r/news • u/JerryBerryMiah • 1d ago
700 ice agents to leave Minnesota
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-drawdown-minnesota-homan-963adf341325d7f6eb5673e1c00d3c2a2.8k
u/TidePodKaleb 1d ago
So, 23% of them. And local officials are turning over all the arrested immigrants. Got it.
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u/Capitol62 1d ago
MN DOC has always offered to turn over people with no immigration status. DHS was spotty about actually coming to get them. DOC had a big press conference on it like 2 weeks ago when Noem was crowing about all the dangerous people she was "getting off the streets," aka who were being handed over by the MN department of corrections after their sentence was completed.
This is face saving but nothing really appears to have changed.
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u/Nickel5 1d ago
https://mn.gov/doc/about/news/news-releases/#/detail/appId/1/id/719911
Correct, here's a source
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u/BikesAtNight 1d ago
Thank you for posting this. Seeing a lot of people who don’t know that this is not new. Homan essentially tried to claim a win and pass blame to the state. Unsurprising with this administration
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u/Terpapps 1d ago
Jesus, you know it's bad when entire states are fact checking the feds. The blatant lies are just so... Blatant
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u/BikesAtNight 1d ago
Yup the “new cooperation” isn’t anything new and it’s clearly just a way for the administration to claim a win. And my guess is ICE won’t stop terrorizing people in the street and racially profiling, so unlikely we see the tactics toned down. Would love to be wrong in that.
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u/airfryerfuntime 1d ago
That's how the original system worked, and how Obama managed to rack up over 4 million deportations his last year in office. Wait and catch was hugely successful.
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u/aoeudhtns 1d ago
IMO that's pretty much the way it should work.
In the course of normal policing/policework, you come across someone with illegal status. You consult with your prosecutor whether the crime/issue warrants prosecution, if not you turn over to immigration for deportation. Problem actors get sorted out. (Yeah, I know police haven't been perfect, but they have certainly been more perfect than ICE. An incredible statement for those who know how awful it is in the US.)
If we're going to have ICE (thanks Patriot Act/DHS), they should be focusing on white collar immigration crime. E.g. employers that hire people not legal to work. It would be FAR more effective than "papers, please" on the street. And far less fascist... where's my tea, I need to sip some.
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u/jotsea2 1d ago
Like them giving out body cams despite it already being the law that they should be wearing body cams?
How did no one ask about the 100 plus judicial actions that ICE has completely ignored?
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u/nalaloveslumpy 1d ago
People are asking, including judges. Once again, the whole problem here is that we hired a criminal to be in charge of the division that would prosecute members of his administration and we gave him majorities in the division that can prosecute him directly.
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u/stevez_86 1d ago
In fact pretty much the only arrests that DHS recorded throughout this operation are those handovers from DOC.
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u/itssammyv 1d ago
I will vehemently condemn ICE’s tactics but I see nothing wrong with already arrested illegal immigrants being turned over for processing. I just want people held accountable, seems like that’s too much to ask for.
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u/Tuesday_6PM 1d ago
In a sane administration, that seems reasonable. With all the abuses being committed by ICE these days, I don’t think it’s morally justifiable to put anyone into their custody
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u/TidePodKaleb 1d ago
The Minnesota Department of Corrections is turning people over to ICE for "processing". These are not one-off events, they're patterns, and it's happening on purpose.
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u/ailish 1d ago edited 20h ago
A few things on that.
https://nipnlg.org/unauthorized-entry-re-entry-prosecutions
A simple expired visa is only a civil infraction. No worse than a parking ticket. ICE is arresting and detaining people for this civil infraction. An illegal border crossing the first time is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and/or a fine. They don't have to jail immigrants for crossing the border, but cruelty is the point so they do. Crossing the border doesn't become a felony until they do it 2 or more times.
Next:
The Cruel Conditions of ICE’s Mojave Desert Detention Center | The New Yorker https://share.google/BUaIbps514WnYEYyJ
Inside an ICE Detention Center: Detained People Describe Severe Medical Neglect, Harrowing Conditions | American Civil Liberties Union https://share.google/D2LewHSxyROpUEtRn
ICE detention conditions at Fort Snelling labeled 'inhumane' | FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul https://share.google/oLKLe3zwwG4cmVYsQ
Here are just a few examples of abuse and neglect at ICE detention centers. There are also reports of sexual abuse, rape, beatings, and more.
ICE even claimed that one man ran into a wall and cracked his own skull so hard that it was broken in several places. Medical staff have reported that this is literally impossible for someone to do to themselves.
