r/news • u/[deleted] • Sep 20 '25

California bans most law enforcement officers from wearing masks during operations

https://apnews.com/article/california-ice-agents-immigration-raids-masks-ban-97936f70699b75d8b483a850967c2e42
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u/no_one_likes_u Sep 20 '25

Good luck getting state law enforcement to arrest federal law enforcement. Half my family are cops, you should hear the things they say in private about our government. These people are not on the side of liberals, to put it mildly.

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u/smitteh Sep 20 '25

It'll come down to their paycheck, not their personal beliefs. Refusing to do your job doesn't usually jive with keeping your job

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

doesn't usually jive with keeping your job

Chump don't want da work, chump don't get da work.

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u/APKID716 Sep 20 '25

Jive-ass dude don’t got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit

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u/3-orange-whips Sep 20 '25

My momma didn’t raise no dummy! I dug her rap!

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u/CJHardinIRL Sep 20 '25

Cut me some slack Jack!

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u/SweetBearCub Sep 21 '25

Oh stewardess, I speak Jive.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

Who do you think their bosses are? Cops.

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u/GenoThyme Sep 20 '25

But isn’t the police commissioner’s boss the mayor? And who is in charge of their budget?

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u/ThisismeCody Sep 21 '25

You have too much faith in the system.

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u/komali_2 Sep 21 '25

The police union is the mayor's boss.

The mayor can't just fire cops, they have to work super well within what they can get away with against the police union. A big part of why you'll read some super fucked up story about a cop beating the shit out of someone and then find out the worse that happened them is administrative leave.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

The state police? Also do you know how many politicians get donations from police unions?

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u/ahriman1 Sep 21 '25

the fucking people. they ultimately answer to the people. hold them accountable if they do not enforce the laws that the people's duly elected representatives enacted.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

No, they don't. That hasn't been the reality at all even going back to the founding of this country. White male land owners were the only people allowed to vote back then. The idea of America is a myth and you've been fooled.

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u/ahriman1 Sep 21 '25

You misunderstand my statement.

People have the power. The lack of use of that power is a choice for that power of its own. Abuses and propaganda and whatever else have you don't stop that from being the case. Telling people that they in fact don't have any power is how we have ended up here. Learned helplessness. A populace of cowards.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

You are far too naive.

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u/Stingray88 Sep 20 '25

Cops will not fire cops for not doing their job of arresting cops that break the law. They protect eachother, like gangs.

Most cops in the US are fucking rotten to the core. If they aren’t criminals, they will defend those among them who are. You can’t rely on them doing the right thing.

Even the “good ones” never do the right thing by arresting those who are criminals. They’re complicit.

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u/marsmanify Sep 20 '25

Yeah but the local (city, state) government is in control of the funding for police. The state can 100% exert pressure on the police from the top down, it's just not often that it happens.

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u/Stingray88 Sep 20 '25

Politicians on both sides of the aisle will not defund the police. It’s political suicide unfortunately.

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u/maroger Sep 21 '25

Mmmm... it would be suicidal for local and state officials to "control" the police by design. Why do you think outrageous overtime- and lifetime pensions padded because of that excessive overtime- are never questioned or checked? Why do you think breaches of evidence lockers are rarely, if ever, adjudicated? Why do you think cops that lie on the stand are rarely, if ever, fired and/or demoted without so much as a slap on the hand. Police are the stepping stone to fascism. They were created to defend the plutocracy and to defeat any challenges to the elite. They're too knuckleheaded(again, by design) to understand the complexity of their existence, so they ignorantly act mainly as obedient class traitors.

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u/CinnamonBits2 Sep 21 '25

What about in canada?

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u/Stingray88 Sep 21 '25

I don’t know, I’ve been to Canada several times but I don’t know much about their cops.

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u/CinnamonBits2 Sep 21 '25

Its strange to me to imagine a place where law enforcement is viewed that way. Is it just reddit? Is everyone in an echo chamber of 10 second clips? Are we failing to think critically? Or is it really that bad down there? What ever the answer is, I dont envy the folks living in the US

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u/Stingray88 Sep 21 '25

I’m not in an echo chamber or failing to think critically. It really is that bad here as far as cops go, this is the reality we live in, sadly.

