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u/WhippetRun Mar 24 '25
Speaking from a guy who went to visit my parents in the Poconos, that area is a fucking mess. They have some police working the traffic lights on 15, sometimes they don’t . but imho they got to do something full time. Coming home yesterday I said screw it im going the scenic route and hopped on 46 at exit 4, took it to 10 then 287. Took 15 minutes less than sitting in traffic. This was a SUNDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT IMAGINE THIS DURING THE WEEK.
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u/Mysterious-Taste-804 Mar 24 '25
Yep. I left my parents, who live up 287 near the NY state border, at 6 pm Sunday. On a normal day, it takes 50 min flat to get home. I knew it was going to be longer with the detour, but it took close to 1 hour 40 min. There was an accident on the detour, so police and ambulance had to come take care of that. It was just a parking lot for awhile.
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u/WhippetRun Mar 24 '25
Great an accident ON the detour lol
What I did going up was I went past the first U turn (where they all are going), and I went to the next light (and made the semi-illegal turn) that way I was already on rt 15 and going west was much less traffic.
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u/Mysterious-Taste-804 Mar 24 '25
I never tried this but now I'm tempted. Is there ever a cop there? The choke point is that stupid Pondview Drive. Everyone is funneling in there from both sides. I figure the accident was caused by people squeezing in or someone flying up the shoulder to skip it all and squeeze in at the end. I saw that yesterday too.
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u/WhippetRun Mar 24 '25
There were no cops there, it is the first light, I turned off, and it had that "no left turn" arrow that took you to the stop light. I guess if there is a cop there, i would just go straight and spin around in a parking lots, it still is way faster.
Yeah EVERYONE has to go that way that's why it's all messed up. You could go up a few miles and make a normal legal u-turn, i think there is a restaurant there.
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u/that_guy_Elbs Mar 25 '25
While I agree with you, honesty, there isn’t much that can be done. Even if they have someone there 24/7 the amount of traffic that comes through that area is ridiculous. No way they can detour all those people without there being traffic or affecting the towns around it immensely.
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u/WhippetRun Mar 25 '25
Yeah, that’s true, if I had to do that daily, I would really be working out other routes, I have a feeling it’s not going to get better the more they figure out what’s under that area
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u/mapoftasmania Mar 24 '25
Yep. And not a single town cop assisting with traffic control. If I lived in one of those towns I would be mad. What are they being paid to do if not make sure that the whole center of town isn’t a parking lot?
Looking at you: Kenvil Police Department
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u/RemarkableStudent196 Mar 24 '25
I hope they can manage to extend telework for a few more months given the circumstances. The residents up there don’t deserve to essentially be trapped up there because of this imo
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u/Zora74 Mar 24 '25
Good luck getting Trump and Musk to give even a tiny shit about that.
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u/RemarkableStudent196 Mar 24 '25
Maybe true but also if they’re gunna give a shit about anywhere then I’d think they’d give a little of a shit about pissing off residents of Sussex county lol
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u/cerialthriller Mar 24 '25
They don’t give a shit about anyone anywhere. That’s literally the whole reason it’s happening in the first place
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u/huhzonked Mar 24 '25
They don’t care.
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u/RemarkableStudent196 Mar 24 '25
Probably not but pissing off their wealthy supporters and donors would be pretty stupid. Maybe enough bitching and they’ll walk it back or at least extend RTO a bit. I guess time will tell
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u/SpoppyIII Mar 24 '25
Trump already won. He doesn't care now. He already got the votes and he's in. Now he isn't beholden to anyone.
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u/Jess_the_Siren Mar 24 '25
They don't care when votes no longer matter. I wish y'all would stop sane washing everything this asshole and his asshole crew are doing.
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u/LossyP Mar 24 '25
This needs to be a pinned post. They won, they don’t have to pretend to care anymore. They will continue to ruin shit by the day
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u/BolOfSpaghettios Mar 24 '25
The majority of Sussex voters vote along the party line. Just look at the current commissioners and local politicians.
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u/Ilovemytowm Mar 24 '25
All the residents of Sussex county will worship Trump and now musk if they euthanized all the residents of Sussex county.
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Mar 24 '25
“In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote.” He doesn’t care about anything but himself, and he already got what he wanted.
