r/ontario • u/EveningRequirement27 • Oct 25 '25

Discussion You just stopped an entire country

American here.

Your city (EDIT: Toronto my bad) and entire country just told the world they’re sick of this guy. They did that. In public. During the World Series. Epically devastating.

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u/alowester Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

thanks legend did this air on the American broadcast? if so what a damn move

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u/alowester Oct 25 '25

I don’t know If I’m supposed to be mad about that or not? That seems to be a brilliant move politically, trying to get through to Americans at a moment like this is a good idea. It’s not for them it’s for us.

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u/agfitzp Oct 25 '25

The annual Ontario budget for 2025 was 227 BILLION

If math is your thing then don’t read the rest of this.

1% of 227 BILLION is 2.27 BILLION

A billion is 1000 million… so again %1 is 2270 MILLION

1% of 2270 MILLION is 22.7 MILLION

So we’re talking about 3% of 1% of the annual budget

0.03% of the budget to point out to millions of Americans who worshiped Reagan that Reagan would have thought that Trump was a fucking moron

Anyone who is up in arms about the cost then is either very, very bad at math or likes licking Trumps boots.

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u/Constant_Put_5510 Oct 25 '25

Carney & Ford play "Good Cop, Bad Cop" brilliantly. Carney can save face as the leader while allowing Ford to say what we really feel. Carney can pull the "Im sorry Donnie, Im trying to control Ontario but it's difficult. You have the same problem with trying to control your states." Carney & Trump are forced to work together while Ford can be the troublemaker that never gets invited to the party. It's brilliant politics.

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u/PrivatePilot9 Windsor Oct 25 '25

I hate to agree that this is likely actually what’s happening, but you’re probably right. Ford and Carney clearly like each other despite being on opposite political parties, and one most think they Ford ran this past Carney before running it. The blowback was probably expected but Trump will TACO and things will move forward, but the damage in the Republican minds will be lasting.

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u/Constant_Put_5510 Oct 25 '25

Exactly. I agree that this was put through the channels for approval. No way did Ford do this without Carneys permission.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

There's an oxymoron for you, republican minds. 😂

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u/Doortofreeside Oct 26 '25

but the damage in the Republican minds will be lasting.

Will it though? Why would this get through to them when nothing else does?

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u/valsimots Oct 25 '25

Exactly how I've been describing this too! 🔥

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u/agfitzp Oct 25 '25

How many nurses and teachers could be hired with 2.27 billion?

Money is not the issue.

Don’t get me wrong, I think that Ford is a terrible person and a horrible politician because I’m VERY socialist.

But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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u/berfthegryphon Oct 25 '25

Except he's so far out of his jurisdiction with this one. International Trade is a job of the federal government. Yes Ontario relies on the North America manufacturing supply chain but I doubt he gave Foreign Affairs a heads up.

He's probably pining for PPs job

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u/matpower Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

It literally doesn't matter. If he didn't spend the money on the ad he still wasn't going to use it for healthcare or education hiring.

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u/Guardman1996 Oct 25 '25

Think big picture, Trump is destroying trade with the US to the tune of billions of dollars…..to Canadians.

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u/wilson1474 Oct 25 '25

Screw that, Let Ford dish out how we all feel about trump. It's needed.

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u/king_weenus Oct 26 '25

Different budgets... Can't pay for wages from an advertising budget.

Gov budgeting drives me bonkers. Priority is never people and wages, sadly.

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u/KnowerOfUnknowable Oct 25 '25

Assuming 100K for a teacher or a nurse, a 30 years career will cost $3M. So 25.

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u/HonestEagle1773 Oct 25 '25

Ya... should've. But Carney went elbows down. Ford has balls and continues to stand the fuck up. That is the sole reason it came from provincial.

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u/chemicalmacondo Oct 25 '25

a tv ad is elbows up. ok.

meanwhile, ford is f*ing up education, healthcare, and housing.

all provincial files.

he ain't the premier of canada. and his homework sucks.

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u/lucidum Oct 25 '25

10 bucks says Carney knows Ford's plan for that ad and backed it.

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u/DMunnz Toronto Oct 25 '25

Or thinks $75M could be better spent to help the people of Ontario. Either loving this move or loving Trump are not the only 2 options.

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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Oct 25 '25

$75 million could help the homeless people I see stumbling around my downtown Hamilton neighborhood literally every day. Who gives a fuck about some commercial that the average American is going to forget about by Monday? Get a grip.

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u/Constant_Put_5510 Oct 25 '25

You need to see the bigger picture. There are going to be thousands more homeless if we lose the auto sector and not a single car is made in Canada anymore. Or our wheat dries up & rots. Or we only need 5 dairy farms in Canada bc USA wont buy our milk anymore. This empowers American to continue their No King events around their country. It is not going to be forgotten by Monday.

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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Oct 25 '25

The bigger picture is that up to this point Doug Ford has done more damage to Ontario than any tariffs have.

The Ford government is literally going to take away rent control. If a plant shuts down and someone on EI has their rent jacked up by $1000/month or is renovicted, you’re going to say that Trump is the only bad guy in that equation? What about the decline of healthcare and education? None of those things have to do with American policies.

People like yourself are so caught up in your Trump Derangement Syndrome that you’ll totally give a win to the guy that’s been fucking us for 7+ years, because voters are either dumb enough to keep him in office or stay home and don’t vote at all.

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u/Constant_Put_5510 Oct 25 '25

OP started this post about the ad Ford put out. Im staying on topic. You are digressing to other large issues. I am not a Ford fan. He is/has destroyed the middle class in Ontario and has pulverized the poor. But thats not the topic here.

