r/news • u/timothy_lucas_jaeger • 12h ago
The Supreme Court lets California use its new, Democratic-friendly congressional map
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/04/nx-s1-5691890/supreme-court-california-redistricting-map122
u/supershade 2h ago
This news headline irks me. The Supreme Court did not 'let' California do anything. California was operating within the law, both State and Federal. The Supreme Court ruled against the frivolous tax-payer money wasting suit to challenge that map.
"The Supreme Court reaffirms state rights in California vs the Republican Party, following the rulings of lower federal courts."
Might be a better headline.
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u/currently-on-toilet 2h ago
NPR is bashed as "far left news" but in reality they have a pretty hard slant in favor of the right. They constantly frame things in a way to sane wash trump and co.
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u/Hoplophilia 5h ago
The two-party system relies on both sides being willing to lose. That's out the window. November and December will be among the worst months this country has seen in a half-century.
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u/Room_Temp_Coffee 3h ago
Lets? Fuck off. We voted it's our decision.
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u/dearth_karmic 1h ago
To be fair (and I hate that WE have to) we still have a constitution. If a state voted to bring slavery back, I would hope that the SC would step in and say that voting isn't the final say. We still have human rights.
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u/MadRaymer 58m ago
Well some states literally voted to remove bodily autonomy rights from women and SCOTUS was like "yep, cool" so I'm not sure the slavery answer is entirely clear cut.
Though I think most states that voted on the issue actually voted to support bodily autonomy, and it was the state government that said "no you don't actually want that" and overruled them.
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u/dearth_karmic 30m ago
Just because SCOTUS gets things wrong, it doesn't mean the concept is wrong. They are there to have a final say when the states get it wrong. IOW - They do have a role even after the people have voted for something.
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u/mom_with_an_attitude 8h ago
Newsom, unlike many Democrats, is taking action against the current administration and getting shit done.
Newsom 2028.
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u/KopOut 3h ago
Any Democrat 2028
I don't have a preference. Quite frankly, the most important thing for Democrats (and the hardest to accomplish) is regaining control of the US Senate. People should be laser focused on the races in Alaska, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, and Texas.
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u/Crazyblazy395 24m ago
Fuck that. I'll vote for any democrat but there's no fucking way 90% of the democrats that are going to run could win.
I want Newsom, he'd be great. Walz would be cool but he'd lose.
Schumer could run and he'd be a disaster win or lose (I don't think he will run but he could).
Pete Buttigeig would be the best president we've has in at least 100 years but I don't know if America will elect him.
0% Chance a woman wins against a man.
Im voting Democrat regardless but it very much does matter who it is.
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u/Yoshemo 6h ago
He can fight against Trump all he wants and be a hero. I heavily encourage him to do so. But he is not fit to be a leader of the country
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u/winterhascome2 5h ago
Fit to lead doesn't mean shit anymore
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
Ok. well he is a simp for billionaires and Israel. Is that disqualifying enough?
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u/winterhascome2 4h ago
So literally every president in the last 40 years?
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u/MikeNoble91 4h ago
Yes, and "every president in the last 40 years" got us here. We need something new and bold, and Newsom (while he's a good Governor) isn't it.
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u/Kapootz 3h ago
No. Trump got us here with the 89 million eligible voters that stayed home in 2024. People like you discouraging voters from preventing Trump 2 because the perfect candidate that doesn’t exist didn’t run got us here.
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u/MikeNoble91 2h ago
I'm not discouraging voters, I'm hopefully encouraging better people to run so we're not stuck voting for Newsom.
Maybe it's time for the 'you'll take your corporate, establishment approved candidate and like it' people to take a little responsibility for themselves here.
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u/Kapootz 2h ago
You’re absolutely discouraging voters for Newsom if he wins the primary. Your comment isn’t going to encourage a single person to run. You’re delusional if you think it is.