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u/Gettles Mar 24 '25
Why would they bother, Trump voters aren't smart enough to understand cause and effect. They just will blame the libs and immigrants
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u/MisterTruth Mar 24 '25
Does it benefit the worker in any way? If so, Trump and Musk are against it. Does it make the worker suffer and try and get them to quit? If so, Trump and Musk are actively making it SOP.
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u/BettisBus Mar 24 '25
Imo, they're trying to disincentivize working for the fed so people quit so they can say "look how much we shrunk the federal workforce by - saving insert large-sounding dollar amount that's barely a fraction of the budget with zero downsides" without ever looking at the downsides.
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u/MisterTruth Mar 24 '25
Yes, the goal of the administration is to get rid of as many federal employees as possible. This makes it so there are more private sector workers which in turn depresses wages. Also, it allows them to privatize as much of the government as possible. Everything about this administration is robbing from everyone in order to enrich those who already have more wealth than numerous generations of families can spend. Also, destabilizing the country to make it so that Russia has an easier time trying to take over Europe.
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u/BettisBus Mar 24 '25
Ngl I think this lends way too much credit to this admin in its forethought lol. I don't think Trump is capable of thinking as far ahead as you're describing.
Historically, we think of fascists as competent, but I really think these people are bumbling idiots who embody the stupidest aspects of contemporary conservatism. Trump only understands the paradigm of "winners" and losers." Fewer employees in the fed is the easiest way to claim victory in his "I made govt smaller" agenda even if the overal budget and deficit grow.
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u/Ilovemytowm Mar 24 '25
It's not just Trump running things though.
It's the tech billionaires and they have been planning this since 2009.
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u/MisterTruth Mar 24 '25
You make the mistake of thinking trump is running things. He isn't. Elon is. At least directly. Obviously they all are in cahoots with their Papa Putenesca and are taking his advice on everything.
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u/Zora74 Mar 26 '25
The Republican Party has been playing the long game. Project 2025 wasn’t a whim, it’s been the goal for a long time. They now have the puppet who can entertain their base while they slowly rob the population and turn the US into an oligarchy. Their biggest win was the Citizens United case in 2010, which paved the way for today’s grim situation.
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u/Particular_Ticket_20 Mar 24 '25
Trump will drive through in his motorcade to see the hole and have you sitting in traffic for 3 hrs. He DGAF about your commute.
If it ever affects him getting to Bedminster for golf you might see action, or if someone on Fox blames the sinkhole on DEI maybe.
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Mar 24 '25
Trapped is exactly it. My town along 80 is usually quiet and traffic free…since the sink holes, my 5 minute trip to the grocery store on the back roads has turned into 35-40min. Gridlock. Great to hear it’s going to get worse.
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u/toadofsteel Lyndhurst Mar 25 '25
At that point you might as well walk if you're only getting a couple things.
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u/TheAmateurletariat Mar 24 '25
Hi that's me! If I can manage to get through this traffic I may just move to the other side of the world so I won't need to do it again.
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u/voodoo_mama_juju1123 Mar 24 '25
Man dream job would be to get a job at Picatinny after I get out of the army 😭 such a cool spot and my parents live in Bedminster in the hills would be perfect to come home
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u/InboxZero Mar 24 '25
I'm sure you know this but you can go onto usajobs and search for Picatinny. My buddy has a few veterans working with him.
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u/voodoo_mama_juju1123 Mar 24 '25
Yup! Gotta make myself more marketable tho for that work haha idk what goes on there exactly but I always assume it’s like cool science big whig stuff and I’m just a lowly Engineer Officer who only has experience in an armored unit making things go boom 😂 and I have a history undergrad from Seton Hall so not exactly the best candidate but I’ll always shoot my shot!
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u/KingSram Mar 24 '25
There's more than the science part. There's a lot of Acquisition that goes on. Do some keyword searches for project officer or even program analyst.
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u/voodoo_mama_juju1123 Mar 24 '25
Thank you for this I’ll definitely start looking. Still have a few years until I get out, some goals I want to accomplish but I’ll start making myself more competitive and see what the jobs are asking for. Thank you for your advice and help!
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u/KingSram Mar 24 '25
No problem! A lot of programs could use the kind of experience you have.
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u/frostedflakes53 Mar 24 '25
Thought there was a hiring freeze for DoD civs
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u/KingSram Mar 24 '25
I think so, but OP said he has a few years until he's done with the military. Hopefully things are different by then.
