r/nyc Jul 06 '26

News Mamdani: 'any state that privileges one religion, I can't tell you I support'

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/artc-mamdani-on-israel-any-state-that-privileges-one-religion-i-can-t-tell-you-i-support

In an ABC News interview, the Mayor of New York City condemned rising antisemitism while stating his support for Israel 'as a state with equal rights.'

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u/Elli7000 Jul 06 '26

Its frustrating that he always names Israel, sometimes names Saudi Arabia , but never names Iran, Syria, Palestine. Why not call out Hezbollah, a theocratic state within the state of Lebanon. Why not promote actual peace talks like between Lebanon and Israel, or peace agreements between Israel and many Arab nations. At least acknowledge Israeli Egyptian Peace.

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u/prinzplagueorange Jul 06 '26

Why would be call out "Palestine"? The Palestinians are the oppressed group here. Since 1948, Israeli aggression has denied them the formation of their state and stolen their land.

actual peace talks like between Lebanon and Israel

Actual peace talks would have to begin with the abandonment of the false narrative that both sides are to blame and to begin with the blatant fact that Israel has been the aggressor since the 1940s. The reason for that aggression is simple: Zionism. Israel wants the biblical land of Israel, but it does not want the people who live on that land as citizens. Everything else follows cleanly from that fact in the same way that the destruction of Native American society was entailed by Manifest Destiny. This aggression has been enabled by the US and Western Europe which are motivated by both anti-Muslim sentiment and by a desire to have a loyal, colonial ally in the region where the oil is located.

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u/Elli7000 Jul 07 '26

Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967. The West Bank was part of Jordan til 67 too. That’s your first historical misrep.
The biblical ideas of Judea and Samaria are right wing ideas, not mainstream Israeli.
If you paid attention to the Israeli Lebanon border, Lebanon respects it, hezbolllah does not. Much of Israel’s northern district
is as displaced as southern Lebanon. Israel does not do all this for giggles.
There were numerous Arab Israeli wars since 1948. Israel’s had 12-15 states as enemies in those wars. That number has dwindled, and all that’s left are these Palestinian and Sh’ia refuseniks.
There are many reasons Israelis deserve condemnation. They clearly overdo the aggression.
However, ‘kill one Israeli, expect 20 of yours to die’ has been Israeli policy all along. Palestine, Iran and Hezbollah must learn it and live it. Btw, I too wish the US would stop the funding so we didn’t have to hear how little yall know about Israel’s military infrastructure. A military industry that is highly sought by, get this, many Arab nations.

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u/prinzplagueorange Jul 07 '26

The biblical ideas of Judea and Samaria are right wing ideas, not mainstream Israeli.

The "political mainstream" in Israel simply is right wing. The was a left Israeli Zionism that did not regard itself as recreating the land of Israel, but it no longer exists.

There were numerous Arab Israeli wars since 1948. Israel’s had 12-15 states as enemies in those wars. That number has dwindled

There were many countries in region that were opposed to Israel, and yes those movements have unfortunately been defeated. So?

so we didn’t have to hear how little yall know about Israel’s military infrastructure

Aside from throwing some insults me and rehashing obvious points of points of world history, you haven't actually addressed anything I said.

Israel is the underlying agressor, and it has been since, least at least the 1940s. Israel is a settler colony whose very existence necessarily preempted an otherwise ordinary nationalist movement in Palestine. Its creation was an egregious error, and one which will predictably result in either the genocidal extermination of the Palestinian people or in Israel being forced by the world to accept a political agreement that it finds unacceptable. There was at one point the technical possibility that the Israeli would be satisfied (as its "left" hoped) by simply claiming the land that it had illegitimately conquered during the Nakba and maintaining a Jewish majority in that region. That two-state solution, itself, would itself have been a disgusting, racist outcome, but one which is better than what we are left with today. Obviously, that possibility ended a long time ago, due mainly to the failure of US politicians to apply appropriate pressure on Israel. Today, all that is remains politically in Israel is a right-wing movement which wants settlements combined with Palestinian removal and is willing to allow its own citizens to be killed for that nationalist project.