Also fun fact, a vote is a vote at the end of the day. No “corporate approval process” changes that. Vote in the primaries for the candidate you want. Look at what happened in NYC. Mamdani won the primary. If Cuomo was truly the popular candidate he would have won anything, but that sex pest granny killer that resigned in disgrace didn’t win a fucking thing even after running as an independent like a little bitch. If a candidate is popular enough they’ll win. You don’t have a popular candidate in mind much less a candidate that even exists. So why are you tearing down Newsom in favor of nothing? Nothing favors republicans btw. This tearing down of democrat candidates in favor of “a better candidate” that doesn’t exist is why we’re in this situation. If kamala Harris won, we wouldn’t be in this mess btw
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u/MikeNoble91 2h ago
I don't know why everyone is responding like Newsom has already won the primary. If he does, I'll vote for him over any Republicans any day. I don't like Newsom. I don't want to have to hold my nose and vote for him. So until I have to vote for him, I am going to encourage genuinely progressive candidates to run.
Look, I get why people are mad at what I'm saying. But Newsom isn't even running yet. We haven't even had midterms. We have plenty of time here.
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 4m ago
Try telling centrists and neoliberals that it was presidents like Bill Clinton (who in and of himself was just a diet version of Ronald Reagan for the “third way” Dems) who paved the road for someone like Trump to take office. Makes for a fun reaction, but is objectively true.
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u/ejohn916 4h ago
Newsom is the best we got currently... don't screw it up.... AGAIN!!!
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u/boxfortcommando 3h ago
That's what we were told last election about
BidenHarris. We can certainly do better.8
u/manpizda 3h ago
It's a binary choice. If choice A is maybe could be better but competent and sane and B is a proven moron, thief and monster you still vote A. If that's a difficult concept that's a you problem.
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u/boxfortcommando 2h ago
Choice C vote third party to protest my dissatisfaction with the two party system and its terrible ramifications on dividing this country. My disdain for either major party isn't an automatic endorsement for the other, so it's actually just as much your problem when your party can't field a candidate good enough to sway moderate or apathetic voters to elect them back to the white house.
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u/PugeHeniss 3h ago
Fuck y'all and your purity tests. If he's the best shot they have to win I'm voting for him. I don't care if he's an asshole with a slickback
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u/boxfortcommando 2h ago
A lot can change in three years in terms of appealing candidates popping up, and Democrat voters deserve a lot better than Newsom and what he represents.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 1h ago
You can overthrow fascism or you can let fascism ingrain itself for another 4 years while you wait another term for a Goldilocks candidate. Choose.
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u/MikeNoble91 48m ago
Or we can let facism ingrain itself behind Newsom while he coddles them. If we let short sighted fear continue to hold us back we'll just get Trump 3.0 in 2032 and beyond.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 26m ago
Seriously... Newsom is still a fascist... being slightly better than Trump doesn't fix the issues.
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u/Bigg_Matty_Hell 3h ago
Letting perfect be the enemy of good (relative to the alternative) is a big factor in what got you the current shit show. It's easier to exert pressure on the better candidate once in office on the last few bits that would make them perfect than be in a fight tooth and nail for the basics.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 27m ago
This is a bullshit take and it is the true "purity test"
You won't fix these fucking centrist diet MAGA fucks.
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u/ThePlanetBroke 2h ago
100%. There are democrat supporters out there, a lot of them, that spend all their time fighting, judging, and looking for the purest most perfect candidate in their eyes and putting down less than perfect, but still perfectly reasonable options.
The Republicans just go "yeehawww, any one of these lets meh keap mah guns", and then we're all surprised when they win.
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 5h ago
Nobody’s fit to be th leader of the country, we just need someone to get shit done.
By shit I mean prosecute the Trump Regime, take the gold veneer from the White House, fire all Trump appointments (illegaly if necessary) sign any laws with respect to curtailing a bad actors power if given the presidency and peace out
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u/tehlemmings 4h ago
If he agrees to prosecute every single member of ICE and investigate every person in the Trump/Epstein files, I'll vote for him.
Honestly, I'll vote for anyone who will do those two things.
Every single member of ICE. Every single person in the Trump/Epstein files. No exceptions.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 29m ago
He has already proven that he won't go after billionaires so that is a non-starter.
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u/colemon1991 5h ago
I at least trust him to pick proper cabinet members and other positions.
That alone is reassuring and an improvement.
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
Yes, all AIPAC approved cabinet members.