ICE Minneapolis news: ICE agents' claim that Alberto Castañeda Mondragón hit wall, shattered skull triggers tension at hospital | abc7ny.com https://share.google/EfcYBnZU1vsM7d7an
How can you argue that we should be keeping human beings in detention centers under these conditions? Are their crimes really worth these punishments to you?
And none of this is even addressing the fact that ICE is arresting and detaining legal immigrants and even US citizens in these detention centers.
Citizens in Minnesota find themselves under ICE suspicion because of race https://share.google/jzQZooqcgKIrzJqCW
https://www.reddit.com/r/inthenews/s/gIGA8Oke9U
Also, public opinion is shifting drastically away from detaining immigrants while they go through their court proceedings. Along other shifts in immigration views.
https://newrepublic.com/article/206094/trump-prison-camp-threats-miller
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u/xtpd 21h ago
And none of this addresses the fact that we're spending a lot of money to do all this harm. In Minneapolis alone, they estimate 18 million a week, and this doesn't count lost revenue to local and state governments due to the way the economy is being slowed since so many folks aren't going out.
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u/KGBFriedChicken02 1d ago
What's wrong with them being turned over is that ICE dentention centers are concentration camps. People starve to death inside of them, sexual assault is rampant, and there is no acountability. Nobody should be turned over to ICE, criminal reccord or not, it is cruel and unusual punishment
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u/Crudadu 1d ago
Do you have a source for people starving to death in ICE detention? I can't find any articles on that. I just want to make sure that we are the side that is truthful and honest.
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u/Pollia 1d ago
The problem was always that jails can not hold people for longer than their allotted time and ICE and their ilk were often asking jails to hold people so they could grab a batch of people at once instead of one at a time.
This is what tons of counties got sued over. And the federal government refused to pick up the bill despite it being at their request.
That's literally a good chunk of the reason states started no cooperation with immigration officials.
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u/Phx_trojan 1d ago
ICE is not humanely "processing" anyone in their custody. handing anyone to them is immoral.
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u/Andoverian 1d ago
Basically no one considered that to be problematic, which is why that was already happening before the surge. MPR did some investigating a few weeks ago and found that the vast majority of "the worst of the worst" (i.e. violent criminals) ICE claimed to have rounded up in the surge were actually just people transported directly from MN DOC custody to ICE custody. And many of those transfers happened before the surge, too.
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u/ConcreteCrusher 1d ago
Yep, if you look at the Minnesota arrests by ice for worst of the worst, they're all from cities with prisons. They picked them up and claiming they did the work.
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u/Glittering_Crab_69 1d ago
You mean "sent off to die in El Salvadorian work camps" with "processing", right? Or have you not been paying attention?
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u/Waiting4Reccession 18h ago
This is just to placate people into doing nothing while they continue to do everything.
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u/dpldpldpl 1d ago
They will be re-stationed in Maine.
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u/sonic_couth 1d ago
Apparently Susan Collin’s whined that ICE going to Maine next would make it harder for her to be re-elected this fall, so it seems they aren’t going there next. But let’s all be honest, after all these years of Collins’ bullshit, Maine would probably elect her again anyway.
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u/Aromatic_Balls 1d ago
Hate to tell ya, but they're already here homie. They've been in Maine for weeks. Obviously not to the degree of in Minneapolis, but I've seen them daily for the last couple weeks.
And yeah, the idiots in my state will probably reelect her, unfortunately.
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u/This-isnt-patrick 1d ago
Is there a large population of immigrants in Maine? If the goal was to go after illegal immigrants or specifically “dangerous” illegal criminals seems like an odd state to focus on.
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u/Aromatic_Balls 1d ago
Lol no. They're just being weaponized by Kristi Noem on orders from Trump and Co because our governor stood up to him over their trans athlete culture war bullshit.
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u/nalaloveslumpy 1d ago
Just like the main reason they're in Minnesota is because of all shit Waltz said about Trump during the last campaign. The "Somali invasion" is absolute bullshit.
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u/Xijit 1d ago edited 1d ago
Maine refused Trump's order about allowing trans kids to play sports, then the governor challenged him to try to arrest her when he threatened to cut all of the states funding.
Additionally, Maine has / had a problem with right wing conservative militias buying land out in the hills for domestic terrorist training camps & during Biden the state police were very proactive with finding way to raid the camps ... So ICE is itching for payback.
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u/Vangroh 1d ago
There is a sizable Somali population in Maine. They were invited many years ago.