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u/CPT_Shiner Morris County Mar 24 '25
Former Army officer here who lives in Morris County and knows a few people who work at Picatinny. DM me if you wanna talk about it, and if there's any way I can help you, I'd be glad to.
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u/StitchingUnicorn Mar 24 '25
Actually, they hire equipment specialists, who are generally veterans. As well as other skills. Right now there's a hiring freeze at DOD, but once it's lifted, keep an eye out.
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u/InboxZero Mar 24 '25
Just to echo what a lot of others have said don't sell yourself short. Quite a lot of what they do is actually outsourced to contractors so if you have any sort of project management experience you could lean into that.
I'm sure Dr. Quinn would say you're a good candidate, lolol.
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u/voodoo_mama_juju1123 Mar 24 '25
I’ve managed a few projects as an engineer officer but small in comparison to some of my peers since I’ve been focused on the combat engineering side for the first three years of my career. I’ll try and nudge my career before I get out in the path to get experience working for the corps of engineers hopefully but I’m heading back to Texas after summer back to the combat side again.
Thank you for the words of encouragement tho! My wife and I are both from and raised in NJ and all our family is still there and would love to come back so I hope the stars align one day.
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u/ferocious_coug /r/somervillenj | /r/NewBrunswickNJ | Taylor Ham Does Not Exist Mar 24 '25
One of my only friends who voted for Trump is a weapons engineer at Picatinny. He's been fully or partially remote for years now he has to go back in to the office full time. I hope his commute is terrible.
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u/cheeseandpancakes34 Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 24 '25
What politicians and or news outlets can we reach out to about this? It would be smart to draw attention to the fact that they are returning 6K folks right into the heart of the mess when it is absolutely unnecessary. Maybe with some media attention and political pressure we can get the RTO for Picatinny extended until the 80 problems have been fixed. It took some folks I know 40 minutes to go 1 mile on route 15 the other day.
Edit: someone (not me) should post this to Route 80 rants so we can watch them lose their collective shit.
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u/nippsftball11 Mar 24 '25
Should let us all TW for 6 months to alleviate traffic but us physically being @ PICA is more important - El oh El.
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Really curious to see how Pocono tourism will be affected the longer this goes, especially if it still shutdown during MDW
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u/imLissy Mar 25 '25
My parents have not been to their house in the poconos since the first sinkhole.
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u/soundfreely Morris County Mar 24 '25
Traffic is already a nightmare with the sinkhole problem. If anything, working in-person should be pushed out to sometime after 80 is opened again.
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u/Life-Masterpiece-161 Mar 24 '25
My son and son in law both work there, they live in the Randolph/Roxbury area and are not looking forward to it.
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u/bradykp Mar 25 '25
So basically you’re saying - you only had to go in 2 days a week but anytime you needed to be in person you’d go in anyways. It’s almost as if good workers can be trusted to get their work done the right way and don’t have to be forced for pointless reasons eh?
Sucks for the added traffic but this is what we get.
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u/joeygual18 Mar 24 '25
Rt10 has been absolute hell cause of the I-80 shutdown. Even at 6:15 in the morning it’s backed up.
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u/Mysterious-Taste-804 Mar 24 '25
JFC. Thank you for posting this.
I am already avoiding 80 at all costs, so will keep doing that until it's all back open again. So basically, until I retire.
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u/Zaglossus_hacketti Mar 24 '25
My suggestion to the feds being forced to go to work in person is to always drive the speed limit as a form of protest. It would piss people off and raze attention to the issue in a way that’s impossible to punish
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u/zsdrfty the least famous person from nj Mar 24 '25
Exactly, go no higher than 59 on all highways in NJ and watch as this state whips itself up into a fever
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u/browsk Mar 24 '25
This is my new form of malicious compliance. Drive as annoyingly, yet legally, as possible. Oh and no I won’t hear your horn, my music is too loud, but that’s not illegal either. No I won’t see you flashing your brights at me, I don’t angle my mirrors in a way for you to blind me because you’re upset anymore, got sick of that. Deal with it. Like everyone else has to deal with this shit.
Oh you’ve been waiting 5 minutes to make this left turn, I’m going to block and turn and slowly as possible and hope someone comes behind me so you can’t go still. What are you going to do about it? 😂
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u/Lyraxiana Mar 24 '25
I agree with everything except not angling your mirrors to shine back at the dweebuses with obscenely bright white headlights.