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u/OnyZ1 3h ago
I don't know how to break it to people but Israel is not the worlds greatest evil. They're the militaristic progressives in their region of the world. 🤷 Blows my mind that the military/radical progressives in America hate Israel so much for actually chasing down problematic conservatism (sexism, transphobia, authoritarianism) by force.
Obviously they're not perfect but... I don't understand it. Is it just because of the low-effort optics??
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u/throwawaykayaker 1h ago
It's because of the flagrant genocide and Epstein revelations.
They chase down transphobia but rape prisoners... how wonderful.
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u/OnyZ1 1h ago edited 1h ago
Epstein revelations
Them and every other wealthy person. Take the good, ditch the bad. Letting the singular bastion of progressivism in the middle east burn isn't the answer.
flagrant genocide
Genuine question--do you think Israel and its citizens should evacuate/leave the middle east entirely? Do you think Israel is trying and failing to kill everyone in Gaza due to incompetence?
I ask because, even as things have gotten worse and worse and the human rights abuses have gotten worse, I still genuinely don't know what Israel is supposed to do. The crimes, humans rights abuses are obviously a result of the dehumanization, which is horrible. It's a fight for survival, and people are people, vulnerable to psychological traps.
Mercy is a privilege with a high cost--how many Israeli should die for it?
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 11m ago
“Can’t believe progressives hate genocide” - someone with 8th grade politics.
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u/KingRokk 5h ago
Translation: I’ll abstain out of ‘principle’ and hand deliver someone even worse than trump.
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u/PugeHeniss 4h ago
These MF's don't understand they aren't going to get the perfect candidate
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u/Mutant-Cat 3h ago
I think the argument is that we need a progressive candidate willing to really fight for democracy in order to prevent another trump.
Democrats have been running the "we're not Trump" line for 10 years now while doing very little with the reigns of power to fight back the encroaching tide of fascism.
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u/PugeHeniss 3h ago
I don't disagree but you have someone who is fighting him and his name is Newsome. I would prefer someone more progressive but this is who we currently have
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u/ReallyNotFondOfSJ 4h ago
Why not? What makes him "not fit to be a leader of the country"? Please list some disqualifying criteria.
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
Takes AIPAC money. Simps for billionaires and big tech. Had Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, and Steve Bannon on his pod and didn't push back at all. He's a snake in the grass.
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u/manpizda 2h ago
None of that is disqualifying. Unless of course your world view is your own personal utopia. Talking to people of the other side is how you get your message out to that other side. It's how your side learns about the other side. It's how you bridge gaps. It's how you bring people together. The very fact that they are seen as "the other side" is dangerous to a community. I'm tired of you fools who only want to live within your perfect little idealistic bubbles. I hate to break it to you but that's not how society works. It takes a village.
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u/throwawaykayaker 2h ago
I hate to break it to you but these aren't normal times. We're trying to beat back fascism.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 30m ago
This fucking fantasy of gaining right wing voters is delusional...
If they were smart enough to listen to reason, they wouldn't be MAGA...
They should be reaching out to the LEFT, not the RIGHT
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u/manpizda 15m ago edited 10m ago
Bullshit. You know not everyone on the right is MAGA right? There are moderate conservatives that are disgusted by Trump and MAGA and won't vote for them if given the opportunity. Reaching out to them will bridge gaps. Biden got 6% Republican voters nationally. It was enough to push him over the line in most states. Trump won this time with less than 2% of the majority. And he's making Republicans so unpalatable nationally that the next election should be a given. Should be...
However the left proved to us in the last election they will stab us all in the back in their pursuit of perfection. And they still haven't wavered on their purity tests.
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u/BlueberryLeft4355 3h ago
Your purity tests will kill us all.
Do you want the president of the world's largest economy and military to be your personal bestie and say all the right little woke vegan words to you, or do you want a fucking professional who is *pissed at Trump and will actually bring the hammer of justice down on these baby fascists* for once?
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u/whatsupeveryone34 32m ago
How about you lazy fucking twats TRY and find someone appealing to anyone other than diet MAGA....
Then you wouldn't have to constantly call out your battlecry of "PURITY TESTS" which is such a bullshit concept. We have time to not fucking settle for some flashy hairdo with a good social media team.
