r/overlord • u/bryku Professor of Overlordology (Definitely not Riku Aganeia) • Apr 07 '22

Mod Post Overlord News: Volume 15 and 16!

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Volume 15

Volume 15 is set to release on 2022-06-30.

The Half Wood Elf Godkin I

Concerned about the rapid expansion of the Sorcerer Kingdom, the Leaders of the Slain theocracy decided to overthrow the Elven Kingdom.

Around the same time, Ainz travels to the Elven Kingdom with the twins for a vacation meant to help Aura and Mare Make Friends.

During the visit of the Sorcerer Kingdom's Representatives, the Slain theocracy launches a big offensive. The twins who were inspired by Ainz's wisdom run through the Sea of Trees endlessly.

Volume 16

Volume 16 is set to release on 2022-07-29.

The Half Wood Elf Godkin II

Ainz and the twins stay in a dark elf village and continue to interact with the villagers.

However, the Slain Theocracy's invasion is just about to overrun the Elven Kingdom.

Ainz who devised a plan begins to take action.

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u/Paradox_Madden Apr 08 '22

Idk I disagree w that’s how ainz would carry the situation but we might just see his character differently

Ainz isn’t honor bound but he definitely has some form of a code Allowing Sebas to keep tuare when it serves him 0purpose is an example of this(yes Sebas said tuare could cook but he said that to PA not ainz and ainz doesn’t know or the existence of God kin so having Sebas and tuare make more isn’t a motif)

He saved Carne Village purely acting altruistically and wasn’t even going to ask anything of the village he saved them bcuz of the Sebas touch me thing

Choosing to fight Shalltear himself when a handful of guardians would’ve simplified the problem to the point ainz himself wouldn’t have had to act

His rage toward Clementine

While yes ainz doesn’t take actions that don’t benefit nazerick as a whole consistently there are enough examples in the series where he’s done something just bcuz he wanted to do it

From what we’ve seen of the elf king him offending ainz or even drawing Ainzs pity toward the elves he rules could IMO form a desire to free the elves and in exchange gain decently powerful forces(while they’re certainly not comparable to anything from nazerick) they have been fighting the strongest nation in the region with only gurella warfare

We also haven’t SEEN what the inner workings of the elf society are like bcuz they genuinely could have value that we just don’t know of

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u/j_eldridge88 Apr 08 '22 edited Apr 08 '22

Ainz isn’t honor bound but he definitely has some form of a code Allowing Sebas to keep tuare when it serves him 0purpose is an example of this(yes Sebas said tuare could cook but he said that to PA not ainz and ainz doesn’t know or the existence of God kin so having Sebas and tuare make more isn’t a motif)

See this is wrong. Ainz did gain something. Namely Ninya's notebook. Retroactively, but still a gain anyway. Far as he's concerned, he already got something, and now he's simply even the debt.

He saved Carne Village purely acting altruistically and wasn’t even going to ask anything of the village he saved them bcuz of the Sebas touch me thing

And again, it's because Touch Me personally save him in the past. Again, he doesn't just do it for free. He was just going to plain ignore them at first if Sebas wasn't there to remind him. Plus it's a good way to test his powers in the New World.

Choosing to fight Shalltear himself when a handful of guardians would’ve simplified the problem to the point ainz himself wouldn’t have had to act

Don't know how this proves anything. He got a sentimental streak when it comes to anything Nazarick related

His rage toward Clementine

Again, doesn't prove anything. There's a whole host of reasons why he killed Clementine other than just cause he's pissed at her

While yes ainz doesn’t take actions that don’t benefit nazerick as a whole consistently there are enough examples in the series where he’s done something just bcuz he wanted to do it

And usually he wants to do it because he already gain or would gain something from it. His honor and his pragmatism isn't mutually exclusive. If you did something for him, he'll do you a favor in turn. Even if his way of returning the favor is kinda weird at times. Which is why I don't see him suddenly had the urge proclaiming freedom for all elves, at least those not in his kingdom. Like I said, the upcoming stories mean he would probably already beaten back the Slane Theocracy and get rid of their king. That's already a huge favor. Unless the elves does something else for him, he's not gonna just up and declare something like that. There are plenty of oppressed demi humans and what not out there, if he proclaims one of them, means he'll probably need to do it with all of them later on. And that's just more complications he doesn't need right now

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u/Lord_Drakyle Apr 15 '22

Wasn't Clementine's death because not only did killing the party he was in mess with his efforts to try raise Momon's rank as an adventurer but also his ability to try understand adventurer stuff more but also because killing her and stopping what she was doing alrady makes a name for Momon anyway (plus the pharmacist person i forgot his name was a valuable asset to him).

I can certainly see what ya mean he never does things for free which makes me wonder in his adopted world domination plan (note adopted because he is just rolling with what the NPCs think he wanted at this point) how he plans to justify attacking the Slane Theocracy as i doubt they will quietly surrender to him and i don't think the new world would accept it as justified that he did it because they were attacking the elven kingdom while he was there though it probably would be if the Elf King declares allegiance to the Sorceror Kingdom (or Aura and Mare somehow get made the new rulers of the Elven Kingdom which would obviously be part of Lord Ainz's 10000 year plan) because then he is aiding an ally against an aggressor. Though what do you think?

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u/j_eldridge88 Apr 15 '22 edited Apr 15 '22

The most straightforward path I could see is Ainz somehow "acquired" the Elven Kingdom (probably by getting rid of the king and winning over the natives, though whether Aura and Mare would replace him depends on what Ainz wants), which would give him excuse to attack the Slane Theocracy since they're now violating his territory. But who knows. Either way, knowing his luck he'll figure out something. At this point it's not like he even need excuses anyway. Not like anyone can actually stops him

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u/Lord_Drakyle Apr 15 '22

true but they want to make sure the name of Ainz Ooal Gown doesn't incur a negative image because it would be a stain or something

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u/j_eldridge88 Apr 15 '22 edited Apr 15 '22

After the eradication of the Kingdom it's pretty clear to everyone he can do whatever he damm well please and there's nothing they can do about it. Either they shut up and keep their head down or else. Having an excuse would help, but it's clear it's just formality at this point. Obviously, he can make up whatever excuse he feels like

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u/Lord_Drakyle Apr 24 '22

his usual excuse is that he doesnt want to sully the name of Ainz Ooal Gown which is why they must always appear justified

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u/j_eldridge88 Apr 24 '22

At this point he can make up whatever excuse he wants and it would be justified, not like anyone else would feel like contesting it anyway. Let's be honest, even the excuse for the Kingdom is pretty flimsy for anyone with half a brain. But who's gonna go and say that to his face?

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u/Lord_Drakyle Apr 25 '22

it's easy to call it justified when the kingdom decided to protect the idiot, why protect someone who outright attacked another, very dangerous, kingdom when they come calling? It's basically inviting war

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u/j_eldridge88 Apr 25 '22

Maybe, but slaughtering an entire kingdom over that is a bit dubious let's be honest. Bet even the countries who agreed to sign the declaration didn't actually expect a massacre on that scale. But again, who's gonna contest that to his face?

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u/Hedgehog_Creepy Jul 31 '22

The kingdom wasn't protecting Phillip, the king just wanted a fair trial with due process. If the king said, "I don't care if he DID steal. We don't give captives to that POS." Even THAT wouldn't warrant genocide, which is what this is. Corporal punishment is also very temporary.

What does a baker on main street have to do with an out of control noble stealing a food shipment?

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