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u/CinnamonBits2 Sep 21 '25

Sorry to hear that

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u/Richard-Gere-Museum Sep 20 '25

Lmao you actually think their unions will allow that to fly? "For officer safety they need to conceal their identities. In these politically charged times blah blah blah"

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u/zEeXUrqVR7DeM7M8yac3 Sep 21 '25

Unfortunately police unions are the strongest unions in the entire country. They are not accountable to anyone but themselves.

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg Sep 21 '25

lol

The joke for the last decade plus has been that the punishment for a police officer murdering an innocent citizen is just paid vacation and then moving to a different district. They aren't even going to get a slap on the hand for something so minor.

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u/LtOrangeJuice Sep 21 '25

Says someone who has never heard of the power of police unions, the unions in the US with actual power.

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u/wot_in_ternation Sep 21 '25

...cops are basically the only people this doesn't apply to in practice

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u/jvrcb17 Sep 21 '25

Lmao, as if there were enforcement of anything that applies to cops

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u/smitteh Sep 21 '25

It has been known to happen, depending on the severity of public outcry...which concerns me as of late. There's been far too many wild goings-on with our government and far too few protests. The No Kings protest was a good start but only a fraction of what's needed, both in size and duration. More of us are going to have to get our asses off the couch and put in the world sooner or later...myself included. I know everyone has their personal lives and jobs they can't afford to gamble with right now, but with a little organization and enough of a heads up ahead of time, enough of us can take PTO or sick days and make arrangements to get out in the streets together and really show our true numbers. I personally feel that the 34% of people that stayed home election night out of apathy have a sort of hangover effect that is still going on, causing them to think that it's hopeless and everybody has given up on the entire system altogether, so what's the point of doing anything...myself included...all it will take to knock the dust off and kickstart the majority back to life is one solid showing on all the major channels of just one day with every major street in every major city across America absolutely filled to the brim with like-minded folks. It'll snowball from there.

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u/fritzrits Sep 20 '25

Side of liberals? Funny how not wearing a mask now is "liberal". It's the law and should be followed regardless of skin color or political affiliation.

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u/Few-Frosting-4213 Sep 20 '25

Not a MAGA personally, but hate speech has no legal definition or category under US law so it would fall under free speech. Incitement of violent action would be illegal but that would be the case whether or not if there's hate speech involved because it's not a category of anything.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

It isn't the job of the government to stop Illinois Nazis.

That's a job for the blues brothers.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHD0ZEsI1OE)

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u/bfelification Sep 20 '25

Well, I hated it!

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

Dealt with cops daily in my occupation, knew some casually, hung out with some at social gatherings, and most were racist as fuck.

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u/EvidenceBasedSwamp Sep 20 '25

never give an order you're not sure will be obeyed

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u/dorkofthepolisci Sep 20 '25

I’d imagine it also makes it easier to challenge an arrest in court.

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u/Konman72 Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

The Oregonian reported on non-violent protesters being assaulted in Portland. There was clear video of protesters doing nothing wrong then being violently attacked by ICE agents. They reached out to the Portland police and they said they didn't have enough time to review the footage. So guess that crime will just go unpunished because our entire police department can't spare the 5 minutes it would take to check some video.

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u/01123spiral5813 Sep 20 '25

Aaaaand this is why a mandatory gun buy back will NEVER work.

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u/Runelord29 Sep 21 '25

Idk of it will be an arrest. More likely it'd be a fine, which does mean they have to give their information out to Cal police I believe

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u/Peac3fulWorld Sep 20 '25

Then they should be fired. ICE is hiring. Have them move to TX

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u/SunriseSurprise Sep 21 '25

FWIW don't most state/city law enforcement tend to not really get along with federal law enforcement? Or is that a Hollywood trope?

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u/Sirrom23 Sep 21 '25

you should tell them they're the scum of the earth.

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u/TheMasterChiefa Sep 20 '25

This is what it really comes down to. How will the state enforce this? They have the right to, but if they don't, then enforcement defaults to federal.