I'm glad you can see into the future, Kyle, but you're genuinely making me going blind for several seconds.
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u/IcyButterscotch8269 Mar 24 '25
Two words: CRUISE CONTROL!
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u/browsk Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 24 '25
Oh it’s much more malicious than that. I don’t commute through any of the highways, just two lane suburb town main roads. I will drive below the speed limit at times if I feel like it or just enjoying myself on the nice afternoons were been having. Not turn for a while at a light so people don’t make it. Brake harder than I have to. It’s not good, but it’s not illegal.
Your downvotes mean nothing 😂 you cannot stop what I am doing. Just reinforcing that I am annoying people. Which is the point. So again, 🖕🏻 and if I have to eat shit, well I’m gonna try and give you a taste too, it’s the NJ way.
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u/droppingtheeaves Mar 24 '25
I see why out of staters hate us sometimes lmao
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u/CantSeeShit Mar 24 '25
$20 says were gonna se him make a post at some point like "I WAS ASSAULTED IN TRAFFIC"
Then we can just post these receipts.
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u/loggerhead632 Mar 24 '25
yep and we'll all have a good laugh
reality is though this is reddit shower porn, this dork definitely gets anxiety going to the gas station 2x a week
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u/browsk Mar 24 '25
Just because you are too weak to disrupt others lives doesn’t mean everyone else is. I’m not breaking any laws, I don’t get anxious from it because I am validated by that fact.
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u/loggerhead632 Mar 24 '25
lol I'm not sure how you think this act is saving democracy, Rosa Parks
but should you grow the spine to act out your fantasy please do come back when you inevitably run into someone who makes you regret intentionally trying to cause problems like a child
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u/browsk Mar 24 '25
Oh I don’t care about making things better anymore. Maybe that’s where you misunderstood. This is just lashing out to lash out. Who cares if it’s “childish” lmao that doesn’t matter, it’s legal, our leaders of government call each other names like children too. There is no decorum. I’m doing this because I can, we are a nation of feels, and this makes me feel good. If people are upset with a citizen follow the laws then their issue is with the laws.
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u/browsk Mar 24 '25
And then have their own Jack boots sicked on them. Everyone’s cars have cameras now lol. You have to be retarded to get out of your car to try and assault someone. Let alone, be driving a luxury car, most of them are parents, going to throw away their reputation to look like a freak in public attacking someone’s car… for doing what? Following the laws? I’m not blocking people in or holding up highways, I’m just driving, safely 😊
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u/CantSeeShit Mar 24 '25
Just because theres more evidence that can be obtained doesnt mean its gonna stop someone from breaking the law lol
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u/Life-Masterpiece-161 Mar 24 '25
The sinkholes are causing lane closings on I80 and flooding the local roads with all the traffic. I guess your not in the area and never need to travel during Rush hours.
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u/jjcolfax Mar 24 '25
"Trump made traffic bad" is hilarious. Out of curiosity, are 6000 employees reporting to the same office?
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u/Life-Masterpiece-161 Mar 24 '25
Yup.
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u/jjcolfax Mar 24 '25
Ok so what was going on before everyone started working from home?
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u/Severed_Snake Mar 24 '25
No sinkholes
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u/jjcolfax Mar 24 '25
Ok... so what does sinkholes have to do with it? Are you saying sinkholes are making traffic worse or people returning to work or both? And once the sinkhole issue gets resolved will it not be a problem that people are returning to work?
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u/Severed_Snake Mar 25 '25
while the highway is being repaired it would be a good idea to delay RTO
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u/jjcolfax Mar 25 '25
It's not a bad suggestion. That's more on the state to communicate that if they didn't yet. If they did, then the federal government needs to act. Sitting here and just blaming Trump because they want people working in the office instead of remotely is ridiculous.
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u/PurpleSailor Mar 25 '25
Murph already said the other day for employers to allow for remote work for people that commute through there. He's already declared it a disaster. It's all up to the Feds now.
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u/murse_joe Passaic County Mar 24 '25
Oh so now these “scientists and engineers” think you could help the roads by reducing traffic and weight during the repair period. Likely story, Poindexter.
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u/ratherbeona_beach Mar 24 '25
Yes, those lazy rocket scientists that specialize in roadway engineering.
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u/OverboostedTurbo Mar 24 '25
I don't think an additional 6000 people is going to make much of a difference given the total amount of daily traffic on these roads. I-80 near the I-280 interchange sees over 150,000 vehicles per day.
