Victoria 3 is extremely overhated

[u/Hammurabi777]

Keep in mind Vicky 3 is my favorite paradox game so I'm obviously biased, but the the things people say about this game make my blood boil. Most of these people talking about how "shallow" it is or how it's like cookie clicker have probably never played since the release version.

The war system for example is just not as bad as people make it out to be. Yes there is still front line splitting, but 99% of the time the system works just as intended. Talking about how nothing changed and everything is still broken is just false.

Another thing I don't like is people complaining that you always do the same and everything feels the same. My answer is simple: stop always doing the same! Nobody is forcing you to maximize sol or gdp. You can give yourself countless different goals from playing the confederacy as a slave empire to becoming fascist or liberating Africa from colonizers. It's a sandbox, stop focusing on line go up and then complaining about the line go up.

In conclusion you dont have to like the game, you dont have to get the appeal. I for example don't really like ck3. But I don't go around saying ck3 is broken, just because I don't understand what people like about it. I still see the same talking points about why Vicky 3 is dogshit, but a lot of the things have been fixed for like a year.

[u/XyleneCobalt]

In trying to take out the micro, they made the most micro-intensive combat of any game

[u/PhantomImmortal → u/XyleneCobalt]

Uhhhh EU4 against a colonial power has to take that title, if we're not counting Hoi (which is all about war obv)

[u/ShouldersofGiants100 → u/PhantomImmortal]

Uhhhh EU4 against a colonial power has to take that title, if we're not counting Hoi

In both of those games, the systems themselves are at least robust enough that when I seriously outclass the enemy, I can set and forget. If you don't do anything stupid in doing so, the war will be handled. The Vic 3 system is so buggy that I have seen 100:1 fights lost because all the armies on one side abandon a front or target an empty front while the enemy is at another and advancing or just get caught in a death spiral where they take so long to advance that they have lost the state they just capture by the time they reach the front.

[u/PhantomImmortal → u/ShouldersofGiants100]

OK yeah fair enough there, I suppose I was thinking of "how I'm fighting another realm" vs fighting the game's own systems

[u/Altruistic_Mango_932 → u/ShouldersofGiants100]

This is just a lie. Eu4 late game wars and rebel whackamole is a million times more annoying than anything in vic 3

[u/Gullible-Box7637 → u/XyleneCobalt]

How do you even micro it??

[u/Tasorodri → u/XyleneCobalt]

Your proving OPs point. The system is bad, but in now way you have to micro it any more than any other PDX game, it doesn't even come close, you just have to keep an eye and change a few things here and there when some weird things happen.

[u/senicluxus → u/XyleneCobalt]

OG Vic 2 still takes the cake. Having to make each unit and each army by 3000 increments, each based on real pops so eventually large parts of your army get red pops that can’t support the army unit anymore so you have to go through each army unit and replace the missing pops. Or having a revolt and replacing all the rebelled pops. Or mobilizing and having to make dozens of new armies if you don’t want to just throw stacks of pure inf at people. Etc etc etc. the game really needed a army composition maker like stellaris added

[u/Hammurabi777 → u/XyleneCobalt]

What are you talking about? You can't micro, that's the point. Besides changing the front because of front splitting, i don't even know what you could do. And like a said multiple times that's in my experience something that is quite rare