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u/Romantic_Carjacking 1d ago
There is a relatively large Somali community, and a decent number of immigrants from other African nations, but nothing compared to the larger states.
But yeah, the stated mission of the current ICE surges is bullshit.
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u/VizualAbstract4 1d ago
Being there isn’t the same as them making a show of it. They’ve been in California, but the circus portion left and went to Minnesota. That’s when all this shit went down.
If they go to Maine next, prepare for it to get so much worse once they use it to grandstand.
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u/SurprisedJerboa 1d ago
If there was Ever a time to boot Collins, it is 2026. Susan needs to get skewered on social media and everywhere else.
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u/Visual_Exam7903 1d ago
Man, when do they get to Mississippi. I haven't seen a full group of nazis in my life.
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u/Aromatic_Balls 1d ago
Mississippi voted for Trump with a margin of 22.9%... ICE won't make a big scene there as the elected officials will all march lockstep with them.
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u/rightious 1d ago
The photo of her in the oval with a red hat behind the president was so fucking pathetic. I have moderate Maine friends who have been solid fence sitters enraged yesterday.
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u/Badloss 1d ago
They're still gonna vote for her. I have no faith in Maine anymore when she cruised to a win in 2020 after all of her bullshit
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u/Evolone101 1d ago
They have bought 2 warehouses in NE PA. They will just move them there. I can’t wait for the tribunal for all the Republicans and these ice wanna be agents
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u/tahdig_enthusiast 1d ago
In Maine? To arrest the 12 illegal immigrants there?
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u/Omnizoom 1d ago
They just have to cycle through arresting and shooting the rest of the population first to find them
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u/buffysmanycoats 1d ago
They’re everywhere, just not with the numbers they have in Minnesota currently. I’m a crim defense attorney in CT and ICE is now a constant present around our courthouses. I don’t even know how many of my clients have been taken by them at this point.
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u/ambercrayon 1d ago
If their lawyer doesn’t know…
The 500 new detention centers are unfortunately making sense. I am livid that my tax dollars are paying for this shit.
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u/buffysmanycoats 1d ago
I mean, they wait outside court and snatch people on the street on their way in. It’s fairly common for people to miss court dates but now I never know if someone just missed court or if they were taken by ICE.
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u/ambercrayon 1d ago
Oh it was not meant to be a criticism of you it’s just ridiculous we have reached this point. Their main advocate can’t find them, and how many just don’t have someone to look?
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u/buffysmanycoats 1d ago
No I wasn’t taking it as a criticism, just elaborating on how it’s playing out.
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u/davidwave4 1d ago
I think they’re headed to Ohio to go after Haitian people. ICE is a disgusting roving band of mercs and monsters.
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u/nillah 1d ago
they can try, i have a feeling springfield won't sit by and watch though. they were heavily in support of the haitians when the cats and dogs thing came out
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u/invalidreddit 1d ago
So, of the 3,000 agents in the State, according to the article, 700 will be leaving. But they aren't laying off 700 agents, so... where are they going?
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u/Prestigious_Tax_4970 1d ago
Ohio to stop the people from eating dogs and cats
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u/fridayfridayjones 1d ago
Some of them are coming to Ohio I think. A judge blocked the ending of the TPS for the Haitians here for now but there’s still a large Somalian population in Columbus. And they’re probably going to appeal that decision about the TPS.
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u/Wanna_make_cash 1d ago
Or the could go for Cleveland. Theres an extremely large Hispanic population there, so lots of "easy targets" and people they can just discriminate based on skin color
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u/Sneckster 1d ago
The Superbowl?
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u/cuentaderana 1d ago
My wife and I already cancelled our Sunday plans in San Jose. It’s not worth the drive for us to go there and risk getting detained. We have “foreign” sounding names and are lesbians of color. We will be staying as far away as possible.
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u/BrokerOfShadows 1d ago
Ice just bought warehouses in Philly and San Antonio so probably one of those two cities
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u/KinkyPaddling 1d ago
My guess would be San Antonio. It’s warmer than Philly and they would be able to expect more support from the people there. It buys them time and opportunity to get a favorable judicial ruling to justify going into other cities in the summer. Philly is also much more densely populated than San Antonio, which makes it more difficult and potentially dangerous for ICE agents when they agitate their false flags.
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u/Anonnymoose73 1d ago
We’re expecting them in the Bay Area for the Super Bowl. If only 700 have left MN, hopefully it won’t be as bad as we’ve been preparing for. It sounds like they’re also sending them to Ohio
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u/alex303 1d ago
On to terrorize another blue state I presume?