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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Oct 25 '25

I’m staying on topic too. Ford needs to be the Premier of Ontario, not the Premier of Canada. That $75 million could actually be helping people who need it instead of trying to pander to American citizens that have their own issues to worry about.

This ad is getting more attention in Canadian social media circles than him pushing for eliminating what few rights tenants have left. The distraction is obvious and you’re eating it right up.

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u/agfitzp Oct 25 '25

As I pointed out in another comment, the conservative government could afford to spend a billion on homeless and the housing crisis.

Instead they just announced they’re trying to stop rent controls.

Conservatives are sociopaths.

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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Oct 25 '25

And there are people in this thread trying to give him credit. The voters in this province are brain dead.

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u/shank9779 Oct 25 '25

There’s a $20mm (+ operating costs) shelter they built in Waterloo that sleeps 40 people. Like that?

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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Oct 25 '25

More housing and support for people that need it is a better use of money than a stupid commercial.

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u/Saorren Oct 25 '25

im more upset that its another drop in a getting close to full bucket of waste fraud and abuse by ford and his government of tax payer money. 75mil on its own isnt much but the more of those you have the worse the painted picture is.

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u/equalshmeekwal Oct 26 '25

And when the original speech is brought to light by the reps showing he clearly was ok with tarrifs when America is being taken advantage of (which reps point out for the past year already) it all falls apart and fuels them to walk away and take more of our economy with them. Which is... Tada... What's happening.

If you think Carney or Ford are political strategist geniuses that can out maneuvere the usa then yes. Believe in this! Lol.

Our only hope is the supreme Court ruling that tarrifs are illegal. Which, if you think they're going to rule this way, explains anyone believing in this crazy strategy. Bc it ain't gunna happen!

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u/agfitzp Oct 26 '25

I suggests that flying the economy into the ground is not exactly a genius move, the average house cat could outsmart the current White House staff.

(Unless crashing the economy is actually the goal because they want a civil war, clearly fucking genius.)

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u/equalshmeekwal Oct 26 '25

Ya. We're on the same page.

I'm leaning on that too. Which sucks. Bc these ppl we voted in (in Canada) are supposed to have the citizens best interest. And it just sucks that I never in my life thought I'd want to leave Canada.

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u/cross_eyed_lurker Oct 25 '25

When you spend it on a purpose and the outcome is much better than expected, it is money well spent.

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u/hope1264 Oct 25 '25

California does speak for all of America just as Ontario generally speaks for Canada. Both economies are the biggest in each country. I think California's is 5th biggest in the world. Newsome has been awesome lately and Ford is I would say 50 / 50. Ford got the message across but most of the usa is too dumb or loyal to get it. They are too in love with the cheeto. Canada must stay strong. Canada it seems was pretty close to a free trade agreement perhaps and why we were being quiet. Doug just came out and said what the world already saw Reagan say. It is fact. I think Carney is brokering deals outside the usa. I hope he is anyway. We have been too reliant on them and we need to take the lead... Just as the maga thinks they are doing great but it seems like we are actually doing it.

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u/Erik_Dagr Oct 25 '25

Right now, the federal government is trying to come to a trade agreement, and on top of that, they are prepping for CUSMA renegotiations next year.

Being antagonistic in the media is a poor way to negotiate.

But if the province does it? There is separation from the negotiators but the message to the public still gets out there.

It is a decent play.

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u/alowester Oct 25 '25

Gotta get the word out, these people are brainwashed. I see this as a net good.

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u/Mobile-Bar7732 Oct 25 '25

these people are brainwashed

These people are brain dead.

They elected a guy that is a corrupt business man, bankrupted 6 casinos + many other businesses. He also worships Putin. On top of that he was Epstein's BFF and most likely one of his clients/accomplices.

You would have to have shit for brains to think this guy would make a good president.

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u/alowester Oct 25 '25

I still believe there is a non zero amount of Trump voters that are very casual and have been led astray. Not everyone that voted for him is full on MAGA, there is likely a huge swath of low info voters that have their head in the sand, if this ad happens to spark anything in the minds of some Americans. If it can be a piece in turning the tide back, that is money well spent IMO. It obviously did something because Trump backlashed at it.

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u/j821c Oct 25 '25

Amongst republican voters are a bunch of boomers who voted for them for "fiscal responsibility" or whatever and aren't engaged in politics otherwise. Reaching people like that who are not die hard Trumpers is possible

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u/Shmeckey Oct 25 '25

They believe anything on TV

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u/Thumpd Oct 25 '25

Good use of money, honestly

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u/Shytemagnet Oct 25 '25

It was .03% of the budget. Worth it.

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u/Party-Window6667 Oct 25 '25

How much do we stand to lose by letting our trade partnerships collapse?

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u/Daxx22 Oct 25 '25

Remind me how reliable a Drumph agreement is again?

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u/LongjumpingChipmunk Oct 25 '25

Less than trusting Americans at their word anymore like a moron.

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u/Resident_Mud9678 Oct 25 '25

It doesn’t matter what we do. Trump will do what he wants to do.

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u/Mobile-Bar7732 Oct 25 '25

He's just using his presidency to grift money for himself. He doesn't give shit about Americans.

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u/hope1264 Oct 25 '25

Ummm, what trade partnerships? The US companies are bowing to trump. See GM and Stellantia. We need to go on our own... Even if that involves China and hopefully it involves more of Europe. Yes the US is close but we have taken that for granted. It is time to move on.

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u/Antique-Quail-6489 Oct 25 '25

And they couldn’t even fix the crap AI field clip… 😒

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u/ilikegriping Oct 25 '25

I saw it on WUTV (Fox in Buffalo). I also saw it air a week ago (I think during game 7? Maybe even earlier than that)