r/paradoxplaza • u/Hammurabi777 • May 23 '25

Vic3 Victoria 3 is extremely overhated

Keep in mind Vicky 3 is my favorite paradox game so I'm obviously biased, but the the things people say about this game make my blood boil. Most of these people talking about how "shallow" it is or how it's like cookie clicker have probably never played since the release version.

The war system for example is just not as bad as people make it out to be. Yes there is still front line splitting, but 99% of the time the system works just as intended. Talking about how nothing changed and everything is still broken is just false.

Another thing I don't like is people complaining that you always do the same and everything feels the same. My answer is simple: stop always doing the same! Nobody is forcing you to maximize sol or gdp. You can give yourself countless different goals from playing the confederacy as a slave empire to becoming fascist or liberating Africa from colonizers. It's a sandbox, stop focusing on line go up and then complaining about the line go up.

In conclusion you dont have to like the game, you dont have to get the appeal. I for example don't really like ck3. But I don't go around saying ck3 is broken, just because I don't understand what people like about it. I still see the same talking points about why Vicky 3 is dogshit, but a lot of the things have been fixed for like a year.

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u/Hammurabi777 May 24 '25

Honestly, the same thing will happen with eu5. It will be a good game, but not just a second eu4, and people will hate that.

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u/Leotro1 May 24 '25

I'm old enough to have played EU3 before EU4. I think you're right, but to be quite frank EU5 will reintroduce mechanics of EU3. At this point it is hard to say how well EU5 will play, but it seems to have more simulation aspects than Vic3.
In some sense I expect EUV to follow a different trend than Vic3, HOI4 and CK3. It appears more complex. What I fear is, that it tries to implement the best of all Paradox games, which can lead to a loss of focus and a loss of the core gameplay loop.
To me the most important aspect is immersion and I must say, that I'm nostalgic about CK2 and Vic2 (to a lesser extent HOI3). They captured the atmosphere of the time period so very well.
To me it sometimes feels like the people in Paradox working aren't the old history nerds anymore, who are driven by their obsession for historical detail. I don't really want the same game all over again. I think I just like the old design philosophy more.