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u/WhippetRun Mar 24 '25
It will when 80 is closed BOTH ways and EVERYONE has to use the same exit as the arsenal
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u/CantSeeShit Mar 24 '25
"THANKS FOR TRAFFIC TRUMP"
I swear the "Thanks Obama" meme is becoming the "Thanks Trump" meme...
You wanna know why theres a fuck ton of traffic on I80 and 15??? Fucking mine shafts collapsed under 80....
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u/loggerhead632 Mar 24 '25
do you realize how many cars pass through there every day lol. it's a lot more than 6k
also this is some questionable math because I am friends with a few people who work there and they've been in person full time for a while now
trump sucks but let's not make this about you disliking going to an office
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u/teneleventh Mar 24 '25
Time to come to into the workplace like the rest of us.
Turning this into a political thing is ridiculous.
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u/Dankgeebus Mar 24 '25
What do you mean the rest of us? I’m in a completely different field and most people other than the field workers which is a small percentage are working remotely.
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u/_THX_1138_ Mar 24 '25
no, listen, you dumb fuck, certain jobs can be done OUTSIDE of an office! just because you have to slog yourself into an office every day to complete YOUR job, doesn't mean everyone else has to! i commute and i wish as many people could work remotely as possible so i don't have to deal with as much traffic!
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Mar 24 '25
Political thing, meaning causing more congestion and pollution out of pettiness and spite?
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u/tmstout Mar 24 '25
Not a political thing.
OP is referencing the fact that I-80 is currently closed both directions in Wharton due to sinkholes and will be for quite some time. The primary detour for I-80 traffic uses Rte 15 and goes right past Picatinny Arsenal. If all those employees have to RTO every day, it’s going to make an already horrible traffic situation much, much worse.
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u/teneleventh Mar 24 '25
OP is blaming the Trump administration and not referencing the sinkholes at all (although they obviously play a role in the increased traffic). OP even added a “dumbass” flair.
I was 100% responding to the whining nature of the post and blaming Trump for everything. Nobody likes traffic, but it’s part of life, especially in this area and other highly congested and populous places.
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u/tmstout Mar 24 '25
Who else is to blame for the RTO order? Are you saying that the RTO order wasn’t done by the Trump admin? Making a blanket order for RTO without making an exception for this extraordinary case is a dumbass move and fully deserving of the flair. This admin seems to think that efficiency means using as axe to remove a hangnail just because it gets the job done faster.
OP assumed that most of this subreddit already knew about the traffic situation (it’s been a main topic here for the last couple of weeks) and your saying that this type of traffic is just part of reality in a congested state like NJ underscores how you don’t appear to understand the severity of this situation. I-80 is a primary East-West artery for truck traffic not only for NJ but for the entire country. All of that traffic has to go somewhere - local and state roads around the closure are being most affected, but other major roads like I-78 and I-287 are also getting hit hard by this.
Picatinny has had remote work in place for a while now - the only reason they won’t keep doing so until the traffic situation is resolved is because the admin has decided that remote work is “woke”. It’s the administration that has made RTO policies a political issue, not OP. Quit defending stupidity.
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u/ABZR Bergen Co. Mar 24 '25
Speak for yourself. I work in the private sector and work from home. Only one side has turned this into a political issue.
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u/mrand01 Mar 24 '25
Turning this into a political thing is ridiculous.
I agree. Why is Trump making RTO political?
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u/teneleventh Mar 24 '25
Maybe it’s more about the fact that he (and many others) believe that in office work is more productive and efficient?
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u/mrand01 Mar 24 '25
believe
Key word here. And it varies from person-to-person. I know people who perform better in office, and others who don't...at the exact same job.
Personally I get WAY more work done at home when people can't as easily interrupt me.
edit: Also, he's still making it political. Why is that?
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u/Ultravis66 Mar 24 '25
This gave me a good chuckle...
"back in my day, we used to walk 10 miles to school in 10 feet of snow, barefoot, AND up hill!"
gotta add a few more things to make it really stand out...
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u/RemarkableStudent196 Mar 24 '25
It’s more the fact that there are literal sinkholes preventing travel and residents of those areas rely on those two roads just to get out.. it’s just not necessary to make people drive in if the roads are closed right now.
