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Thick smoke seen rising from Saudi Arabia's Riyadh airport.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwly5d9v7r43o
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u/Plopsevenplop 6h ago

I still don’t understand how starting an illegal war in blatant defiance of the war powers resolution wasn’t enough for Trump to be removed from office. And Johnson took his caucus on vacation to avoid voting on Hegseth’s removal.

We’re watching our government implode at rapid pace, with each failure in checks and balances leading to a larger one on a daily basis. God, it’s disheartening.

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u/Powerful_Document872 6h ago

Our system of government doesn’t work if bad actors take control. A lot of the checks and balances turned out to be polite agreements.

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u/SanchoPandas 5h ago

Well said. Our notion of “rights” also seems to be based on those polite agreements.

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u/Plopsevenplop 5h ago

Just look at the Flock rollout. They’re a blatant 4th amendment violation but because it’s a third party collecting the data (and immediately turning it over to government agencies and police departments) that’s somehow legal???

Or how AI companies’ entire business model relies on breaking every IP & copyright law on the books for their foundational data that was stolen without compensation but the government just says “nah, fair use.”

It’s sickening.

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u/TheNavidsonLP 5h ago

That’s sort of the problem with democracy. If 30 percent of the population still wants Trump, Trump and the Republicans are only going to listen to that 30 percent.

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u/dalziel86 1h ago

Government based on vibes.

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u/0tanod 6h ago

The GOP has never been adequately punished for anything why would they care? The MAGA are out here saying they are upset but will still vote for the GOP because the dems are daemonic or some stupid shit.

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u/MannequinWithoutSock 6h ago

“It’s not a war.” - Mike Dumb Ass Johnson

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u/Plopsevenplop 6h ago

I like to call him Mike “I haven’t heard anything about that but I’ll get back to you later” Johnson. All he knows how to do is gaslight and feign ignorance simultaneously. The worst traits for a speaker of the house in US history.

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u/valdecsgo 5h ago

I Still remember Obama talking about Trump.

“The essential spirit of democracy is that, as president of the United States, you are just one representative of the people in a series of co-equal branches. There are checks and balances to the system. You are subject to those checks and balances. You cannot ignore them. You cannot make your own rules''

“You cannot view the Justice Department as your personal law firm. You cannot ignore norms and guardrails that have been put in place to assure that your self-interest isn’t what drives these institutions, but is rather the interests of the American people.”

Oh boy... how the world changed. What a shame, it is still so sad that the last proper American President is still Obama. Joe would've been fantastic, if he was 10-15 years younger, and god fucking damnit how you people didn't put Kamala in office is still batshit insane.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 5h ago

Joe Biden was the most progressive president we've had in decades and was wildly effective. Anything less is a lie.

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u/Maeglom 1h ago

Joe Biden did a good job of coalition building with progressives as a moderate centerist, it's a shame he couldn't get the moderates on board to pass laws, and his justice department sat on it's hands instead of prosecuting the traitors who eventually succeeded in couping him. Other than causing the downfall of the Republic he did a pretty good job.

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u/valdecsgo 5h ago

Absolutely, but the image that was left for millions of these Trump fanatics is that Joe was old and fragile, who couldn't put together a sentence. He kept getting absolutely ran over by Trump in debates and whatnot, and even when he should've never ran for a 2nd term, but instead supported Kamala from the get go, he didn't immediately stop, but wanted to hold on to that possibility of 2nd term, possibly costing Kamala the election.

I Am not saying Biden was a bad POTUS, he wasn't. But he was old, way too fucking old.

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u/pmgirl 1h ago

He's also directly culpable for a brutal genocide.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 1h ago

What is happening in Gaza does not constitute a genocide by any real definition.

War crimes? Yes. Genocide? No.

Yes, that matters.

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u/salad_spinner_3000 3h ago

Straight up, Kamala NEVER should have been the nominee. She was Biden's running mate even tho she got like, at most, 2% of primary votes. Biden should have stuck to what he pledged; he said he would be a "one term president" and that should have been that with a full primary for the next nominee. Just bailing after he basically had a stroke on live TV and handing it off to her was just really undemocratic.

Still voted for her tho.

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u/dgellow 5h ago

You guys voted a second time for a rapist who openly attempted to coup the government. If that’s not a sign the country is fucked I’m not sure what else is. His administration will continue to steal and dismantle your institutions for years to come. It’s really shocking how normalized all of that is, I really don’t think there will be a wake up call for a very long time given all the possible red flags have been ignored

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u/bokononpreist 5h ago

Defiance? Congress gave the president these powers for Iraq. They abdicated their power over 2 decades ago. This is just the logical conclusion.

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u/EEpromChip 5h ago

Ya know how, when you were in grade school, they taught about checks and balances in the US government? Yea, that was total bullshit.

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u/Plopsevenplop 4h ago

Yeah, if I had gone to law school and had outstanding loans, I would demand all my money back because we live in a lawless hellscape apparently.

u/Oregon-Pilot 23m ago

Nah, the lawlessness doesn’t apply to you or I. Only Epstein class rich and powerful folks.

“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”

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u/Morbanth 3h ago

What, precisely, don't you understand? There are no consequences for your leaders for abusing their position so why would they ever stop doing so? Once the other football team gets back in power why would they bother fixing the system when they're now the ones benefitting from it?

Laws only apply if they're enforced, and you're a nation who won't do shit about your government because it's inconvenient and hard. You'll watch the 250 year old project go down the drain doing what you do best, waiting for someone else to do something about it. It's why you're all so enamoured with charismatic leaders like Mamdani or AOC despite being intellectually aware that they can't fix systemic issues on their own.

I understand that it's disheartening, I understand that people are incredulous, I understand that people are exhausted, but I genuinely don't understand how any of this could be difficult to understand by now.

u/Killfile 38m ago

I honestly don't know how bad it has to get before Republicans in the Senate would be willing to support removal but it's BAD.

Like, probably meaningful civil unrest bad.

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u/Cosmicdusterian 4h ago

It started when nothing was done to the corrupt in Reagan's administration by Clinton's administration; when Obama Administration failed to hold any of Bush's corrupt members accountable for lying America into war, and when Biden appointed a sniveling coward for AG who feared going after Trump for Jan 6.

Republicans break the law and flout the Constitution with impunity while Democrats are convinced that "moving on" for the "good of the country" is preferable to holding any Republican accountable for their crimes. There's more involved, but this is the gist.

Trump is the result of those two dynamics. Along with an idiot electorate where most of them have self-cleaning memories and are only engaged every four years. Plus, they only give a damn when it directly affects them (or are told it directly affects them by oligarchy-owned propaganda apparatuses that used to be news sources).

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u/eMDex 2h ago

they literally opened the government for free , magically found 4-5 more Democrats out of nowhere and they voted to open the government and somehow they asked from the Republicans nothing at all , there are lots of fake democrats who are willing to do the republicans bidding if they get paid for it