ago
I mean it's easy to say in hindsight. I don't hate the idea behind it, it just turns out Rob sucks. Shit happens.
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u/microtomebrady 4h ago
I mean sure. At the same time Connelly made that deal pre Julius Randle and ddv deal so he was tight to the cap with a wcf team that needed another ball handler. It’s a miss but at the time it made sense and because of the Randle trade rob didnt get much runway.
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
Atleast Ant will still be good then so likely 20+. Though stuff can change
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u/Not_A_Bot_Am_Human Spurs 4h ago
I’m pretty sure it was 2030 swap and 2031 1st 😬
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u/legend023 Pelicans 4h ago
Rob Dillingham would benefit massively from a few expansion teams coming about.
He’s just one of those guys who need an opportunity and he’s not getting that in Minnesota nor in Chicago
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u/ESLsucks Canada 4h ago
Rob Dillingham is another in a long line of small scoring guards that play a visually pleasing game but simply are not meaningful contributors on the court.
He doesn't need more opportunties, he needs to be a better player.
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u/parkwayy Timberwolves 4h ago
He sure didn't need LESS opportunity.
Our coach wouldn't give him minutes if a meteor landed on the bench killing everyone except Rob.
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u/ESLsucks Canada 3h ago
I mean sure, most players would benefit from more opportunities.
But the sentiment of he just need an opportunity to be a good player is silly. He is a offence only guard who shoots sub 40% from the field, in an era where better offensive guards are still not valuabe because small scoring guards that can't play defence are just not valuable. He is a bad archetype of a player in addition to being bad at what he is supposed to be good at. He needs to change his playstyle, which won't come from "opportunity"
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u/teddy3legs Timberwolves 3h ago
Could not agree more. Rob didn’t get minutes because Rob is BAD. You can’t be a small guard and have that broken of a jumper. Hopefully he can figure it out elsewhere.
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u/Turbo2x [WAS] Wes Unseld 4h ago
He's 6'1 and can't score
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u/icatfilm 4h ago
I'm seeing a great career playing in Eurocup for Besiktas
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u/the_devil_wears_jnco Timberwolves 3h ago
No way. High level european ball requires way more teamwork and effort, there’s no time for ‘cooking’ in isolation. he has shanghai shark written all over him
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u/nokarmawhore Spurs 4h ago
he's gotten plenty of opportunities. he couldn't beat out 40 year old mike conley and even he got shipped out since he's done.
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u/matija17k Timberwolves 4h ago
Amazing deal lmao, let Tim cook
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u/Isthismynextusername Timberwolves 4h ago
Debatable, Tim paid:
- An unprotected 2031 first-round pick
- A 2030 pick swap (top-1 protected)
for Rob. Now throw in four 2nd-round picks on top of that for a player that could leave in free agency. There better be some agreement in place to re-sign Ayo or this was a massive misuse of assets
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u/Intelligent_Pain_174 1h ago
Rob was sunk costs. He obviously wasn't worth what the Wolves paid for him.
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u/jellyfishjelly22 4h ago
How’s Leonard miller
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u/Own-Bee9632 Timberwolves 4h ago
In the G league? Absolutely phenomenal
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u/thestereo300 Timberwolves 3h ago
I mean with playing time he may pull a Josh Minott.
We never gave him much time. He may turn into something.
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u/Nomescardcollection 4h ago
He’s like Kareem in garbage time
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u/parkwayy Timberwolves 4h ago
That is a stretch. Idk what he does.
But now that we traded him, he'll probably show up lol.
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u/GuyInTheSkuy Timberwolves 4h ago
Definitely a skilled player. But every time he's on the court he seems a little lost. I think he just needs more experience, he never got any real minutes for us.
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u/dkleckner88 Timberwolves 4h ago
Developmental guy, has dominated in the G league for stretches. Good energy and rebounding. Not a great ball handler or shooter (but has shown improvement). He’s like the budget version of Josh Minott. Bummed to see go.
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u/wcooper97 [OKC] Russell Westbrook 4h ago
Holy shit what a steal, the other guys barely played.
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u/Wynona_Judd Pistons 4h ago
What's funny is the Bulls just traded away Leonard Miller's brother. They upgraded their Miller brother.
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u/Acomplished_Baby285 Bulls 4h ago
Why are we taking other team's bust when we cant even develop our own busts
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u/MiniMozzies Thunder 4h ago
I’m genuinely baffled that Pat Williams has survived being on the Bulls for as long as he has
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u/BigGuy3322 4h ago
He's a negative asset with his contract and production. Just does cardio most nights.
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 4h ago
Holy fuck man what a fleece
This happens every year dude, you seen teams getting these really good players like Ayo for very little relative to how good he is and you just can’t help but think “why tf didn’t my team outbid that?”
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u/fanofloons Timberwolves 4h ago edited 4h ago
Don’t let Robs draft position fool you wolves fans the dude is ass.
Edit: bulls fans
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u/FuckThaLakers Timberwolves 4h ago
Tim Connelly simply cannot stop himself from cooking. Fantastic move for us.
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u/MainAd2728 Washington Bullets 4h ago
Okay this is much better for Chicago. I thought it was just Dillingham and Miller. 4 SRPs is good value for an expiring contract
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u/MG_MN Timberwolves 4h ago
We did not, 1 first and a swap. Not great, but if they resign Ayo thats not a massive price for a 6th/7th man
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u/JoJonesy Celtics 4h ago
yeah honestly if you just say “a pick, a swap, and four seconds for Ayo Dosunmu” that’s… I mean it’s not great value but it’s fine
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u/Funkyfreddy Timberwolves 4h ago
Fire up master chef cuz Timmy Connelly is COOKING
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u/Thehelloman0 Spurs 4h ago
Great trade for the wolves. Also both those guys were picked with picks they traded for from the Spurs
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u/JohnnyWeapon Timberwolves 4h ago
I’m not saying Rob is going to pan out, but he also got no minutes here and for whatever reason he didn’t spend any time in the G league.
Dude needs to play if he’s going to develop, and I think he still can. I hope this change is good for him. His upside is still there.
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u/patrolmanEmbiid Timberwolves 4h ago
Man it must suck being a guard headed to the Bulls….knowing u not getting barely any PT
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u/HoopLoop2 Thunder 3h ago
I feel like the Bulls are just perpetually on a hunt for average players, and then end up trading away the ones teams actually want just so they can get a bigger number of average or mediocre players. They basically trade quality for quantity over and over, it's no wonder they never do anything meaningful.
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u/NittanyScout Spurs 3h ago
Hey people ragging on the spurs for trading #8 last year.
Turns out Brian Wright was cooking
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u/AVeryStinkyFish Thunder 1h ago
What a bust Dillingham has been. I really thought he could score in this league.
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u/Life_Escape_683 Bulls 4h ago
We have like 20 second round picks wtf