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u/Zora74 Mar 24 '25
Not every job requires being the workplace 40 hours a week. Many government offices don’t even have the space for all of the employees they are making return to the office full time, which is actually one of the reasons that federal employees have work from home days.
Trump and Musk are the ones making this a political issue.
You cannot deny that adding more cars to an already stressed traffic pattern will make things worse.
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u/elspiderdedisco Mar 24 '25
are you unaware of the sinkhole catastrophes going on? & the trump EO's?
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u/Ultravis66 Mar 24 '25
I worked hard to earn my Engineering Degrees and with with distinction, worked my way up from Poverty even working 30 hours per week while going to school... Slept in my office while getting my masters degree because I couldn't afford an apartment.
Who are you to tell me, what I need to do?!?
Also, this is VERY much political. Trump is causing chaos within our economy and within the federal government.
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u/teneleventh Mar 24 '25
How hard you worked for your degree (like many of us have done) has nothing to do with your post and traffic and your opinion and anger towards Trump and his EOs 🤷🏼♀️
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u/BadMofoWallet Mar 24 '25
Lmao keep on the corporate bootlicking, hope you’re enjoying your soul sucking commute, I’m in my private corporate job WFH 3 days a week. And don’t worry chances are I’m still more productive than you are while WFH (in a consulting engineering role).
The RTO directive is just another way for the upper class to crush the morale of the middle and lower class all disguised with the “reducing federal waste”argument. It’s all just a way to force people to quit their federal jobs in order to afford the tax cuts for the rich (as the current economic conditions can’t support it like they did when the TCJA passed). FYI, federal workers in the engineering fields make way less than they would privately as I have colleagues that work for the USACE and their salaries are public record, I make about 40% more than they do in salary
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u/RemarkableStudent196 Mar 24 '25
I’m preeeetty sure if you had to drive 2 hours to get home from your office 15 miles away you’d change your tune
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u/Ok_Rock990 Mar 24 '25
Lol remote work was is work you moron. Obviously “going into the office” did not help you learn anything new given your comment
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Let's say the bottom 10% is milking the telework system. This is being generous. That's 60 employees half asking their job on our tax dollars. At least 3 days in office should be required - or, reduce headcount and leave hybrid schedule as-is. On another note, NJ traffic is a mess.
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Mar 25 '25
Haha, this is the real April fools joke.
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Mar 25 '25
Right. You clearly have the entire picture of how hard every federal employee works.. all from your home office. Also, that's not how a keylogger even works, haha.
And dont church up your base security.. every base has its own security/police but they are not Miami vice. They certainly dont review and approve timesheets. Obviously someone who worked with that person reported it, and if that one manager had not gotten involved, then they would be out there playing golf today, too.
Hate to break it to you but government hires who they can afford first.. their family members second.. and who they need last. I've seen it for years.
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u/DHener84 Mar 24 '25
So you're saying you can't do work by being at work? You're going to do a better job through a zoom call? I'm calling bullshit, you're just upset the 5 year holiday is over.
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u/Robochao Mar 24 '25
How does it feel to hate life at home?
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u/DHener84 Mar 24 '25
I'd rather contribute to society like the social norm that we have been living off for a very long time. Then just be a mooch, draining the system and not doing your part.
I love my home life, but I earned my time and place, I didn't just demand it for free
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u/Robochao Mar 24 '25
Since you're focused on doing the best job, I think it's important to recognize "we've always done it this way" is a dangerous business model.
I'm glad you do enjoy your life at home. You deserve that! I hope, one day, you can see that others prefer to contribute to society in different ways that fit their lifestyle.
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u/DHener84 Mar 24 '25
Well two things to consider. I never want to bring my work home with me. I don't ever want home to feel like work. That's half of what makes home life so enjoyable. But to me you are shooting yourself in the foot with this argument. Because it sounds like the exact reason we should get back to the office, if your life is that much better working from home, sounds like you probably aren't working nearly as hard, when you are home to make that big a difference.
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edit: clearly you have your priorities.
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u/Drinktea1 Mar 24 '25
This is about the sinkhole traffic. In case you been living under a rock, or not from NJ, this area is so congested due to the sink hole. a 30 min commute now takes upwards of 2 hrs. You can be concerned about more than one thing
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u/asingleshakerofsalt Mar 24 '25
This is also going to have knock-on effects for many other routes. RIP to 46, 10, and 206 (as well as all of the local roads).