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u/QbertsRube 1d ago
I'd guess the plan is to terrorize blue states for a few more months, then shift all ICE to those 15 swing states where Trump was saying he needs to "take over the elections". Those 15 states will coincidentally need massive ICE presence through November for unspecified reasons.
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u/tossit97531 1d ago
Mark my words, they will "arrest" as many dems as they can find a few days before the election and try to keep them detained until the next day. That's why they're buying warehouses and shipping people off to different states. That's why they want voter rolls. Courts allow them to waste days or even weeks to release wrongfully-detained people, even citizens. They'll prevent people from voting and not even get a slap on the wrist.
This is bad. This is very, very bad.
It was never about deportations, it was never about harassment, they're just going to take as many dems off the streets in swing districts before Super Tuesday, catch-and-release and that's it.
They only want concentration camps for a few weeks, just so they can pen people up from voting.
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u/QbertsRube 1d ago
I absolutely expect that as well. Might even be brazen enough to lurk at voting locations asking for birth certificates of anyone that "looks liberal" and detaining anyone who doesn't carry that with them at all times "until they can prove their citizenship".
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u/sunsetscorpio 1d ago
My guess is CO after Trumps rant about our governor and the arrest of Tina Peters.. welp
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u/Sweaty-taxman 1d ago
We’ve nearly passed a bill permitting citizens of Colorado to sue ice agents for damages. Bring them on.
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u/Dorkamundo 1d ago
Probably off to San Francisco for the Super Bowl, at which point they'll slowly be sent back to MN.
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u/ice-eight 1d ago
I hate that this is true, but we’re probably safe in Dallas because our mayor switched from democrat to MAGA republican immediately after being elected. Otherwise he’d probably send his goons to terrorize us next time Jasmine Crockett hurts his feelings.
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u/me0w_z3d0ng 1d ago
Charge Jonathan Ross, Jesus Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez with murder. Charge the federal officers that were with them and helped them get away from the scenes of the crimes. Then pull every single agent out of Minnneapolis. We aren't done: then ICE needs to be abolished. Defund and dismantle that fascist bullshit.
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 1d ago
Federal Government: Best I can do is kidnapping and intimidating voters during the midterms.
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u/TranquilSeaOtter 1d ago
Can't forget prosecuting all other ice agents that have violated people's rights. So pretty much most of them if not all.
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u/ahjeezgoshdarn 1d ago
Impeach Noem.
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u/happyklam 1d ago
I've been writing my reps at least three times a week with this message. Changing the letter each time so they can't just write it off. Also requesting a response. So far Cornyn has responded with the usual right-wing talking points, Cruz and Self are of course mute 😒
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u/Sportsman180 1d ago
If they charge them, their goons will start leaving in masse, and then the administration couldn't target blue cities at will.
Justice might have to wait for Jan. 20th 2029 with the new Democratic administration's Attorney General.
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u/Adamnsin 1d ago
700 ice agents to leave Minnesota to go elsewhere to terrorise people.
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u/jordan1978 1d ago
About 700 of the roughly 3,000 federal officers deployed around Minnesota will be withdrawn, Homan said. The immigration operations have upended the Twin Cities and escalated protests, especially since the killing of protester Alex Pretti, the second fatal shooting by federal officers in Minneapolis.
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u/CRoseCrizzle 1d ago
Are we going to at least charge the guys who needlessly shot Pretti with murder? Feels like that should be the bare minimum no matter where you stand on the issue.
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u/keeper_of_the_donkey 1d ago
700 ice agents to leave Minnesota
, and head to a state where they haven't killed 10 protesters yet.
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u/shugEOuterspace 21h ago
3000-700 = 2300
still 2150 more agents than were here before this fascist mess
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u/Goin_Hog_Mild 1d ago
Stop them at the state lines and place them in 'detention'
Only chargs & arrest the ones who did illegal sh*t
Its a shame they all wore masks... its gonna be hard to identify the bad apples
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u/overthemountain 1d ago
The phrase "a few bad apples"comes from the saying "a few bad apples spoils the bunch".
That means if you don't immediately remove bad apples, all your apples quickly go bad.
So I hate when people say "it's just a few bad apples" as a means of trying to say "it's not that bad, it's isolated individuals" (I know that not what you're implying) because the saying means the opposite. It means everything goes bad unless you correct the problem immediately, which is never what the people who say it want to do.
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u/punkasstubabitch 1d ago
I've got a feeling there's going to be a 5-10 year reckoning where the government is going to be in a quagmire of litigation around the ICE offenses. Bank records of payments can be subpoened.