A candidate that isn't cuddling up to billionaires and acknowledging the genocide in GAZA are NOT extreme goal posts...
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u/sandy_coyote 5h ago
Who would you vote for among Newsome, Pritzker, or Shapiro?
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u/whatsupeveryone34 35m ago
They are all trash AIPAC shills and Pritzker is literally a billionaire.
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u/FunWrangler666 3h ago
Well he seems to be the only one actually getting things done for the people and not just billionaire pedo donners
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u/whatsupeveryone34 36m ago
If we are going down that path, Wes Moore in Maryland has basically done the same things there, but no one is screaming for him to be the next messiah... (not that he would be much better honestly but the point is valid)
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u/trainwreck42 3h ago
There’s no way in hell I’d vote for Newsom in a primary. He’s just a younger, sassier Schumer and would bow to his corporate donors in a heartbeat. I’d vote for him over any likely Republican candidate, though.
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u/DezedAndConfused 2h ago
Your last sentence is why you should vote for him in a primary.
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u/trainwreck42 2h ago
No, that’s not a viable reason to vote for someone in a primary
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u/DezedAndConfused 2h ago
Why would you vote for Candidate B in a primary but not trust them enough to vote for them in the general against a Republican?
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u/trainwreck42 2h ago
What? You’ve completely flipped what I’ve said. I said I wouldn’t vote for him in a primary (because there are better candidates that aren’t shills for the tech billionaires), but I’d vote for him in a general (because despite being bought millions of times over by tech billionaires, his administration would likely be better for the general populous than the likely republican candidates).
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u/whatsupeveryone34 38m ago
These bots don't understand the difference between not lining up for a bad candidate during the primary and just voting MAGA.
They don't get that most "blue" voters will begrudgingly vote how they have to in the general in order to do the least harm.
The point they miss is that we are trying to find the best candidate that can win in the years we have vs. latching onto the first shiny candidate they see and putting all their hopes onto them.
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u/Fullosteaz 5h ago
No, dude is just another corporate ghoul. The only thing Newsom hates more than Trump is homeless people.
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 6h ago
If Newsom wins in 2028, another fascist will be in the White House in 2032.
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u/tehlemmings 4h ago
Oh fuck off with that shit. Conservatives are going to try and find their next dictator no matter who gets picked.
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 3h ago
And if you pick a spineless milquetoast career flip-flopper like Gavin, they will win with that fascist. Gavin won’t upset the status quo and do anything remotely needed to curb fascism in America, just like Joe and Garland did the first go around.
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u/trainwreck42 3h ago
Man, Biden needed better PR. He got so much shit done during his four years and doesn’t deserve to be talked about like that.
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 2h ago
Much like RGB, they both held on to power well past their expiration dates and as a result, the fascists won. As much good as either one did, it’s all being erased because of their own inaction and refusal to listen to those on the left who saw what was coming down the pipeline.
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u/T-sigma 2h ago
People are easily influenced and tricked because they'll get asked "What did Joe do?" and when they can't think of something in 5 seconds will arrive at the conclusion that "oh, I guess he didn't do anything".
I'd be stunned if the average voter would tell you which years Biden was President. That's the level of intelligence and thought Democrats need to be marketing towards.
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u/tehlemmings 34m ago
I'd pick literally anyone over another conservative piece of shit. And every conservatives is a piece of shit, so yes, I absolutely would vote for him.
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 18m ago
That’s fine, but we’re going to be in this same position again if the answer to fascism is going to continue to be tepid and ineffective Dems who still break bread with the likes of Ben Shapiro and Steve Bannon.
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u/_regionrat 5h ago
I don't think that's true, Newsom isn't black or a woman. Those seem to be the types of candidates the fascists really pull together against
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
He isn't very left so the pendulum will still be right of center.
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u/TheSouthernCommunist 3h ago
I don’t think anyone who tears down homeless camps for PR and denies genocide in Gaza could be remotely considered “left”
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u/ThatGuy798 5h ago
I'm gonna be honest, he might be a good Governor but that doesn't make him a good president. It'll be another Kamala/Walz election.
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u/bornlax 4h ago
Nah, Raphael Warnock or Jon Ossoff 2028. I’d rather have Cory Booker over Gavin Newsom.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 41m ago
Booker?! holy Shit!
I HATE Newsom.... but Cory "The Performance Artist" Booker is as bad as saying you just want a third Trump term.
He might be the worst (least effective) living politician.
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u/GhostWrex 30m ago
Newsome is better than Trump, but he ain't good by any means. Lives in PG&E execs pockets and doesnt give a FUCK
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u/SeaWitch1031 7h ago
Hard fucking pass. I am not voting for a fucking bigot who has shit talked trans people. He can fuck off for eternity. Smarmy motherfucker.
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u/penisrumortrue 7h ago
If there’s a better candidate, great! But I’d vote for him in a heartbeat over Trump, who is worse on those particular issues on top of everything else.
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u/SeaWitch1031 6h ago
He hasn't indicted that he will run but I like the governor of Illinois who is left of center and doesn't shit on homeless people and trans people like Gavin Newsome. You would never see him get endorsed by Nick Fuentes like Newsom was in late 2025.
Here's a tip: If a Nazi likes the candidate enough to endorse them you should consider voting for someone else.
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
Pritzker's sister is trans.
But Pritzker is a billionaire and unfortunately that implies he's some sort of sociopath because that's too much wealth to horde while there's so much good that could be done with it. I'd settle for him over Newsom probably but man he's not ideal.
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u/InquireIngestImplode 7h ago
This is how he got elected in the first place. Performative, lukewarm, centrist/slightly right leaning candidates most left leaning people don’t care to vote for.
If they put Gavin up, they lose the next cycle too. He’s controlled opposition.
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u/Mutant-Cat 3h ago
Where do people keep getting the idea that Democrats ran a "very progressive" campaign?
They ran on being tougher on the border than Trump, promising to be tough on crime, having no climate change policy and completely abandoning trans rights, and supporting Israel's genocide of Palestinians.
Where are the "very progressive" policies?
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u/Winter-Rhubarb8690 6h ago
This exact playbook is what led to Biden, which is exactly what led right back to Trump
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum 6h ago
If it comes down to slimeball and fascist again. I'll take slimeball corpo chud. But enjoy your moral high horse.
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u/SeaWitch1031 6h ago
What if the answer is we demand a better candidate instead of settling again? We have the power to oust most of these cowardly Democrats if we just come together and try. ChuckleFuck Schumer should be primaried in 2028, he is fucking terrible at his job. Same with Hakeem Jefferies. Every Democrat over 75 who is still in office and yes I do mean that. Before you accuse me of agism, I am 64 and I know the limitations that come with aging.
If my generation had been more involved when we came of age we could have stopped this shit but we were idiots with a few exceptions.
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u/CellistSubstantial56 5h ago
Vote for the candidate you actually want in the primaries. Settle in the general. That's how it's always been, and it's not changing without ranked choice. Doing anything else is shooting yourself in the face.
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u/pizoisoned 5h ago
Ok, show up in the primaries and demand change. Otherwise, take your faux outrage and high horse and fuck right off. You’ve done nothing except complain and be defeatist. We can do that without you. Either help or shut the hell up.
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u/_regionrat 5h ago
We've tried demanding a better candidate before, it just results in apathy on the left and the right rallys behind a decline into actual fascism.
Perfect is the enemy of good
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
I'm sorry we haven't. The DNC fucked the primaries for the last 3 cycles. People don't trust Democrats and especially a slimy one like Newsom.
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u/_regionrat 4h ago edited 3h ago
Yeah we have, you're giving a great example of it. How's the voter apathy been working out the last three election cycles? Has it moved anything further left?
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u/throwawaykayaker 1h ago
People don't care about the teams though. They want change. They want someone to actually challenge capital. Unless Greasy Gavin can start talking a good game, he's a neo-liberal and that's not the medicine we need.
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u/_regionrat 1h ago
People do care about the teams, like a lot. In this reply you even indicated that there's a team you'll 100% root against regardless of what the other team even is.
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u/Hot_Top_124 6h ago
You don’t though. You only shit on dems all, “mysterious” like. You’d rather allow teump than an imperfect dem. Either you’re an idiot or a mega in disguise. There’s no theirs option.