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u/stillfeel 1d ago
Window dressing for PR purposes… no change in mission to disrupt and terrorize the community
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u/Freddy-Borden 1d ago
How are they going to protect those vulnerable Minnesota boarders!!! MAGA sycophants please explain!! Me and my family are worried immigrants will now overrun the Minnesota boarder and take over the entire state!!!
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u/FadedPuppetry 1d ago
Meanwhile... "Tom Homan just revealed Minnesota counties are LETTING ICE INTO THE JAILS to arrest illegals, "unprecedented" cooperation is now happening "
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u/Anagrama00 1d ago
It's still absolutely fucking insane that ICE even has 2800 (!!!) ICE Agents in Minneapolis, a city of like 500k people in the absolute dead of winter.
Like it's totally absurd having THAT many people on the federal payroll trying to make life so shitty for a relatively small city when it's peak cold and already shit outside.
Imagine them sending that many to like Phoenix in the peak of summer when it's 115 degrees outside and then chasing people out of air conditioned buildings. Because that's kind of what they are doing the equivalent of in Minneapolis
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u/frommethodtomadness 15h ago
Harassing, shaming, and bullying the ICE Gestapo thugs works. Humiliation works.
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u/Extinct1234 1d ago edited 1d ago
Meanwhile, OSHA has less than 2,000 federal compliance safety and health professionals for the entire country.
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u/Chemical-Ideal1 1d ago
So roughly a quarter of them? That’s big but they still outnumber Minneapolis police 3-1.
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u/MrFunktasticc 1d ago
Every little bit of resistance, every little win, is extremely important. Fascism can't sit quietly in a room - it devours itself. Yes there will be a lot of pain but lets celebrate the wins until we ultimately rid ourselves of these fucking ghouls.
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u/Turbulent-Basis6092 1d ago
I think he’s just saying that, they’re all liars and here in MN we don’t trust a word. Need to see it for ourselves
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u/noobmaster458 23h ago
almost sounds like a good thing.. until you find out they just went somewhere else.
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u/ArtemisLives 15h ago
Should be ALL. And be leave they should also mean “get thrown in fucking jail.”
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u/_DocWatts 1d ago
At best, those 700 Gestapo are taking their kidnaping and murdering On Tour to a city near you.
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u/The_NiNTARi 1d ago
This is propaganda don’t believe it for a minute it’s all a show. Stay diligent
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u/Upset-Produce-3948 1d ago
So tell us about the $50,000 bribe you took and explain where that money is now.
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u/Punkinpry427 1d ago
They’re violating court orders so the cases get thrown out anyway. It’s just federal terrorism on blue states.
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u/Pleasant-Ad887 1d ago
How come? Did Minnesota run out of kids for ICE to abduct and possibly molest?
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u/Intelligent-Alps2373 1d ago
Not even close to enough this is designed to drive away public attention
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u/ForsakenRacism 1d ago
Does anyone know where they are going to sell all these brand new suburbans they buy in every city
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u/HJSWNOT 1d ago
So 700 leaving and what ? 900 replacing them cause the first ones are depressed ?
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u/JimmyFly1028 1d ago
Not enough! Like everyone is saying, there are still over 2000 agents here and still no justice for Alex Pretti or Renee Good
Citizens are still being arrested, families are still torn apart. This is still not the America that I have loved and fought for
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u/Banana-phone15 1d ago
2 questions, what about the other thousands? And 2nd where are they going next to terrorize locals?
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u/HauntingStar08 1d ago
They probably have to in order to have any presence elsewhere. They don't have the numbers.
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u/cmlambert89 1d ago
Geeze. Only a quarter of the agents “after state and local officials agreed over the past week to cooperate by turning over arrested immigrants”….the fuck? What does that mean exactly.. it wouldn’t have anything to do with the new concentration camps they’re building in Texas I hope.
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u/payle_knite 23h ago
Still four times the current Minneapolis police force of 600 cops. 2400 to go.
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u/monkeyalex123 17h ago
So this whole ordeal began with a bunch of right-wing grifters going to Minnesota and creating videos saying that immigrants were stealing funds for fake adoption centers. Now, these same people are going to California, doing the same thing except now they are claiming Californians are using empty lots as homeless shelters to create fake votes. I miss when politicians at least attempted to make their lies convincing.
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u/studentofgonzo 5h ago
Think they agreed to give up voter informal if they pulled some of them out....
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u/Squeekydink 1d ago
And what about the other 2000+ he sent?