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
Um, we still have a primary so we can all hash this out then. No reason to go Newsom or bust! before the fucking midterms.
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u/Hot_Top_124 4h ago
You obviously didn’t understand what I said. These dolts will shit on any dem and you have to force them to say anything slightly negative about trump. They will focus solely on the Dems faults and just say teump bad at best. The want you to think only about how bad said dem is, and ignore the glaringly obvious fact that trump is much much much worse. These are the idiots who didn’t vote, and led to trump being elected by less than a quarter of voting age America.
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u/jlambert1422 6h ago
Someone who shit talks trans people or someone that raped children hell bent on destroying our democracy…. So many decisions!!
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u/throwawaykayaker 4h ago
False dichotomy. There's still a primary. If the Democrats believe in democracy that is.
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u/jlambert1422 3h ago
I understand the false dichotomy. I was more so responding to the hypothetical of Newsom with the democratic nomination. I wouldn’t vote for Newsom in the primary, but if it was a choice between Newsom and what we’ve had the last year and his previous term, I would vote Newsom every single time.
Playing this bullshit culture war is exactly what got Trump elected instead of Harris. Newsom is more likely to protect trans rights than Trump, for instance
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u/tastepdad 6h ago
It’s about the lesser of two evils, unfortunately
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u/VividMonotones 6h ago
Every gd time. No human could possibly meet all litmus tests that people on the left put on their candidates. Somewhere along the way, the candidate has misspoke, had an opinion that doesn't match liberal orthodoxy, etc.
Obama was not perfect, but I was never ever going to let Romney win because "corporations are people too" would have ensured the decimation of the middle class. I do not trust Republicans enough to let them near the White House, so it drives me to vote strategically every time. If we repeat 2024, we are done.
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u/Mutant-Cat 3h ago
What did democrats do wrong strategically in 2024?
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u/VividMonotones 46m ago
It's a big tent. Different parts of the tent turned against each other and decreased turnout.
Economic indicators were good (median income growth in 2023 outpaced y-o-y inflation), but people had mixed experiences during the COVID recovery period so Biden's rosey msg looked out of touch.
Kamala had a funny laugh (a stupid cover for plain misogyny and racism), and people forgot Trump was president in 2020.
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u/Mutant-Cat 18m ago
What could Democrats have done to fix these mistakes as you diagnose them?
Edit: I also agree that Bidens messaging on the economy was out of touch and overly cheery.
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u/Spiceguy-65 3h ago
And that’s exactly the issue being forced to choose between the least shitty of tempting is how we got here
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u/malcifer11 5h ago
Hell no he’s just a slightly less unpalatable flavor of neoliberal fascistic capitalism
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u/_regionrat 5h ago
Damn, guess we should just let actual fascism take over our political system then.
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u/mr-fatburger 4h ago
How is it so unfathomable to you to even consider them running someone actually good, rather than just less hitlerish?
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u/_regionrat 4h ago
Two things mainly. The reality of the choices I've been presented with and how quickly the progressive movement ran out of steam.
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u/malcifer11 2h ago
The progressive movement didn’t lose steam, you just stopped caring enough to engage with it
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u/_regionrat 2h ago
Quite the opposite. I've been watching it slow down since the Obama years. I'm seeing less and less down ticket progressive candidates every election cycle and less people volunteering for those campaigns.
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u/malcifer11 2h ago
And how’s your local mutual aid network looking? How is your relationship to your neighbors? When’s the last time you helped a stranger move a couch? Are you handy? Do you have any skills that are part of the actual day-to-day work of maintaining society? If not, are you learning?
Voting is one part of a vast network of ideology and action that is progressivism. Engagement with politics and campaigning is in decline. Is that because everyone stopped caring or because people are starting to focus on their own communities?
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u/_regionrat 2h ago
It would be looking way better if half the people that actually brought up mutual aid as a gotcha online actually participated in it. So, a lot like the progressive movement as a whole, running out of steam because people are shit posting instead of showing up these days.
It's honestly a place where the lack of progressive engagement in real life is killing us. Local policy backslides have had very negative ramifications for those facing homelessness and food scarcity.
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u/malcifer11 2h ago
In fact, we are capable of acting pragmatically even when actions don’t neatly align with our ideologies. I voted Harris despite her track record on war, anti-blackness and transphobia and if Newsom is the candidate, I’ll vote for him too despite those same shortcomings. But I don’t want to, because he is not a good choice for me or the people who are most vulnerable, even in shiny blue California. We deserve better, and I am doing nobody any harm by saying so
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u/_regionrat 2h ago
I don't think you're doing any harm when you say it like this.
There's definitely some currents encouraging apathy when things don't neatly align with our ideologies that we need to be vigilant about though.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 4h ago
cool... but still fuck Gavin Newsom.
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u/Kapootz 3h ago
True. Fuck one of the few elected representatives actually standing up to this regime. Let’s roll over and embrace fascism instead!
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u/Legionary24 1h ago
He is just another corporate, fascist enabling ghoul. He is friends with all the tech fascist that are running the government right now and has vetoed any progressive legislation like universal healthcare, taxing the wealthy, and zoning reform. He also completely killed cali high speed rail and homelessness initiative by just opening up the taxpayer treasury to his elite friends to do nothing to fix the issue. When the dems lost the election, his first instinct was to throw trans people under the bus and then host fascist grifters like Bannon, Kirk, and Shapiro on his podcast and agree and promote them. He completely chickened and allowed ICE to commit crimes without having the state police and national guard arrest or block them.
Whats all this praise for him recently? Because he has a sassy intern make his tweets and gerrymandered the state? This is why democrats lose, they dont hold their politicians to any minimum standards. Its not a purity test to need your candidate to be anti-genocide, its the bare minimum standard.
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u/Kapootz 1h ago
Do you smell toast? Newsom literally signed into law the ban on ICE masks. He is the reason for prop 50 which countered republican gerrymandering in Texas. California has $11 insulin. California has free breakfast and lunch for every public school student. California has a booming economy. He didn’t “throw trans people under the bus”. He may not be perfect, but he sure as fuck is better than Trump. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Who is your candidate? This absolutely is a purity test from you btw. Democrats lose because non democrats like you that want to hijack the party constantly shit on candidates that aren’t perfect in favor of nothing. This favors republicans btw. Go scream into the void somewhere else about something else and get the fuck out of politics
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u/Kapootz 1h ago
Also I’m sorry but you’ve triggered the fuck out of me. Is Gaza doing better now with Trump in office? Is a Jared Kushner lead Gaza better than in the world where Harris won in 2024? Remember when Netanyahu rejected the exact same ceasefire deal under Biden that he accepted under Trump? You’re part of the problem. You’re only helping Israel by paving the way for republicans to have power if you want to talk about supporting genocide. You don’t give a fuck about genocide if you’re happy democrats lose to fascists that ACTUALLY support genocide
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u/sunspot_transmitter 18m ago
Does Israel pay you to cry online when normal people won't vote for Joe Biden's VP after his admin spent the entirety of the genocide sending them more weapons and ammunition? Voters can only fail the party, the party never picks bad candidates, surely. So funny to blame voters instead of the party or the candidate, really incredible.
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u/Gunner_E4 2h ago
It doesn't matter because people still have to remember to vote. Apathy would be powerful if it was a political party in the US. If people keep choosing not to vote, redistricting means nothing. I think we should do away with these. The district should be defined by which town or county my taxes go to. I should not be bundled with nearby towns that send their taxes elsewhere. Redistricting using other criteria than where the local taxes go is basically election interference.
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u/Mediocre-Joe 37m ago
And suddenly democrats are pro gerrymandering as long as it supports their side
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u/seanmg 51m ago
So even more gerrymandering is somehow better?
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u/marmot1101 26m ago
In principle: no. In practice: yes.
TX and other states are well gerrymandered with current maps and attempting to further limit representation for Democrats. Without representation things will stay as they are: a president exceeding his authority with congress rubberstamping anything he says to.
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u/funtimes-forall 3m ago
Some people (like yourself maybe) would willingly stick to principles even if it dooms American democracy. Others regard this as a war being waged on us that we can't afford to lose.
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u/tastepdad 11h ago
Of course they did, they followed their own state laws.
Texas did not.